Lord Sasuke?

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I don't understand what is such a huge deal. People use Lord for Itachi, Minato, Tobirama, and even Gai now, all the time. But if it's for Sasuke, all hell breaks loose, when it's a canonical fact - Sasuke is the son of the Clan's Leader and the Heir to his legacy and the Clan. The world Lord is appropriate for him.

This selective nonsense is NB being petty, as usual.
 

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Kishi is putting Sasuke in a leadership position and by giving him the title of "lord", he has proven his worth as a respected individual
Kishi didnt give him any title. The translators at viz did. Sama is a honorific, not a title.
I don't understand what is such a huge deal. People use Lord for Itachi, Minato, Tobirama, and even Gai now, all the time. But if it's for Sasuke, all hell breaks loose, when it's a canonical fact - Sasuke is the son of the Clan's Leader and the Heir to his legacy and the Clan. The world Lord is appropriate for him.

This selective nonsense is NB being petty, as usual.
OOps my bad . I guess Sasuke is the lord of the Mighty Uchiha clan, which currently comprises of two people.
 
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You get mad when people express an opinion you don't agree with? Geez, talk about sensitive. First time I've been called a Sasuke fapper though Lol Most of these "fapboys" do it cause they know how it pisses people off. If you guys weren't so sensitive to the whole thing, you wouldn't see it nearly as much but since people like you guys get as butthurt as you do, they keep doing it.

Oh, and it's not "Sasuke fapboys" it's "Lord Sasuke fappers" ;)
Lord Kami-Sama :)
 

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Kishi didnt give him any title. The translators at viz did. Sama is a honorific, not a title.
OOps my bad . I guess Sasuke is the lord of the Mighty Uchiha clan, which currently comprises of two people.
Do you even know why Sama is used? Better brush up on your knowledge. Obito is not a scion, Sasuke is. Get your facts straight.
 

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The better question is; do you?

I didnt say he was did I? I just said the Mighty Uchiha clan currently has only 2 members!
I do, which is why I claimed so. And how exactly is that relevant? He is the scion even given the circumstances, as one is living on extended warranty and only Madara and himself are true rulers given their birth status. Madara obviously will never survive, which leaves Sasuke, the sole heir to the entire Clan's legacy. As I said, get your facts straight. Or better yet, read a bit of real world facts about how and why the term Lord was used in the past.
 

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I do, which is why I claimed so. And how exactly is that relevant? He is the scion even given the circumstances, as one is living on extended warranty and only Madara and himself are true rulers given their birth status. Madara obviously will never survive, which leaves Sasuke, the sole heir to the entire Clan's legacy. As I said, get your facts straight. Or better yet, read a bit of real world facts about how and why the term Lord was used in the past.
Talk about missing the point. There's currently no ****ing Uchiha clan, that was my point. There's just one Uchiha, two if you count Madara( Obito is currently on death's doorsteps)
Aoda was the one who called Sasuke "Sasuke sama". Given that Aoda probably doesnt know who about Sasuke's family and their position in the currently extinct uchiha clan, the sama was simply there as a sign of respect, which makes sense given the master-servant relationship between summons and their summoners. It has nothing to do with Sasuke's heritage.
If you'd so much as bothered to do even a quick google search we wouldn't be having this discussion.
 
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Talk about missing the point. There's currently no ****ing Uchiha clan, that was my point. There's just one Uchiha, two if you count Madara( Obito is currently on death's doorsteps)
Aoda was the one who called Sasuke "Sasuke sama". Given that Aoda probably doesnt know who about Sasuke's family and their position in the currently extinct uchiha clan, the sama was simply there as a sign of respect, which makes sense given the master-servant relationship between summons and their summoners. It has nothing to do with Sasuke's heritage.
Who is talking about Aoda? I am not. I am referring to the use of Lord or Sama with Sasuke in general. The title is never stripped away, regardless of the fact that a family line remains or not. How would you know whether the Summon knows about Sasuke's family or not, given that the Toads have a lot of information on Naruto as well.
 

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So Sasuke is the leader of the extinct Uchiha clan, lets look at the surviving members:

Obito has taken Naruto's side and is dying anyway with only black zetsu keeping him alive so its unlikely that he will work under Sasuke,

Madara stabbed Sasuke and was the leader of the Uchiha clan so I doubt he will take Sasuke's orders,

and the rest of the Uchiha are of course dead and feeding worms.

Not much of a clan. So Sasuke is the lord of nothing but corpses.
 

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Who is talking about Aoda? I am not. I am referring to the use of Lord or Sama with Sasuke in general. The title is never stripped away, regardless of the fact that a family line remains or not. How would you know whether the Summon knows about Sasuke's family or not, given that the Toads have a lot of information on Naruto as well.
Aoda is the only "person" to refer to Sasuke as "sama" though. Haven't seen anyone else do it. Oh and the toads know about Naruto's family because of Jiraiya and Minato. The snakes have no ties to the Uchiha clan.
 

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Aoda is the only "person" to refer to Sasuke as "sama" though. Haven't seen anyone else do it. Oh and the toads know about Naruto's family because of Jiraiya and Minato. The snakes have no ties to the Uchiha clan.
Sasuke left the village long before that and is deemed a traitor by many. People do not have to use the Honorific Lord to make it valid, when contextually it is, given his heritage and his own status within the Clan. The snakes were introduced to Sasuke through Orochimaru as well. Hardly a valid point, as the Toads have no family ties to anyone. They aid anyone who make a contract with them.
 

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I thought Lord had been referred to Hiashi too, as he is the clan leader.

Clan leaders seem to be referred as such. Sasuke would be logically clan leader so he can be a lord, but clan does not exist anymore dunno whose lord he can be.

Anyway i don't care what people refer to characters.
 

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Sasuke left the village long before that and is deemed a traitor by many. People do not have to use the Honorific Lord to make it valid, when contextually it is, given his heritage and his own status within the Clan. The snakes were introduced to Sasuke through Orochimaru as well. Hardly a valid point, as the Toads have no family ties to anyone. They aid anyone who make a contract with them.
That's the part you seem to miss. That the clan is gone. Without a clan to "lord" over, the title is pretty much null and void.
 

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That's the part you seem to miss. That the clan is gone. Without a clan to "lord" over, the title is pretty much null and void.
Go and reread the use of titles in real world. Dear Lord. You just argue for the sake of arguing, don't you? As long as he is alive, he can start the Clan and carries on its name and prestige. Why is that simple fact not getting through to you? Even people who die carry on the titles on their graves and are remembered by them.

Your arguments have no baking behind them, other than the simple fact that you dislike Sasuke and like to argue anyway.
 

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Aoda is the only "person" to refer to Sasuke as "sama" though. Haven't seen anyone else do it. Oh and the toads know about Naruto's family because of Jiraiya and Minato. The snakes have no ties to the Uchiha clan.
When Sasuke joined Sound 4 back in part one, they used this title to address him.
 
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