Logically CES should be useless against Rinnegan

itsxtrayy

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Apr 22, 2015
Messages
705
Reaction score
48
I just realized that Tsunade and Sakura's strength should be useless against Madara and Sasuke or even Nagato. Chakra enhanced strength isn't actual super strength, it's just gathering chakra into one point, then releasing it all at once on impact. Take Sasuke for example, with his eyes, he should see the build-up of chakra into the fist and with his precog block the punch with his hand while using preta path. Logically the chakra released would get absorbed negating their strength completely. If you take away Sakura and Tsunade's strength you drastically limit their offensive arsenal.

Now this should be even easier for Nagato as we saw in his fight with Itachi, Naruto, and Bee he can absorb chakra from anywhere on his body, he absorbed Naruto's rasengan from his shoulder area Sakura and Tsunade's strength should be completely useless against him.
 

FemmeFatale

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 19, 2013
Messages
28,104
Reaction score
2,116
Its Taijutsu, so not. Its like the Gates, The attack is pure force, Madara can't absorb such an attack
Insert Tsuande vs Madara.
The expelled chakra is probably to precise and fast for them to react to



Actually I dont think the chakra leaves , I think it is coverted into physical power
 
Last edited:

Melanin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Apr 10, 2014
Messages
18,927
Reaction score
1,266
Its Taijutsu, so not. Its like the Gates, The attack is pure force, Madara can't absorb such an attack
Insert Tsuande vs Madara.
The expelled chakra is probably to precise and fast for them to react to



Actually I dont think the chakra leaves , I think it is coverted into physical power

Beat me too it.
 

Joon

DalbitEcho
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,681
Reaction score
1,480
Its Taijutsu, so not. Its like the Gates, The attack is pure force, Madara can't absorb such an attack
Insert Tsuande vs Madara.
The expelled chakra is probably to precise and fast for them to react to



Actually I dont think the chakra leaves , I think it is coverted into physical power

But the point is, it is Taijutsu - and a close-range one at that; being physical, Shinra Tensei can deflect it.
 

Netflix and Chill

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 6, 2014
Messages
2,411
Reaction score
226
Its Taijutsu, so not. Its like the Gates, The attack is pure force, Madara can't absorb such an attack
Insert Tsuande vs Madara.
The expelled chakra is probably to precise and fast for them to react to

Sure Tsunade's strong but what gives her punches most of it's DC is the chakra that she releases at the moment of impact. I see no reason why Preta can't absorb that chakra in the same way drastically reducing the power of the punch. This is a last resort though, seeing as it requires getting hit in the 1st place.
 

Pumpkin Ninja

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Oct 31, 2012
Messages
15,554
Reaction score
1,857
They have to absorb all that on impact. It makes no sense. They'll still get hit.
 

Seventh Sama

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Nov 10, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
933
Its Taijutsu, so not. Its like the Gates, The attack is pure force, Madara can't absorb such an attack
Insert Tsuande vs Madara.
The expelled chakra is probably to precise and fast for them to react to



Actually I dont think the chakra leaves , I think it is coverted into physical power
"A fist attack imbued with resolved and chakra" That databook info goes against your argument.
 

BLAZE

Sage of Six Posts 🔮
Immortal
Joined
Apr 4, 2014
Messages
59,497
Reaction score
3,577
they can't absorb the impact
 

ANiMUS

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 1, 2013
Messages
25,124
Reaction score
1,644
Thread already debunked
Y the need though, A glance is enough (genjutsu)
There are plenty of other techniques that a rinnegan user could do that would leave them both powerless.

Tbh, I am pretty sure that if Tsunade tried to punch chidori then she would lose her arm
 

FemmeFatale

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
May 19, 2013
Messages
28,104
Reaction score
2,116
Sure Tsunade's strong but what gives her punches most of it's DC is the chakra that she releases at the moment of impact. I see no reason why Preta can't absorb that chakra in the same way drastically reducing the power of the punch. This is a last resort though, seeing as it requires getting hit in the 1st place.
I think that the chakra control behind the Jutsu makes it to quick and to absorb. Especially in byakugou mode.
"A fist attack imbued with resolved and chakra" That databook info goes against your argument.

The gates uses chakra, yet Kisame coudln't absorb.
My argument stays.
 

Angelic.

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
23,034
Reaction score
1,537
just ask kaguya who was hit by sakura
 

the entire forum

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 17, 2014
Messages
4,608
Reaction score
200
i dont see any point....to use preta agains tsunade

sasuke can just stuck his sword to tsunade's head...
 

Netflix and Chill

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Aug 6, 2014
Messages
2,411
Reaction score
226
I think that the chakra control behind the Jutsu makes it to quick and to absorb. Especially in byakugou mode.

Wouldn't that imply that Tsunade/Sakura's striking speed is faster than the Preta path users reflexes? Out of Nagato, Madara and Sasuke, Nagato has the slowest reflexes and Tsunade nor Sakura's striking speed is faster than his reflexes to activate Preta let alone the other two.
 

Joon

DalbitEcho
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,681
Reaction score
1,480
I think that the chakra control behind the Jutsu makes it to quick and to absorb. Especially in byakugou mode.


The gates uses chakra, yet Kisame coudln't absorb.
My argument stays.

Naw, Eight Gate Users push the air or cause fiction or something which is why Kisame couldn't absorb it.

You must be registered for see images


You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:

A$AP Wap

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jul 29, 2012
Messages
11,047
Reaction score
947
nagato just stops her with his gravity and takes her soul? gg...?
 

Pumpkin Ninja

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Oct 31, 2012
Messages
15,554
Reaction score
1,857
They will still get hit because you have to absorb it all on impact. Doesn't matter though, those two will get wrecked by any rinnegan user without preta path.
 

Zexion~

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Reaction score
862
Pretty sure the chakra remains inside the user, besides its like saying it could counter gentle fist.
 

V h o

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 27, 2013
Messages
16,796
Reaction score
815
Seems unlikely. The barrier version would still get hit by her punch, even assuming it can absorb all the chakra of the punch before the punch connects. Preta path would have to absorb the chakra extremely fast (and i do mean extremely fast) alongside being activated before the punch, for preta path to stop the CES portion.

Only thing that could do it, is preta path absorbing all of their chakra, similarly to how Preta path (Pein) did to SM Naruto's senjutsu. Although it would have to absorb the chakra from the seal also, so that's unlikely.
 

Seventh Sama

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Nov 10, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
933
I think that the chakra control behind the Jutsu makes it to quick and to absorb. Especially in byakugou mode.


The gates uses chakra, yet Kisame coudln't absorb.
My argument stays.
daytime tiger is a just a very fast fist attack it's not chakra. CES on the other hand builds up chakra in the fist and releases it on impact.
 
Top