Lili Plays Jedi Mind Tricks with Me

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*Lili and I lounge by the pool at Kirigakure's Steamy Spa. It's a beautiful day for Kiri and we're just kicking back. I turn to Lili.*

Lili Sensei, think we should get some work done and be a little productive today?
 

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Meh.you bring me to a spa to train? You're evil!
 

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Well we were already here but at least it'll mostly be all in our heads so at least our bodies can relax? Beside I'm the one doing all the work you can sit there sipping Pina Coladas the whole time. I did this for you <3
 

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Ah that's good. *goes to the long chairs and asks for a pina colada*

Anywho, Mel, go to the hot spring and walk to the middle. Walk, not dive.
 

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See this is nice.
*Goes to the hot spring and resists the urge to dive in. Walks to the center and awaits instruction.*
 

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See this is nice.
*Goes to the hot spring and resists the urge to dive in. Walks to the center and awaits instruction.*

Now, genjutsu requires 3 things. The first is chakra control. I want you to sit on water, which will require much more chakra control than simply walking, as there are more areas of control.
 

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Chakra control. Makes sense. Let's try it.
*I attempt to sit on the surface of the water in a cross legged position. My feet and legs remain on the surface since I am so used to controlling the chakra there. However my booty constantly starts slipping into the hot water. After several tries and a soaking bikini I start to better control the chakra at various points in my lower body.*
 

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Chakra control. Makes sense. Let's try it.
*I attempt to sit on the surface of the water in a cross legged position. My feet and legs remain on the surface since I am so used to controlling the chakra there. However my booty constantly starts slipping into the hot water. After several tries and a soaking bikini I start to better control the chakra at various points in my lower body.*

Keep your chakra system calm and balance.

*tosses you some weights, causing you to fall into the hot water*

Now do the same, with the weights. They're slightly uneven, which should make it more challenging
 

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*Catches the weights and bum hits the bottom of the pool and I stand up.*

Ow! These are heavy as hell!

*I climb back onto the surface standing getting used to the weight distribution of the uneven weights. Then carefully I try to sit on the surface again with the uneven weights. At first the weight causes me to dip slightly into the water and a little to the left. I keep concentrating my chakra making it strong to push me back to the surface. I then carefully shift some of my chakra from the right side to the left to counterbalance the weight to that I am sitting evenly on the surface.*
 

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*Catches the weights and bum hits the bottom of the pool and I stand up.*

Ow! These are heavy as hell!

*I climb back onto the surface standing getting used to the weight distribution of the uneven weights. Then carefully I try to sit on the surface again with the uneven weights. At first the weight causes me to dip slightly into the water and a little to the left. I keep concentrating my chakra making it strong to push me back to the surface. I then carefully shift some of my chakra from the right side to the left to counterbalance the weight to that I am sitting evenly on the surface.*

Good good. Now, the 3 main assets a shinobi must have to use Genjutsu?

Chakra Control
Brains
Creativity

Ok, so, do you know how Genjutsu works?
 

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Good good. Now, the 3 main assets a shinobi must have to use Genjutsu?

Chakra Control
Brains
Creativity

Ok, so, do you know how Genjutsu works?

The user invades the mind of the target by sending their chakra into the target's brain. They then control the chakra in the target's brain to project an image or situation that feels like reality to the target whether it resembles reality or not.
 

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The user invades the mind of the target by sending their chakra into the target's brain. They then control the chakra in the target's brain to project an image or situation that feels like reality to the target whether it resembles reality or not.

Very nice answer, indeed.

Genjutsus need a medium in order to reach the opponent's brain. Doujutsu use a visual medium. Sound genjutsus use sound, etc. Some Genjutsus simply use Handseals and don't need actual contact in order to be felt (Such as Nirvana Temple.) You can think of different mediums and maybe create jutsus upon them. I believe I innovated by creating a genjutsu that works through scent, with my Marten Summon "Greis", and I further developed it with the perfume CE.

Questions about what it is and how it can be cast?
 

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Not at this moment but smelly genjutsu does sound awesome!
 

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Before we continue, I'm sorry I didn't tell you earlier. Every time you post on this thread, vm me with a link. I know it will flood my profile with links, but this is the way I work. Every time I pass 1 day without replying, re-send the link.
 

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Oh ok if you're sure it wont aggravate you. You know how I feel about asking for training >.<
 

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It really helps me, otherwise I won't remember to search the training section.

Okay now, how can you counter genjutsu?
 

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you can counter genjutsu by calming your chakra and disrupting your chakra, someone else can invade your body with their chakra and break the enemy's hold, and lastly, more traditional and for RP uses you can inflict a good amount of pain on yourself which will normally break the illusion.
 

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you can counter genjutsu by calming your chakra and disrupting your chakra, someone else can invade your body with their chakra and break the enemy's hold, and lastly, more traditional and for RP uses you can inflict a good amount of pain on yourself which will normally break the illusion.

Yep, that's basically it.

If you're under a genjutsu, it means your chakra has been corrupted by your opponent, so you need to disrupt your chakra flow. By doing so, the genjutsu will be over, and you will be snapped back to reality. There are two basic ways of disrupting your chakra flow:

Using Chakra to make it disrupt, which can be done by Kai, which basically forces chakra through your head and then blast outward, to force you out of the genjutsu, or with the help of an ally, which can insert his own chakra onto you and forcefully disrupt your chakra and get you out of the genjutsu.

Using Pain. A sudden and intense pain will force you out of the genjutsu because it will numb or even nullify your senses temporarily. Pain will overpower anything you're feeling, and thus it will snap you out of the genjutsu. This can be done my breaking a bone, piercing a kunai on your flesh, biting the inside of your mouth, etc (You have to be careful not to injure yourself to an extend that you can't fight anymore). Or, of course, having someone else causing you pain, but if you have an ally, it would be better to have him insert chakra in you, instead of injuring you.

Overall, having someone else, an ally, insert chakra onto you will release you out of any genjutsu, apart from Tsukyomi (Because the full effects of the Genjutsu happen in an instance, so there's literally no time for an ally to insert chakra in you). But some jutsu can't be broken by Kai (higher than B), or by pain (Genjutsu that provoke pain themselves can't be broken through pain). There are many other ways of breaking out of a genjutsu, though they aren't open for every ninja, for they need especial abilities. As you fight and gain more experience, you may even find alternative methods that are more suited for your characters.

Overall, Doujutsu users are immune to most genjutsus. Chakra sensors, although not immune, can distinguish what's real and what's not real, and can counter many genjutsu this way. Gathering Natural Energy will snap you out of many if not all genjutsus. Having a Bijuu means, in some cases, a constant ally. You can open the gates, the curse mark, etc and release yourself from the genjutsu through those bursts of chakra. You can even use stronger genjutsus to reverse the effects of weaker genjutsus, such as Itachi reversing Kurenai's genjutsus.


Yesh?
 

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I knew gates could break gen. I even made a thread about it once and someone tried to tell me thats not how gates work -_- but i knew the truth!!! Can I make my bugs send me a burst of chakra since theyre constantly sucking up mine? maybe I should make that a CJ.
 

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I knew gates could break gen. I even made a thread about it once and someone tried to tell me thats not how gates work -_- but i knew the truth!!! Can I make my bugs send me a burst of chakra since theyre constantly sucking up mine? maybe I should make that a CJ.

1 bug no, a mass of bug sending chakra at the same time yes. Something like 15-25 bugs sending chakra at the same time would be enough to break you from most genjutsus, 35-40 just to be sure. No need to make it a cj, I say.
 
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