Lightning With Alternative

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Approved Bio ~

Much Better Bio waiting for approval ~


Zexion Approaches The training ground slowly .. Then waits for his sensei patiently
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
0.o ... no sensei i have never had any previous training in lightning .. im currently in training for wind and fire but that is it
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Alright, so it's good to start somewhere.

Tell me what you know of Lightning Release. More specifically I want you to tell me what the chakra is like when you use it, and how some of the people in Naruto have used Lightning in their fights. Also I'd like you to tell me why you like Lightning Release, and what you like about it.
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
What i know of lightning release.. i know that it is one of the 5 main elements of ninjutsu ... and that it is weak against wind , yet strong against earth. It is part of (for the most part) Jutsu that focus on piercing through defenses or your opponent It is also one of if not the fastest element out of the 5 able to catch your opponent's off guard with its speed..
When using a lightning style ninjutsu the chakra becomes obviously visible, It takes on that of a wild , lightning almost looking like it could hit the caster when used neart to the body.( chidori,raikiri etc)

People have used lightning in their fights and how

Kakashi- his "signature jutsu" if you will is a lightning style is called Raikiri or Lightning blade .. he uses this to deal a devastating blow to enemies usually by piercing them in the heart.

Sasuke- he uses lightning style for multiple things .. one is a move called chidori , which is similar to the lightning blade except sasuke has many variants to it .. Chidori stream, chidori spear,chidori senbon . so on. He also uses chidori to infuse his weapons with lightning style chakra making them much more deadly and gives them a added benefit in piercing through things. one of his most devastating jutsu is Kirin.. an attack as fast as a thunder clap .. it comes from natural lightning however and sasuke uses it to deal a huge lightning strike to his opponent .

3rd Raikage- He mainly uses Lightning style as a sort of armor too defend against attacks AND increase his speed exponentially. Also gives him an added benefit in strength

Although it is not my favorite of the elements it is my second favorite.. I like it due to its piercing properties sort of but i mostly like it for its speed and quickness .. Seeing as im the type of person who would want to have quick-paced battles lightning style would be a preferable choice for me
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
You're pretty much spot on with what Lightning Release is. To put it short, Lightning is the manipulation of chakra where fast vibrations are made pretty much. It's used mostly as killing techniques such as the Chidori, or to boost someone's speed like the Raikage.

You've talked about Wind and Earth, which you are right. Lightning is weak against Wind as it acts as a natural insulator for these techniques, which nullify it. Earth however is weak to Lightning as it's a conductor, and the structure is easily broken up by the lightning.

But what about the other elements? What would happen if you combined Lightning with Water or Fire?
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
You're pretty much spot on with what Lightning Release is. To put it short, Lightning is the manipulation of chakra where fast vibrations are made pretty much. It's used mostly as killing techniques such as the Chidori, or to boost someone's speed like the Raikage.

You've talked about Wind and Earth, which you are right. Lightning is weak against Wind as it acts as a natural insulator for these techniques, which nullify it. Earth however is weak to Lightning as it's a conductor, and the structure is easily broken up by the lightning.

But what about the other elements? What would happen if you combined Lightning with Water or Fire?
You can combine lightning with water to make a element combination attack .. that would deal considerable damaged to your opponent .. If you shoot / use a water jutsu at your opponent then combine it with Lightning style .. the opponent would not only be slammed with the force of impact but get quite an electrical shock ... You can also use this technique if your opponent is either standing on or diving in a body of water .. whereas it would shock him greatly .

Combining Fire and Lightning is more of a complex combination then the others .. If you happened to combine fire and lightning it would be a deadly combo indeed .. The lightning would sort of border the fire so if you were hit by the jutsu .. you would then first bee electrocuted .. then burnt too a crisp .. The jutsu itself would look something like this
[video=youtube;eNHwH0xmot8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNHwH0xmot8[/video]
Skip to 12 seconds please...
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Water and Lightning have a unique relationship with each other as Water acts as a conductor of Lightning. While from an elemental standpoint Lightning is Neutral to Water, using them together increases the power of a Lightning technique if used on or combined with Water. You have to be careful though, if you're standing on the water yourself you might end up shocking yourself along with your enemy.

While that's a viable way of using Fire and Lightning together, it's hard to pull off as you'd need to be able to use them both at the same time which can only be done with Shadow Clones or Kakuzu as shown in your video. One way which is commonly used in Fire/Lightning combinations is the fact that they are both plasmatic elements, and will easily parse through each other. So you could use something of a wall of fire, and use it first. Then you use a Lightning spear type move which pierces through the fire as the true attack. People will think to use Water as a counter, but then not see the Lightning.

Do you have any questions in regards to Lightning in general? If not we'll move onto techniques.
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Ahh true .. My apologies never thought of that .. and the wall of fire idea was brilliant .

And no i believe i know all about Lightning as a whole ... Techniques would be fine sensei
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Alrighty then.

Just as a disclaimer, my style of training is a little different from your standard training. With other teachers you might perform techniques, maybe describe some advantages and disadvantages. My style is more informative, where it's mostly about the theory of using the techniques in battle, possible combinations and so forth. It's a bit boring to describe how you channel chakra all the time so this is done primarily to eliminate that; I wasn't good with it so I don't expect you to be good with it. It's sort of meant to emulate the style of my Sensei, Zero Kelvin so if you're good with that we can start. ^^

(Raiton no Jutsu) - Lightning Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will manipulate their chakra to create small bolts of lightning to attack their target.
This is the first technique we will be using and learning about. It's pretty simple and straight-forward, just shooting bolts of lightning from yout hands or wherever to attack the target. With this technique in your opinion, what's the best way to utilize it in battle, maybe give an example of a combination you might use this technique in.
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Thats fine i completely agree i dread the dull chakra gathering training ...

This would be a handy technique to use when you want to keep the opponent off their toes .. or on the defensive side of battle .. Firing quick successions of bolts would definitely keep the opponent busy and distracted, buying time for me to come up with my own strategy .. it can also be used to counter minor wind style jutsu that opponents throw at me.

An example of a combination i would use is by creating a small body of water with a minor water jutsu one that my opponent is near or standing in .. If he was only near it i would then lure him towards the body of water with more shots from this jutsu .. once he reaches the water i would fire the jutsu then shocking him/her

much like this
[video=youtube;Q2iay5IM8V0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2iay5IM8V0[/video]
[Combination occurs at 4:43]



If you want me to stop posting videos i will XD i just like to showcase the example i'm using
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
I don't mind the posting of videos if it helps you explain what you mean.

Yes, this technique is handy because it doesn't use hand seals, and reaches up to mid range which always helps.

Though one thing I want to point out is that you mentioned it would counter Wind jutsu, whereas it wouldn't really do much to it. Remember that Wind is strong against Lightning, and would nullify the jutsu. If it were an Earth technique, this could defend against it, but not Wind.

Alright, so now that we've covered this, let's move onto the rest of the D-Ranks.

(Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.

(Raiton: Raijingu Sanda) - Lightning Style: Raging Thunder
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user hits the opponent with an electric field shield that covers the users body.

(Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range:Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.

(Ration: Ikazuchi Kashou) - Lightning Release: Thunder Burn
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user fires a wave of lightning bolts at the opponent.
The rest of them, there's not many there and to be honest there's stronger techniques later on which do pretty much the same thing, but as it's needed we'll cover these. I'd like for you to rank these techniques in order of which ones you think are the most useful for you in battle, and why you chose them in that order.
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
1.
(Ration: Ikazuchi Kashou) - Lightning Release: Thunder Burn
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user fires a wave of lightning bolts at the opponent.
This would have to be the one i would utilize to the fullest extent, simply because it seems like it covers the greatest area, and would do the most damage .. the others seem to just simply shock the opponent whereas this one looks as though it would burn them as well . So this could be used as a finisher

2.
(Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range:Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.
This one would be another useful one because it seems like its quick .. and can be used in succession to keep the enemy un-balanced . Even if this misses the explosion should buy me enough time to use another jutsu before he can recover .
3.
(Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.
This one is useful to an extent but it requires more time to use then the others and can be easily avoided by the opponent,

4.
(Raiton: Raijingu Sanda) - Lightning Style: Raging Thunder
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user hits the opponent with an electric field shield that covers the users body.
Honestly this technique seems boring and that partially influenced my decision to put it last, also it seems.. like it just would not do much at all simply covering the opponent with an electric field?
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Okay, that's good enough reasoning since these are rather weak techniques, but in the future I'd like to hear more about why you choose this order. :)

So the next part of this training is simulation in a sense of the word; applying these techniques to situations you might face in the future so I know you have an understanding of the techniques. Basically how it will work is that I will provide situations, or scenarios in which something a normal ninja might do in a battle, and you have to respond to it using a technique of sorts. While this is more informative, it's more to show me what you know of the techniques and how to effectively use them, while also asking you whats best to use in any given situation.

If you understand, we'll continue with it. Though I'd like to ask you of any special abilities you might have so I can tailor this to your needs.
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Absolutely None lol .. Continue however you want man ..

And alright ill delve into a deeper reason why i choose an order next time.
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Alright then.
Sorry for the delay, I kinda have to come up with these scenarios and don't want them to become stale. >_<

A standard shinobi with a slight affinity for water stands mid-range away from you, and launches three small blasts of water at you to defend at.

(Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.


Alright, so with this what I want you to do is provide me with two techniques in regards to this move. The first will be the technique you believe is the best suited for defending against this attack; the second will be the technique you think is least suited for this. Also explain why you chose these two options. You can use any of the Lightning techniques we've talked about for this exercise, not just the previous four.
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Alright the jutsu i believe would work best in this situation would be
(Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.
I believe this would be best suited for the suiton technique because it launches a stream of lightning on the ground.. so it would be able to intercept the waves from the bottom and crash into them stopping their momentum, it may even cut right through the water and continue as an attack towards the opponent ..acting as a defense and an attack.


The one worst suited for this would have to be
(Raiton no Jutsu) - Lightning Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will manipulate their chakra to create small bolts of lightning to attack their target.
Simply because it is on too small of a scale to stop the momentum of the water, hell it may even make the water electric meaning it would cause even more damage if it actually hit me, although it could be used to cause the attacker to lose his attention on the jutsu , this particular jutsu does not need the continuous influence of the caster meaning it would still come at me so basically this technique is useless in this situation
 
Last edited:

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
Okay, so your reasoning is pretty solid, but you will really want to keep in mind of how they're using the move, especially with such a tricky technique which often has multiple ways to use it. Note how I've said I'm using blasts of water, so I'm using them as small projectiles and not as waves like you seem to have interpreted.

In this situation, the best thing to use to counter the projectile base of the technique is by using a projectile itself, especially considering that we're dealing with water. That being said, Thunder Burn or Lightning Technique would be the best example to use as they are also projectiles, and would easily counter the water. Now while your choice isn't the worst technique to use, our RP has a rule where you have to defend a jutsu with a jutsu of your own so in a sense, it's best to assume their technique will hit you regardless of your movement. Your choice I imagine would be ducking underneath the water and then shocking them, which would be good, but you need to take into account the range of the technique.

That being said, I would say the worst technique to use in this situation would be Raging Thunder. The simple idea being that this is a Water technique, and this technique has to come from you since you're creating a field shield around you with your hand, so it traces back and electrocutes you, and we don't want that now. :p


I'd like to play around with you a little more, but I can confidently say you're done with D-Ranks. If you don't have questions, we'll move onto C-Rank Lightning jutsu. :3
 

Zexion~

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
17,100
Kin
21💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Oh shit .. my bad man ..i read the description and saw "create waves of water and i just assumed..." ..

No i really dont have any more questions senpai ..


But let me just say I LOVE ANIMAL CROSSING.. Ive already ordered new leaf .. (But its taking forever too get too my house) But i want too play it badly, they say its an amazing game ..Got rated a 9.6 :D
 

Alternative

Active member
Elite
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,373
Kin
300💸
Kumi
304💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
(Raiton: Jibashi) - Lightning Release: Electromagnetic Murder
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30 (+5 if used in conjunction with a water jutsu)
Description: This jutsu allows the user to create a wave of electricity from the user's hands. This jutsu can vary in power from a small surge to shock an opponent to a powerful stream of lightning capable of ripping through solid rock. It is ideal to use in conjunction with a water jutsu.

This is a stronger version of the Thunder Burn technique essentially, except it's ideally used in conjunction with water techniques so it's a rather simple technique.

(Raiton: Raikyu) - Lightning Release: Lightning Ball
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: By gathering chakra in their hands, the user can create a ball of electrical energy and launch it at the enemy.

This one's a little different, you're creating a ball of lightning in your hands by compressing it using shape manipulation which can be used up to mid-range. Useful in some situations as it's a singular projectile, but not a stream like some other techniques.

(Raiton: Raigeki no Yoroi) - Lightning Release: Lightning Strike Armour
Rank: C
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: The user surrounds themselves with electricity. The intense electric field protects them by electrocuting anyone who comes into contact with it, but only works for one attack.

This is a weaker version of the Raikage's Lightning Strike Armor which is A-Rank, but with a lot less benefits of course. Best used in conjunction with taijutsu for the extra shocking damage against them. Unlike the parent technique there's no speed boosts or anything and only works once a turn. Be careful with this technique when people use water.

(Raiton: Iwa Nadare) - Lightning Style: Stone Avalanche
Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Descripton: By forming hand seals Snake → Upside down Tiger → Hands clapped together and running up a cliff face, the user causes stone and rock above him to become dislodged and rain down past him onto his opponents below by releasing a wave of electrical energy. However, this is extremely location-based and needs to be done uphill of a mountain for it to work.

This is a situational technique, where you can only really use this on cliff faces and other ledges with rocky environments. It's generally not a good technique because of the situation it needs to be used in, not to mention it needs hand seals, but it's up to you to create the situation.

(Raiton: Shuurai Rappa no Jutsu) - Lightning Release: Lightning Strike Horn Technique
Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will raise their hand infront of them like a sword and it will begin glowing a pale yellow before releasing bolts of lightning in the shapt of a horn that spread outwards allowing it to attack multiple targets.

This is really useful. You pretend you're holding the hilt of a sword, creating lightning to come out and erupt to the shape of a large horn, useful for attackng people with clones.
There's a lot more Lightning techniques in C-Rank from when I was taught... :sweat:

This time since the techniques are more useful in a lot of situations and you will be using them a lot more, I've given slight descriptions to how they're used, and possible situations you can use them in. Though this is just from experience, you're better off learning how to use them yourself and develop your own style rather than doing exactly what I've told you.

Okay, so a little different from last time, what I want you to do is go through other jutsu you've learnt which can be lightning, and pair them off with these technique making a combination of something you think could work, along with why you chose this other technique to use with it. Combinations are an essential thing in battles, and perfecting them can be the difference between you winning and losing fights.

If you have questions, don't be afraid to ask.
 
Top