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Alright, so since this is my first time with this sort of thing, go easy on me. :p
Is this your first training session in Lightning or have you had any previous training? If you have please link me to your most recent thread.
 

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No, I have not had any previous training in Lightning. i have training in water,fire, and wind. Lightning is strong against earth and combined with water can be a pretty nasty combo. Against fire lightning is neutral as they are both in a plasma like state. I believe this also covers the part where you ask what lightning is.
 

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It basically covers what the strengths and weaknesses of what Lightning is which is good, but I like to go a little deeper if you don't mind.

Lightning is one of the five basic chakra natures as you know, and like Fire it has a plasmatic state. Also like Fire it's classed as a Yang based element. What Lightning does as an element is release multiple fast-paced vibrations which allows it to be so fast, and why characters like the Raikage use it to augment their own speed.

I like Lightning personally because it's one of the better elements to use in combination with any of the basic five elements. You've mentioned that it's strong against Earth, why is that?
I'd like you to explain to the best of your ability the relationship Lightning holds with the other basic elements.
 

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I like you already sempai. Lightning is strong against earth because it destroys it, breaks it, and sometimes can be conducted through the minerals in the earth. As I said before, when combined with water it creates a deadly combo due to water's conductivity. Say i sent a wave at you, then shot it with a bolt or electrical charge, anything that would touch would get electrocuted as well as feel the force of the water. Lightning can be placed directly behind a fire jutsu, pretty much hiding the lightning. This kind of combo could confuse the opponent as they would be worried about the fire, use a water jutsu on the fire, then the lightning would hit the enemies water possibly damaging them. As for its relationship with wing, I am not sure as I have just started wind training. If there is anything i missed let me know as well as its relationship with wind.
 

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It's nice to hear that. :3
You got the basics down.

Earth is weak against Lightning as the vibrations in the element is capable of breaking down the earthern properties, shredding it up like it were nothing. In this case, Earth can conduct Lightning, and allows it to travel into it to break it.

Water has the unique marriage with Lightning as it's sort of an attraction towards the Water. When used in conjunction with each other, Lightning - even short range techniques can be flowed in a water source or jutsu and extended due to the nature of Water being able to conduct the Lightning.

Using Fire and Lightning together that way is basically quintessential as a combo. Seeing as they are both plasmatic elements, you can use Fire in order to conceal the Lightning as the true attack of sorts. Though as a defense, it's not the best idea to use Lightning to defend against Fire for the same reason.

Wind is considered strong against Lightning as it's a natural insulator of it. While Earth and Water will conduct the Lightning and help it grow stronger, Wind will insulate it in an attempt to disperse it into nothing.

Do you have any questions so far as to Lightning in general?
 

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Alright. ^^
So just as a heads up, my training will be a little different from the normal method where you're asked to perform techniques. I try to take a more informative approach to training, teaching you the theory behind techniques, as well as trying to teach you the best way to use said techniques. That being said, I'll also ask of you your opinions on techniques, favourites, how you'd use them in battle and in certain situations you might come across.

In short, it'll similarly reflect the training style my sensei, Zero Kelvin employs.

But for now we'll start with one technique.

(Raiton no Jutsu) - Lightning Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will manipulate their chakra to create small bolts of lightning to attack their target.
Probably the most basic and most useful of the D-Rank Lightning techniques, with a fairly straight-forward explanation of hoe it's done. Tell me how you'd use this technique in a battle, maybe a combination you'd use this technique in.
 
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Most of my other sensei have a template they use similar to what your description of your method of training. Maybe create your own? Just a suggestion.
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Well, I am geussing you would like to see how I would perform it first.

I would start off by focusing my chakra and concentrating on moulding it into a few small lightning bolts that could stretch out to mid range.

its a pretty basic jutsu as you said so that's all I could think of when describing how to use it. As for some combinations, my go to would probably be using a water jutsu such as the sticky starch water jutsu where the user spews a sticky liquid at and around an opponent. As the opponent would get stuck in the starch, I would fire off a few bolts of lightning that, when hitting the starch would electrify it and cause the opponent extra damage. I'm not sure wether I control the trajectory or if they go in a straight line toward the opponent. If so I would fire them right behind a katon jutsu to hide them in flames, hopefully making the opponent use a water jutsu and electrifying them.
 

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I appreciate the suggestion, but I won't be using a template since it doesn't work for my style of training. ^^

I don't believe you can control the trajectory of the technique at all, so they'd be shot straight basically. But you could aim them at different areas and go from there.
But really we come across a few better techniques later on, I personally wouldn't rely on using this one whatsoever unless you're going for low-level spars with a couple people. But each to their own, you might be able to pick up something useful with this technique and use it at a much higher level.

But yeah your combination is pretty solid, though you'd want to watch out for techniques like those. The technique you're using it with could just as well hit you instead if you're not careful with how you're using it. This goes for all Water based techniques and combining them with Lightning.

Now then, shall we move on?

(Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.

(Raiton: Raijingu Sanda) - Lightning Style: Raging Thunder
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user hits the opponent with an electric field shield that covers the users body.

(Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range:Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.

(Ration: Ikazuchi Kashou) - Lightning Release: Thunder Burn
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user fires a wave of lightning bolts at the opponent.
These are the rest of the D-Rank Lightning techniques. I'd like for you to arrange them in order of how useful you think they are, and explain briefly why you've chosen this order. Additionally, choose one which stands out to you and explain why you like that technique over the others.
 

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1 (Ration: Ikazuchi Kashou) - Lightning Release: Thunder Burn
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user fires a wave of lightning bolts at the opponent.

2 (Raiton: Sandaa Saaburu) - Lightning Style: Thunder Saber
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range:Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: Hits opponent with an electric field shield that explodes and can blow back the enemy.

3 (Raiton: Raikou Oonami) - Lightning Release: Lightning Surge
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will concentrate their chakra and slam their hand on the ground to release a surge of lightning across the ground to the opponents feet to shock them.

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(Raiton: Raijingu Sanda) - Lightning Style: Raging Thunder
Rank: D
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user hits the opponent with an electric field shield that covers the users body.

Number 1 I placed this jutsu here because it requires no hand seals, seems fairly quick, and can be used in combos quite easily as it fires multiple bolts of lightning at the enemy.

Number 2 This jutsu I find useful because of the fact that it will blow the enemy backwards upon impact. It is a field instead of a bolt which I like. Requires no hand seals and seems fairly quick though easily counter able.

Number 3 The act of slamming you're hand on the ground would probably leave you more open to a counter so that is the main reason this jutsu is in the third spot. Though this technique could be used in a variety of ways and in many different combos.

Number 4 This jutsu seems completely useless to me. I don't see myself using this one at all and in the end it is pretty useless.
 

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The best thing about these techniques is that none of them require hand seals, though they are all considerably weak and most of them will generally get stronger variants as we go through higher ranks.

Note the Raging Thunder is done usually through Kenjutsu, but someone could use their hand as well.

Okay, so the next part of my type of training is taking these techniques, and applying them to scenarios you might ever face. The idea of this is to try and generate some sort of application with these techniques and to understand you know how they work. It's also meant to test to know whether you know when to apply specific techniques and so on, one technique although similar to another one may not be the best option. This might range from reacting to certain abilities, to taking the offensive and so on.

Just so I can gear it towards you personally, what abilities do you have on your bios? KG, Hiden etc.
 

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I have an Inuzuka and Byakuya Kuchiki. No special abilities other than I have Inuzuka Techs mastered. As soon as My Bankotsu Hyuga gets approved I will have a byakugan.
 

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Ew, Captain Kuchiki >_<
But regardless, I'd like for you to imagine you're using a standard shinobi, since I don't know much about the man and his dog.

For this one, I'd like for you to give two examples, the first being the jutsu you'd most likely use in the situation at hand because of it's usage. The second should be the jutsu you find the least applicable in the situation, and of course why you chose these techniques to use. They'll be simple scenarios which you'll need to apply this to and will most likely run through the entire training as we go through more techniques.

A standard shinobi unsheathes his katana from his side and holding it in a normal practice which everyone would find natural. He starts charging towards you, recklessly might I add channeling lightning chakra throughout his blade in order to increase the cutting potential. As he approaches close, he raises his katana high above his head, about to use it to chop you down like a guillotine. The man lets out a battlecry of sorts which exerts himself. While the blade is in the air, you're given the slight chance to counterattack with one of the techniques you're learning about.

(Chō Biburāto Raitontō) - Super Vibrating Lightning Release Sword
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A (+15 to kenjutsu and standard attacks)
Description: The user channels their lightning chakra into a blade, increasing its vibrating frequency and giving it more cutting power than standard wind techniques.
You can use anything to augment your own power, ninja tools, freeform or whatever, you just need to explain your actions and backing it up with why you chose them.
 

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I turn to notice you running at me, blade in hand crackling with lightning chakra. My mind immediately starts to race thinking as to why would be doing this. As you are running up to me rising you're blade into the air I channel lightning chakra into my right hand and thrust it forwards, hitting you in the right side with my lightning chakra. As my hand smashes into you, an electrical field covers your entire body, stunning and dropping you to the ground.

For this situation I think I found it appropriate to use the jutsu I picked last in my previous post as I think it would paralyze you as the electric field covers your body. t is also fairly quick and if I am ableto use it in this manner than I find it much more effective than I first thought. If I am wrong let me know.

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As I turn and see you running in my direction with the blade in you're hands crackling from raiton chakra I would channel the exact same type of chakra into my right arm and slam it to the ground as you would go to rise you're blade in the air sending an electrical surge through the earth and towards your feet. As soon as it would hit you you would be electrocuted though it may not be very effective and also leaves you the chance to jump into the air to counter.

I chose this one because I figure the act of slamming your hand on the ground would slow this technique's chances to stop you as you could very quickly juts bring your blade down on me or jump into the air and bring it down with much more force.
 

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Yes very good. Though next time I'd prefer it if you posted the techniques along with what you did, just like you would in a real battle. Since some of these techniques are similar with their field shields, it makes it a hell of a lot easier on me.

The first one, any of the techniques are good for this situation. What you want to note in particular with this is that it's a downward vertical strike charged with Lightning chakra. I would have accepted either Thunder Burn or Raging Thunder, the latter was originally a technique to be used in conjunction with Kenjutsu, so that would have been acceptable.

You're right with the least viable technique to use as well, but I was thinking with a different approach. In the time you crouch down to place your hands on the ground, he's hitting you with his sword, effectively slicing into your brain with the electrified blade and furthermore, killing you which is something you might want to avoid. xD

With that done, I can say you have enough knowledge to posess D-Rank lightning in your arsenal. If you don't have any questions at all, we'll continue onto C-Ranks.
 

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(Raiton: Jibashi) - Lightning Release: Electromagnetic Murder
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30 (+5 if used in conjunction with a water jutsu)
Description: This jutsu allows the user to create a wave of electricity from the user's hands. This jutsu can vary in power from a small surge to shock an opponent to a powerful stream of lightning capable of ripping through solid rock. It is ideal to use in conjunction with a water jutsu.

This is a stronger version of the Thunder Burn technique essentially, except it's ideally used in conjunction with water techniques so it's a rather simple technique.

(Raiton: Raikyu) - Lightning Release: Lightning Ball
Rank: C
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: By gathering chakra in their hands, the user can create a ball of electrical energy and launch it at the enemy.

This one's a little different, you're creating a ball of lightning in your hands by compressing it using shape manipulation which can be used up to mid-range. Useful in some situations as it's a singular projectile, but not a stream like some other techniques.

(Raiton: Raigeki no Yoroi) - Lightning Release: Lightning Strike Armour
Rank: C
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Description: The user surrounds themselves with electricity. The intense electric field protects them by electrocuting anyone who comes into contact with it, but only works for one attack.

This is a weaker version of the Raikage's Lightning Strike Armor which is A-Rank, but with a lot less benefits of course. Best used in conjunction with taijutsu for the extra shocking damage against them. Unlike the parent technique there's no speed boosts or anything and only works once a turn. Be careful with this technique when people use water.

(Raiton: Iwa Nadare) - Lightning Style: Stone Avalanche
Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: 30
Descripton: By forming hand seals Snake → Upside down Tiger → Hands clapped together and running up a cliff face, the user causes stone and rock above him to become dislodged and rain down past him onto his opponents below by releasing a wave of electrical energy. However, this is extremely location-based and needs to be done uphill of a mountain for it to work.

This is a situational technique, where you can only really use this on cliff faces and other ledges with rocky environments. It's generally not a good technique because of the situation it needs to be used in, not to mention it needs hand seals, but it's up to you to create the situation.

(Raiton: Shuurai Rappa no Jutsu) - Lightning Release: Lightning Strike Horn Technique
Rank: C
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will raise their hand infront of them like a sword and it will begin glowing a pale yellow before releasing bolts of lightning in the shapt of a horn that spread outwards allowing it to attack multiple targets.

This is really useful. You pretend you're holding the hilt of a sword, creating lightning to come out and erupt to the shape of a large horn, useful for attackng people with clones.
There's a lot more Lightning techniques in C-Rank from when I was taught... :sweat:

This time since the techniques are more useful in a lot of situations and you will be using them a lot more, I've given slight descriptions to how they're used, and possible situations you can use them in. Though this is just from experience, you're better off learning how to use them yourself and develop your own style rather than doing exactly what I've told you.

Okay, so a little different from last time, what I want you to do is go through other jutsu you've learnt which can be lightning, and pair them off with these technique making a combination of something you think could work, along with why you chose this other technique to use with it. Combinations are an essential thing in battles, and perfecting them can be the difference between you winning and losing fights.

If you have questions, don't be afraid to ask.
 

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1: With the first one, I would combine it with this:
(Suiton: Suiryūben) - Water Style: Water Dragon Whip
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: After performing the Tiger hand seal the user creates an orb of water from which several sharp whips of water emerge. Those whips can then be directed towards one or multiple targets, impaling them on impact.

I would use the Electromagnetic Murder technique to electrify the orb the water jutsu creates, then have the orb form three to four electrified water whips and attack the enemy from long range. If the opponent were to use a earth jutsu the lightning would continue on and attack the enemy, I think.


2: For this one, I would use this if it works:
( Katon: Honoo no Heki ) Fire Release: Flame Wall
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user kneads fire chakra into their forearm and then by swinging their arm in a wave motion they release the fire chakra creating a line of fire that spreads out infront of the user acting as a defensive wall.

I would create the wall of fire as a distraction. Blocking my opponent's view of me so that he could not see me creating the electric projectile. Then with the wall of flames still in between me and my opponent, I would fire the projectile, using the wall of fire to hide it and it would go through the fire, being in a plasma state just as fire is and come out unexpectedly in front of the opponent leaving little time to react.


3: With the lightning armour one, I don't have any taijutsu training and I really see no possible combos I could use it with. As it surrounds my body I can use no water techniques without possibly harming myself. I don't see how any of the other elements could assist this, only taijutsu as you described seems to work.


4: Say I were in Kiri along a cliff side by the ocean and me and an opponent were having a duel. I would run up the cliff side and while running up (say the opponent is standing on the ocean aiming to hit me with some sort of projectile) I would use this technique to cause debris and rocks to fall around his location on the ocean, thus causing an electric surge in the water around him possibly shocking him or paralyzing him. I can't really thin of a technique to combine this one with so I just created a situation or scenario in which I would use it.


5: For the lightning strike horn technique I would combine it with:
( Katon: Gōenkyū ) - Fire Release: Great Blaze Ball
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user after performing two hand seals Horse → Tiger exhales a meteor-sized sphere of fire that carries the enemy away and causes a massive explosion on impact.

OK, I would first create the meteor sized fireball and launch it at the opponent. In doing so, I would be hoping to cause the opponent to use a water technique to try and defend it. As the opponent's water waould form and try to overtae the fireball, I would use this technique and aim the horns directly behind the fireball and launch it towards the enemy. The horn would then connect with the enemy's water and electrocute it possibly harming them if it is close to them. Or simply the fireball would be a distraction in order for me to form the lightning horn as it requires no hand seals and is quickly formed.
 
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