Little changes to Part 1 Sakura
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Seventh Sama
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Even at the end of the movie apparently spoilers show that Naruto and Hinata have a snowball fight with their kids.Sasuke doesn't even attend Naruto's wedding and there aint no reunion too
The only thing we get in SS is a forehead poke and Sakura dusting furniture.So dismal
superturtle
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superturtle
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I don't honestly know as I've heard horror stories about the filler in the Anime but I've heard of complaints about one director being a Naruto/Sakura shipper and taking liberties even as far as Naruto saying there's a girl I love named Sakura - chan to some fodder filler person. Only anime episodes I watched were of the fight scenes I wanted to see. (Whack a Pain Lol)
Mikasa Hagaromo
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Interesting. Can you pls explain her feelings for Sasuke for those of us who don't understand her character? Her fans always she she's not xyz, but never expand on the points to clear up misconceptions. What is the basis of her love for him? One what basis did it evolve into the deep love Kishi's trying to sell us? I truly want to understand bc I really DO want to like Sakura and respect this pairing. It's just that everytime I try Kishi does some bull.
I watched most of them and Hinata and Sakura really developed as a characters in them and they even got some bad ass moves in fights.If you watch the fillers,its then you begin to realise how much potential these girls had had Kishi actually given SP incharge of them instead of all the shit we got in comparison in the manga.
superturtle
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I only started reading this series after I caught back up with One Piece. I can honestly say I have never seen an author screw the pooch as badly as Kishi did with the original premise. It went from "Work hard and believe in yourself and you can accomplish anything, no matter who you are or where you came from" to "LOL child of prophecy power up power up OHGODRIKKUDENSENNINASSPULLPOWERUP." What the actual **** happened there. The last fight that involved any actual strategy against a big bad was Naruto using all of the shadow clones when Sage mode ran out against Pein.
Ok, if I had to say when Sakura's love for Sasuke started to bloom it would be during the FOD. Rather than seeing the cool Sasuke, that is when she started to see him as he really was. She saw him scared as well as helpless and later she realized that as much as she says that she loves him she is never really able to do anything. (In other words she realized she was all talk) That was when I first saw Sakura be strong. (when she tried to take out Zoku) At that point she decided to stop half-assing. She put forth earnest effort to protect those she loved. When Sasuke woke up she got her first glimpse at the darkness within Sasuke, but rather than running away she ran toward him desperately to bring Sasuke back.
While it worked that time it became abundantly clear to her Sasuke was suffering and when Sasuke left she realized that no matter how much she loved him just like in the FOD just her words were never enough to reach him. However because she loves him she can't turn her back on him knowing that Sasuke was suffering and she is powerless to do anything for him.
So, imo Sakura's love was first shown to be more than infatuation in the FOD. When she started to care about Sasuke as a person
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Actually Kishimoto said the theme of the series is cooperation is key in life or something along those lines. He said that in a old interview
(look it up, Google is you're friend) I don't understand where everyone is getting that work hard BS from Part 1 when clearly Naruto beat most of his fights with the 9 tails chakra which required no hard work. That theme applies to Rock Lee and him only, but for some reason people applied what one character theme was to everyone else in the series Lol just because Naruto was training??? Oh that standard shit is in every Shounen battle manga, if that's the case every battle shounen manga theme is "Work hard and you can be whatever you want! Believe in yourself!" Like no, just stop.
Mikasa Hagaromo
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Thanks for the explanation. I agree with your points about the FOD. I personally think Sakura maintained her love for Sasuke bc the dark Sasuke was not the Sasuke she knew. She never saw the guy who tried to kill her as the 'real' Sasuke, but the Sasuke who was affected by the curse mark and been sucked into darkness. She witnessed his suffering first hand.
For this reason, I'm perfectly ok with her wanting to save him and forgiving him just like Naruto did. I think it's admirable.
Where she loses me and where Kishi failed miserably and I'll never understand how he could drop the ball so ridiculously on this-- is how, when, and why he crush evolved to this supposedly deep, selfless, unconditional love. It's one thing to care for the guy as a teammate and friend, but to "love him so much that it hurts?"....how did that happen?
And Kishi go kick rocks with his "you don't need a reason to love someone" bull shit. That may be the case with family since you're bound by blood. You can dislike them, but still love them bc family is family. But to fall in love with someone and want to marry and have their kids, you need a friggin reason. Is it his inner strength? Does he inspire her? Is it bc he always protected her? Did they ever have a late night talk abot deep issues that opened her eyes to how awesome he is? Did ANYTHING happen to make her say, 'this is the guy for me'?
What is the basis of this so called love?!?
Kishi is a disgrace. I'll never allow myself to become invested in anything he creates again. SMDH
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- Pointless. She studied hard anyway, wouldn't make people care about her any more.
- We know she has a talent for genjutsu, she broke out of an A-Rank one at the start of the Invasion of Konoha.
- No difference.
- She was barely able to heal a fish, never mind heal human's injuries.
- Unrealistic.
XD I can definitely agree with a lot of your argument. Her being so in love with him in part one without even having a good is horrible writing. Kishi could have thrown is some flashbacks or something and how even though sometime had pasted since pt2 of the VOTE Kishi shows no reason for her reverting back to lovesick Sakura. It's like an immediate character shift ignoring almost everything that happened b4
i dislike Sakura a lot but let's play the devil advocate here.
Sakura's love for Sasuke is not just lust, crush, infatuation, stupid, childish whatever...the superficial stuff was only before they were put together in team 7.
once they interacted, she was forced to mature a lot and faster because Sasuke already liked her enough to confessed some nasty shit to her first (he basically trusted her enough which is not a detail, Naruto his best friend was not the first one ok) and when he saw she was strong enough to deal with the insanity inside his own mind, he started loving her for real and she started loving him for real too because she saw the real Sasuke beyond the mask.
her love for Sasuke destroyed her limits and crashed her superficial mind full of insecurities, this immature selfish brat had to deal with someone whom first goal was to kill his own sibling and whom ego was so huge that nobody can possibly reached him anytime soon...but this guy was also broken inside, conflicted, full of love, reliable but too afraid to move on from all the hate etc
how could she not possibly fall in love for someone whom did this to her?
Sasuke destroyed the old her and helped the new her to flourished, exactly like Choji's suffering and pain destroyed him and at the same time, helped him to rebirth himself into a huge stronger butterfly, do you understand this?
that's why she accepted to lie for him, to become a traitor for him, to protect him, to be hurt by him, to suffer for him, to do anything for him even to lose her pride, dignity and honor for him.
without her love for Sasuke, she would have never broke out of her shell, she would have never moved from being a nobody to finally being a somebody.
she would have never done anything in fact because she needed someone like him to understand what it means to be a real ninja: to give it all, to suffer, to endure, to become stronger, to protect, to heal, to sacrifice, to love, to be persistent etc
like Naruto kicked the shit out of Sasuke's mind in the end, Sasuke kicked the shit out of Sakura's mind too.
Sakura's love for Sasuke is not just lust, crush, infatuation, stupid, childish whatever...the superficial stuff was only before they were put together in team 7.
once they interacted, she was forced to mature a lot and faster because Sasuke already liked her enough to confessed some nasty shit to her first (he basically trusted her enough which is not a detail, Naruto his best friend was not the first one ok) and when he saw she was strong enough to deal with the insanity inside his own mind, he started loving her for real and she started loving him for real too because she saw the real Sasuke beyond the mask.
her love for Sasuke destroyed her limits and crashed her superficial mind full of insecurities, this immature selfish brat had to deal with someone whom first goal was to kill his own sibling and whom ego was so huge that nobody can possibly reached him anytime soon...but this guy was also broken inside, conflicted, full of love, reliable but too afraid to move on from all the hate etc
how could she not possibly fall in love for someone whom did this to her?
Sasuke destroyed the old her and helped the new her to flourished, exactly like Choji's suffering and pain destroyed him and at the same time, helped him to rebirth himself into a huge stronger butterfly, do you understand this?
that's why she accepted to lie for him, to become a traitor for him, to protect him, to be hurt by him, to suffer for him, to do anything for him even to lose her pride, dignity and honor for him.
without her love for Sasuke, she would have never broke out of her shell, she would have never moved from being a nobody to finally being a somebody.
she would have never done anything in fact because she needed someone like him to understand what it means to be a real ninja: to give it all, to suffer, to endure, to become stronger, to protect, to heal, to sacrifice, to love, to be persistent etc
like Naruto kicked the shit out of Sasuke's mind in the end, Sasuke kicked the shit out of Sakura's mind too.
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Mikasa Hagaromo
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Great post. I wish the actual story played out the way you described. Maybe Kishi should’ve hired you to try to convey this love business on Sakura’s part ....my responses below in red
well it happened like this except Kishi didn't show it, sasusaku need its own movie =D
how? why? when?
it's love come on, we are not talking about landing in the moon here lol
about Sasuke confessing about his goal, well, he told everybody about it but only Sakura understood it was not a sick joke first so he did it on purpose imo, like "you know nothing about me gurl, move on i'm a bad lonely cowboy" yadayadayada...
stuff à la Han Solo, see what i mean?
Sasuke cared for her, first he was flattered when she explained her goal (he blushed, never happened with any other girls on the manga) when they fought against Gaara he was the only one caring for her and he made Naruto promised to save her, he activated the curse mark and went berserk when he saw her being hurt, he blushed and became jealous of Naruto talking with her etc
read part 1 again, Sasuke never gave a shit about any girl, the only one whom made him blushed many times, smiled, act like a jealous brat and an aggressive wild dog is Sakura.
like i said, Sasuke saved Sakura, he made her become someone valuable as a ninja and she gained real confidence loving him.
Sakura never protected Naruto, she abused him again and again and treated him like a simple piece of shit (that's why i dislike her as a character, Naruto didn't deserve this abusive bro/sis relationship imo even if it was made for comic relief, i never found it funny because of Naruto's horrible past) she saved him once (the cpr stuff) and that's all, she never recognized him before everybody else did because she never really cared about him to begin with.
later, she started to feel guilty about all the shit she put him through, that's why she lied to him (the fake confession) but well again she was the old selfish brat from part 1, the only time she wasn't is when she said to herself that she must do everything to save him and his dream to become hokage.
Sasuke unlocked her inner force because Kishi wanted it to be like this!
Naruto + Sasuke
Sasuke + Sakura
Hinata + Naruto
not my choice, i didn't wrote the manga, it's just like this, some character are the trigger for others and it only works this way =D
the love got heavy because hey Sakura the nobody with a perfect boring family is the exact opposite of Sasuke the unfamous Uchiha survivor and orphan, Kishi loves the idea of complementarity so this is simply why it happened!!!
how? why? when?
it's love come on, we are not talking about landing in the moon here lol
about Sasuke confessing about his goal, well, he told everybody about it but only Sakura understood it was not a sick joke first so he did it on purpose imo, like "you know nothing about me gurl, move on i'm a bad lonely cowboy" yadayadayada...
stuff à la Han Solo, see what i mean?
Sasuke cared for her, first he was flattered when she explained her goal (he blushed, never happened with any other girls on the manga) when they fought against Gaara he was the only one caring for her and he made Naruto promised to save her, he activated the curse mark and went berserk when he saw her being hurt, he blushed and became jealous of Naruto talking with her etc
read part 1 again, Sasuke never gave a shit about any girl, the only one whom made him blushed many times, smiled, act like a jealous brat and an aggressive wild dog is Sakura.
like i said, Sasuke saved Sakura, he made her become someone valuable as a ninja and she gained real confidence loving him.
Sakura never protected Naruto, she abused him again and again and treated him like a simple piece of shit (that's why i dislike her as a character, Naruto didn't deserve this abusive bro/sis relationship imo even if it was made for comic relief, i never found it funny because of Naruto's horrible past) she saved him once (the cpr stuff) and that's all, she never recognized him before everybody else did because she never really cared about him to begin with.
later, she started to feel guilty about all the shit she put him through, that's why she lied to him (the fake confession) but well again she was the old selfish brat from part 1, the only time she wasn't is when she said to herself that she must do everything to save him and his dream to become hokage.
Sasuke unlocked her inner force because Kishi wanted it to be like this!
Naruto + Sasuke
Sasuke + Sakura
Hinata + Naruto
not my choice, i didn't wrote the manga, it's just like this, some character are the trigger for others and it only works this way =D
the love got heavy because hey Sakura the nobody with a perfect boring family is the exact opposite of Sasuke the unfamous Uchiha survivor and orphan, Kishi loves the idea of complementarity so this is simply why it happened!!!
Legendary Saiyan
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Same thing can be said about Naruto
- Iruka gets killed during the Forbidden scroll incident and his final words to Naruto "Congratulations you graduated" then Naruto defeats Mizuki and starts becoming more serious about being a shinobi.
- After that, Naruto starts maturing and realizes about his crush on Sakura. He starts training and lays off a little orange maybe during Chunin Exams. He learns some C-Rank Futon jutsu (some Raiton too)
- Naruto sees Sasuke as a friend still but won't focus on him for a while until he gets stronger.
- Jiraiya trains Naruto more seriously during the 2 in a half journey where Naruto can go on par with Kakashi (without sharingan of course cuz he would be too overpowered)
- Iruka gets killed during the Forbidden scroll incident and his final words to Naruto "Congratulations you graduated" then Naruto defeats Mizuki and starts becoming more serious about being a shinobi.
- After that, Naruto starts maturing and realizes about his crush on Sakura. He starts training and lays off a little orange maybe during Chunin Exams. He learns some C-Rank Futon jutsu (some Raiton too)
- Naruto sees Sasuke as a friend still but won't focus on him for a while until he gets stronger.
- Jiraiya trains Naruto more seriously during the 2 in a half journey where Naruto can go on par with Kakashi (without sharingan of course cuz he would be too overpowered)
