Lightning vs. Flames (kirin vs. Amerasu)

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if amatarasu stopped kirin then itachi would not have used susano

i cant believe you were stupid enough to make this thread after itachi said ''without this i would have died''
 

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if amatarasu stopped kirin then itachi would not have used susano

i cant believe you were stupid enough to make this thread after itachi said ''without this i would have died''
actually it was the help of the amatarasu that help saskue with his kirin after all saskue did said that the black flames provided heat for the thunder clouds to come out. all saskue did was to add additional heat to the sky by using his fire style.soo im guessing that saskue would most likely need more fire jutsu to bring out the clouds and im sure that a ninja wouldnt just watch saskue spit fire balls to the sky.if u dont believe me then u need to read over the manga or watch over that specific episode.
 

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actually it was the help of the amatarasu that help saskue with his kirin after all saskue did said that the black flames provided heat for the thunder clouds to come out. all saskue did was to add additional heat to the sky by using his fire style.soo im guessing that saskue would most likely need more fire jutsu to bring out the clouds and im sure that a ninja wouldnt just watch saskue spit fire balls to the sky.if u dont believe me then u need to read over the manga or watch over that specific episode.
you are very stupid, that has nothing to do with the fact that kirin is better, it is not the concept of the attack or how it is prepared, it is the destruction power and it effectiveness, kirin is impossible to dodge and once it hits you are dead without an ultimate defense, itachi said that without susanoo he would be dead. and i would still like to tell you that kirin is not a ninjutsu
 

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you are very stupid, that has nothing to do with the fact that kirin is better, it is not the concept of the attack or how it is prepared, it is the destruction power and it effectiveness, kirin is impossible to dodge and once it hits you are dead without an ultimate defense, itachi said that without susanoo he would be dead. and i would still like to tell you that kirin is not a ninjutsu
ASS WIPE..without that much amaterasu saskue would have to use more fire style to bring out the thunder clouds..and it was another ninja im sure that ninja wouldn't stand up and watch saskue blow fire in the sky..and if your still not convinced about kirin being a ninjutsu ..go to manga 390(the theme my final jutsu) and u will see that saskue himself said that this is my last jutsu soo if u not believe me goo to that chapter"bout kirin is not a jutsu"ur soo foolish to have said that.thus i can conclude that if saskue were to fight now and used kirin he will have to spit more fire into the sky..and no ninja would stand up and watch saskue do that.
 

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you are very stupid, that has nothing to do with the fact that kirin is better, it is not the concept of the attack or how it is prepared, it is the destruction power and it effectiveness, kirin is impossible to dodge and once it hits you are dead without an ultimate defense, itachi said that without susanoo he would be dead. And i would still like to tell you that kirin is not a ninjutsu
just go to manga 390 and u will se that saskue said it himself.
 

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ninjutsu uses chakra, explain to me how sasuke used kirin if he did not have a any chakra
BRIAN..DID U EVEN READ THE MANGA IF U DID U WOULDNT ASK SUCH FOOLISH QUESTIONS..itachi said to saskue that "the sharingan can see chakra and i know u have not much left to use"saskue replied "hahaa..this is my maybe my final jutsu,a RAITON tech that is beyond all level of raiton manipulating. its impossible to dodge just like amaterasu"saskue then lift up his hand after he uses the chidori(which lter he used to control the lightning) and beam it to the sky where it form a dragon. NOT that normal lightning dont form dragon(which means it was manipulated by something,i dont know maybe chakra)and NOTE again when kakashi was fighting pain kakashi used a chidori of a shape of a dragon.and for THE LAST JUST READ MANGA 390 AND STOP ASKING FOOLISH QUESTIONS.
 

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actually it was the help of the amatarasu that help saskue with his kirin after all saskue did said that the black flames provided heat for the thunder clouds to come out. all saskue did was to add additional heat to the sky by using his fire style.soo im guessing that saskue would most likely need more fire jutsu to bring out the clouds and im sure that a ninja wouldnt just watch saskue spit fire balls to the sky.if u dont believe me then u need to read over the manga or watch over that specific episode.
WTF
no it was zetsu who said that sasuke used his fire jutsu at the sky to change the climat for Kirin

Amatarasu has absolutly nothing to do with Kirin
 

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WTF
no it was zetsu who said that sasuke used his fire jutsu at the sky to change the climat for Kirin

Amatarasu has absolutly nothing to do with Kirin
watch the episode when saskue fought itachi and saskue said that"your black flames have provided me with some heat'which saskue then later put additional heat to the sky by using the fireball jutsu.keep in mind that the black flames were every where around the area where they fought.
 

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watch the episode when saskue fought itachi and saskue said that"your black flames have provided me with some heat'which saskue then later put additional heat to the sky by using the fireball jutsu.keep in mind that the black flames were every where around the area where they fought.
that has nothing to do with the attack, you think that the lightning from the sky is kirin, that is not true, the energy from the sky was just used as a boost for the attack. in that in shows that you do not know what attack is actually kirin
 

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that has nothing to do with the attack, you think that the lightning from the sky is kirin, that is not true, the energy from the sky was just used as a boost for the attack. in that in shows that you do not know what attack is actually kirin
did you READ manga 390
 

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watch the episode when saskue fought itachi and saskue said that"your black flames have provided me with some heat'which saskue then later put additional heat to the sky by using the fireball jutsu.keep in mind that the black flames were every where around the area where they fought.
Dude wth are u talking about sasuke said no such thing and unless u bring me the link as to where he said it and prove he was refering to Kirin he still has said no such thing

Also to "no ninja would let sasuke shoot fireballs at the sky"
This further proves u are bullshitting and no nothing about how sasuke created Kirin
sasuke used the jutsu at an angle knowing that itachi would dodge at first we all thought the jutsu was a normal jutsu then zetsu explains it was actually aimed at the sky not at itachi
 

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Dude wth are u talking about sasuke said no such thing and unless u bring me the link as to where he said it and prove he was refering to Kirin he still has said no such thing

Also to "no ninja would let sasuke shoot fireballs at the sky"
This further proves u are bullshitting and no nothing about how sasuke created Kirin
sasuke used the jutsu at an angle knowing that itachi would dodge at first we all thought the jutsu was a normal jutsu then zetsu explains it was actually aimed at the sky not at itachi
okk.your rite on that one"aiming for the sky thing' and how do you show links and pic.i dont know how to do that.
 

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ninjutsu uses chakra, explain to me how sasuke used kirin if he did not have a any chakra
brian just click here to find out:

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do you see how many times the word "jutsu" was called by saskue and he did had enough chakra to make a chidori to control the lightning.and im sure that wasn't any genjutsu because those are illusions, not taijutsu cause those are close hand to hand combat fighting,..ooh look whats next ninjutsu physical attacks..(the episode when kakuzu said that noo physical attack can harm him and BAM kakashi hits him with the chidori with is lighting,which is a ninjutsu.
 
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Dude wth are u talking about sasuke said no such thing and unless u bring me the link as to where he said it and prove he was refering to Kirin he still has said no such thing

Also to "no ninja would let sasuke shoot fireballs at the sky"
This further proves u are bullshitting and no nothing about how sasuke created Kirin
sasuke used the jutsu at an angle knowing that itachi would dodge at first we all thought the jutsu was a normal jutsu then zetsu explains it was actually aimed at the sky not at itachi
see saskue did use the black flames to his jutsu advantage of making his jutsu happening rite here:
 
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