[Discussion] Life after death

[narutolover143]

i believe in life after death because where else would we go other than hell

 

[Multiply]

Personally, if I could sleep eternally I would be happy forever. Sleeping is among my favorite things in the world.

 

[Aim64C]

Do you believe in life after death or not? State your reasons why.

I believe there is... something.

To explain why is a bit complicated. For starters - I have faith that there is. I'm not sure what, exactly, lay beyond (though I believe how we behave in this life does have an affect on how we 'begin' or 'return' to whatever is beyond) - but I do believe something is there... or, more accurately - that we simply 'lose' this life and return to a more basic existence that rests in the background of our current one.

I've had... instances I can't quite explain. From experiences I can only describe as telepathy with a close friend of mine (being able to draw her grandmother's house and neighborhood in Austria... never been there and she never really described it physically - just a 'vision' - like I was viewing one of her childhood memories - but it came up in a discussion of family reunions and how similar our families were... her and I are very similar in terms of thought, though... honestly a little envious of her fiance) - to some just generally weird stuff that grates against my ability to reconcile with known physical sciences.

For example... a few days after my father passed away, I had a weird dream where he and I were trying to install a new sink and counter in the middle of the living room (hey, it sounded like a good idea at the time). In the middle of the dream, I kept trying to tell him "Dad... where I'm from... you're gone - dead..." and he would speak... but it was all noise - static.

One of the most emotional dreams I've had... and one of the most perplexing. Usually, in a dream or hallucination, you are relatively omniscient - information comes without source. I've had dreams with my father in them since, and before... I've never had a dream where I was literally hearing static as a reply from someone.

Now... again - it's open to interpretation. I fully accept that it could have been my mind trying to piece things together and venting chaotic events. ... But I still can't help but wonder if there was some kind of connection to some other existence being made or attempted. I'm torn on how to take the experience. Logically, I cannot disprove that it was all my own mind... but I also cannot overlook the peculiarity of that dream compared to others I've had and the general trend in dreams for the brain to create information rather than to produce complete static.

There's enough there to make me question the "it's all in my head" explanation. But I also know that it's a realm that will... for the foreseeable future, remain shrouded and controversial.

I can completely understand why people would be opposed to the idea of life after death... and perhaps, in a strange way, that's a rather wise perspective to take. This life has its cycle for some reason or as part of some function. Living it in any other way but as if it's the only one you will get may be exactly as it is 'supposed' to be (what functions best in the grand scheme of things). Similar to how silly it would be to try and live your childhood for the idea of retirement. Some things may just be meant to be taken at their face.

All of that aside.... there is one form of life after death that I do absolutely know exists: children... the bits of my genetic material, my knowledge, and my teachings will be passed on to and through them to generations in the future. Through them, my life will continue; and I will treat them with all the care and equip them with every advantage I can, as if the future of my species depended upon it.

That is something I can rest and invest comfortably in.

 

[Ghan]

I see dead people.

 

[vincaocao]

We go to either heaven, or hell.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Yes, after my life ends the lives of others go on...

 

[Cloudbuster]

Yes, after my life ends the lives of others go on...

I'll drink to that.

 

[Kikki]

what i believe is we all have a soul,when we die our soul is release,and after wandering the nether plains for awhile we find our selves a new host body and start life over again

Yeah something like that. I think when we die we lose our consciousness so the part of us that lives on, our energy, is nothing that we truly experience. Or it is a fully different life form that we cannot imagine. I do not believe we just stay. We won't be some floating conscious being without a body that lives in heaven or hell I think. But a part of us continues to exist and might give life to a new body. We wouldn't notice that though.

If death is like sleep, you feel no pain, just nothing, death itself is a calming and nice thought and concept. I do not have to create an afterlife to calm myself down. I can accept becoming nothing and one with the universe.

 

[~Yubel~]

Where there is life, there is death and vice versa, yes i believe in life after death.

 

[Detective L]

Because the concept of Heaven and Hell is to keep the sheep in check.

Ok,Mr Rikerslade,everyone has their own opinion..

 

[Punk Hazard]

Ok,Mr Rikerslade,everyone has their own opinion..

Am I wrong? Were you not told at a young age of the concepts of Hell and Heaven, and that if you did bad things and didn't follow God and argued and disobeyed with the church, you'd go to Hell and suffer, but don't do those things and you'll go to Heaven and prosper? And did those concepts not make you stick to religion and God? Did you ever truly sit down and question these concepts?

 

[Uzamki Seerar]

How the hell can you say it does not exist like it is a fact? fair enought if you are unsure but why do people say it like it is stupid HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW?
Also i belive this life is but a couple of hours not litterally also think about this everything in this universe including the universe in fact will end this computer will go weak the universe will expand to much and will just be destroyed which scientist like to call the big crunch also the quran mentions that in the quran and the big bang.

“And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47)

“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” (Quran 21:30)

 

[Detective L]

Am I wrong? Were you not told at a young age of the concepts of Hell and Heaven, and that if you did bad things and didn't follow God and argued and disobeyed with the church, you'd go to Hell and suffer, but don't do those things and you'll go to Heaven and prosper? And did those concepts not make you stick to religion and God? Did you ever truly sit down and question these concepts?[/

I have questioned,who hasn't?
Everyone is curious to see what will happen,but why not believe something rather than nothing?

 

[YowYan]

Am I wrong? Were you not told at a young age of the concepts of Hell and Heaven, and that if you did bad things and didn't follow God and argued and disobeyed with the church, you'd go to Hell and suffer, but don't do those things and you'll go to Heaven and prosper? And did those concepts not make you stick to religion and God? Did you ever truly sit down and question these concepts?[/

I have questioned,who hasn't?
Everyone is curious to see what will happen,but why not believe something rather than nothing?

There is no point in having 'faith', it's a form of mental illness, a perfect tool to keep people in line.
The primary goal of organised religion was to implement thought that god is something externally. praying, faith, looking up at the sky thanking, associating god with your cultural habits, it's all pure ignorance.

though every religion is full of scientific facts, alchemy, astrology, astrotheology, and enlightening stories, people are too dumb to interpret it right and therefore create organized religion.

So much knowledge and wisdom available and they still find the urge to waste their time trying to prove god exists, praying to god as if it's something externally, and condemning other's while justifiying it with their religion.(gays for example)

 

[Detective L]

There is no point in having 'faith', it's a form of mental illness, a perfect tool to keep people in line.
The primary goal of organised religion was to implement thought that god is something externally. praying, faith, looking up at the sky thanking, associating god with your cultural habits, it's all pure ignorance.

though every religion is full of scientific facts, alchemy, astrology, astrotheology, and enlightening stories, people are too dumb to interpret it right and therefore create organized religion.

So much knowledge and wisdom available and they still find the urge to waste their time trying to prove god exists, praying to god as if it's something externally, and condemning other's while justifiying it with their religion.(gays for example)

Okay,i get what you are saying,but as a christian I have to disagree on some points.People used christianity to their advantage knowing good hearted have faith in God.They misused them by telling them if they do this or pay this,God will punish them,people believed and became ruled by these people.

Faith is an important part in Christianity.Why believe in something if there is no proof? Faith comes in there.I,myself have seen some impossible stuff,that is why I believe...

 

[YowYan]

Okay,i get what you are saying,but as a christian I have to disagree on some points.People used christianity to their advantage knowing good hearted have faith in God.They misused them by telling them if they do this or pay this,God will punish them,people believed and became ruled by these people.

Faith is an important part in Christianity.Why believe in something if there is no proof? Faith comes in there.I,myself have seen some impossible stuff,that is why I believe...

I can see aura's myself, feel and literally see the energy around me. When I was in Spain with a few friends, (2 girls 1 mate), all of us seemed to have weird spiritual experiences, one girl had astral projected, the guy had seen his dead aunt in front of him, and he also told me someone is in our hotel room. Someone related to me. We went to check our hotel room and noticed all the changes that my friend predicted beforehand. A chair shoven to the other side of the room and such. And none of us were the type that pull pranks.

It's all interesting and unexplainable, indeed, but religious people just have to use these experience to back up the existence of their god in answer to the mystique of the universe. That's just too typical and ignorant.

 

[Detective L]

There is no point in having 'faith', it's a form of mental illness, a perfect tool to keep people in line.
The primary goal of organised religion was to implement thought that god is something externally. praying, faith, looking up at the sky thanking, associating god with your cultural habits, it's all pure ignorance.

though every religion is full of scientific facts, alchemy, astrology, astrotheology, and enlightening stories, people are too dumb to interpret it right and therefore create organized religion.

So much knowledge and wisdom available and they still find the urge to waste their time trying to prove god exists, praying to god as if it's something externally, and condemning other's while justifiying it with their religion.(gays for example)

I can see aura's myself, feel and literally see the energy around me. When I was in Spain with a few friends, (2 girls 1 mate), all of us seemed to have weird spiritual experiences, one girl had astral projected, the guy had seen his dead aunt in front of him, and he also told me someone is in our hotel room. Someone related to me. We went to check our hotel room and noticed all the changes that my friend predicted beforehand. A chair shoven to the other side of the room and such. And none of us were the type that pull pranks.

It's all interesting and unexplainable, indeed, but religious people just have to use these experience to back up the existence of their god in answer to the mystique of the universe. That's just too typical and ignorant.

But you get my point,because I get yours.Let us just say there are alot of unexplainable stuff going on,whether its God or another deity/force or something I dont know..no one does.I have faith for my reasons but overall you have a valid argument.

 

[Chakra Wizard]

I have two sides to this question: the religious side and the logical side. As a Christian, I obviously believe in the concept of Heaven and Hell because it makes sense to me. I don't think that I should follow all the moral and legal laws of our world and end up in the same place as someone like Stalin or Hitler (nothingness, purgatory, etc.).

Logically, meaning I disregard those beliefs, I really find it too difficult to believe that human beings, the only species in history capable of logical thinking and the ability to accumulate all this knowledge and use it to better our lives, are given less than a hundred and twenty-two years (current record) to make use of it before vanishing from existence, as if it were for nothing. The concept of stillbirths and miscarriages (or more accurately, death shortly after birth) makes it feel even more logical to me, because that's a child who spent an hour at most as a living, breathing human being, just like we are, and it never even got a chance to make use of all this available knowledge before being dragged back into nothingness. ...That just ain't right to me, I dunnoU_U

 

[Shinobi Train]

I have two sides to this question: the religious side and the logical side. As a Christian, I obviously believe in the concept of Heaven and Hell because it makes sense to me. I don't think that I should follow all the moral and legal laws of our world and end up in the same place as someone like Stalin or Hitler (nothingness, purgatory, etc.).

Logically, meaning I disregard those beliefs, I really find it too difficult to believe that human beings, the only species in history capable of logical thinking and the ability to accumulate all this knowledge and use it to better our lives, are given less than a hundred and twenty-two years (current record) to make use of it before vanishing from existence, as if it were for nothing. The concept of stillbirths and miscarriages (or more accurately, death shortly after birth) makes it feel even more logical to me, because that's a child who spent an hour at most as a living, breathing human being, just like we are, and it never even got a chance to make use of all this available knowledge before being dragged back into nothingness. ...That just ain't right to me, I dunnoU_U

*Jabs you sharply with elbow* Dude, don't be talkin' like that, it actually does make sense, but my explanation would be massively flamed, I'd rather give it over PM if you're interested. ^_^

 

[Chakra Wizard]

*Jabs you sharply with elbow* Dude, don't be talkin' like that, it actually does make sense, but my explanation would be massively flamed, I'd rather give it over PM if you're interested. ^_^

*presses hand against chest* Ouch, dude! It's not like I was denouncing my beliefs, man, jeezxd And technically, any opinion posted on here could be massively flamed, so you shouldn't have to worry about anythingxd