good question.
Do all projectile lightning techniques have a base speed of 1/3 the speed of lightning? Or only Kirin, being natural lightning?
kirin is fast sasuke's hand is not.Only Kirin probably as it's natural lightning.
More so it's impressive how fast Itachi managed to activate his Susano'o.
Sasuke's command happened before the activation of Susano'o, Itachi wasn't covered in chakra to say the least.kirin is fast sasuke's hand is not.
it's impossible to tell in that scan -_- and it's illogical to assume sick itachi's reaction are that good when the man can't even dodge fuma shuriken.Sasuke's command happened before the activation of Susano'o, Itachi wasn't covered in chakra to say the least.
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simple, plotit's impossible to tell in that scan -_- and it's illogical to assume sick itachi's reaction are that good when the man can't even dodge fuma shuriken.
Wans't kakashi stated to be able to cut a lighting bolt in part 1? so i think it that feat of his holds a little bit of merit.good question.
Real world logic yes, all lightning techs should be at that speed.
Manga logic no. It's only kirin. Kakuzu's tech for example got out sped by kakashi.
It does open up a bigger question. Are elemental techs stronger when the use the actual element as a medium instead of using your chakra to create the medium.
I.e. Kisame's water sharks he spits out his mouth or the ones he forms out of preexisting water?
This is Itachi we're talking about after all I wouldn't except anything less from him.Sasuke's command happened before the activation of Susano'o, Itachi wasn't covered in chakra to say the least.
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I think this is true, and further proven by how it was mentioned at one point how “amazing” tobirama was for being able to do such suiton jutsus without sources of water around, insinuating that a jutsu would be more powerful using the actual “raw” element like kirin didgood question.
Real world logic yes, all lightning techs should be at that speed.
Manga logic no. It's only kirin. Kakuzu's tech for example got out sped by kakashi.
It does open up a bigger question. Are elemental techs stronger when the use the actual element as a medium instead of using your chakra to create the medium.
I.e. Kisame's water sharks he spits out his mouth or the ones he forms out of preexisting water?
So you have no proof that itachi didn't have his susanoo activated but still wanna use the plot excuse. lolsimple, plot
well yeah but if we really hold kakashi to that then his physical speed and reactions would be way higher than they actually are. The only way the hype would hold true is if the "lightning bolt" he cut wasn't natural but shinobi made.Wans't kakashi stated to be able to cut a lighting bolt in part 1? so i think it that feat of his holds a little bit of merit.
I'd have to factor that in more debates.I think this is true, and further proven by how it was mentioned at one point how “amazing” tobirama was for being able to do such suiton jutsus without sources of water around, insinuating that a jutsu would be more powerful using the actual “raw” element like kirin did
Itachi reacted to Sasuke's hand, obviously not Kirin lol.it's impossible to tell in that scan -_- and it's illogical to assume sick itachi's reaction are that good when the man can't even dodge fuma shuriken.
Itachi reacted to Sasuke's hand, obviously not Kirin lol.
I already tried explaining that to these fckboys.kirin is fast sasuke's hand is not.
If Susano'o came out any earlier than the explosion, Zetsu and Sasuke would have seen it. They didn't, so it didn't.Itachi reacted to Sasuke's hand, obviously not Kirin lol.
So in your head, you think a sick, blind, and on the verge of dying Itachi dodged one of the fastest techniques presented in the manga? All based on a ridiculous notion that because Kishimoto didn't incorporate Zetsu, or Sasuke reacting to Susano'o's materialization it didn't happen. You really actually believe Itachi reacting to Kirin makes more sense than Itachi reacting to Sasuke's hand.If Susano'o came out any earlier than the explosion, Zetsu and Sasuke would have seen it. They didn't, so it didn't.
I don’t think so, simply cause if there was an existing water source there would of been even more water to begin withSo you have no proof that itachi didn't have his susanoo activated but still wanna use the plot excuse. lol
well yeah but if we really hold kakashi to that then his physical speed and reactions would be way higher than they actually are. The only way the hype would hold true is if the "lightning bolt" he cut wasn't natural but shinobi made.
I'd have to factor that in more debates.
Another follow up question tho. When Kisame spits out a lake as seen vs team guy.Does kisame get the "preexisting water" benefit.
So in your head, you think a sick, blind, and on the verge of dying Itachi dodged one of the fastest techniques presented in the manga? All based on a ridiculous notion that because Kishimoto didn't incorporate Zetsu, or Sasuke reacting to Susano'o's materialization it didn't happen. You really actually believe Itachi reacting to Kirin makes more sense than Itachi reacting to Sasuke's hand.
Alright lol.
Within the contexts of the manga, he did. Kishimoto's literary technique has no bearing on the facts of the manga.If Susano'o came out any earlier than the explosion, Zetsu and Sasuke would have seen it. They didn't, so it didn't.
The guy makes it seem as if sasuke's or zetsu's eyes are infallible. Zetsu failed to see sasuke use oro substitution until itachi walked over to the corpse sasuke left behind. And the same applies to itachi even tho his ms is superior in tracking movements than sasuke's 3t. But you want me to believe that even tho that slipped past their eyes they're still gonna see itachi put up susanoo.So in your head, you think a sick, blind, and on the verge of dying Itachi dodged one of the fastest techniques presented in the manga? All based on a ridiculous notion that because Kishimoto didn't incorporate Zetsu, or Sasuke reacting to Susano'o's materialization it didn't happen. You really actually believe Itachi reacting to Kirin makes more sense than Itachi reacting to Sasuke's hand.
Alright lol.
So we're saying this water shark(s):I don’t think so, simply cause if there was an existing water source there would of been even more water to begin with