Lets settle this - Raw Sasuke VS Raw Naruto

[lucario14]

Sasuke wins. He takes to the sky via hawk summon and makes it rain kagutsuchi projectiles. Also susanoo can tank frs if it has tanked kirin.

 

[V h o]

Probably Sasuke then. Although if Kurama was never sealed into Naruto, technically Minato and Kushina would be alive. Naruto might have learned FTG and sealing jutsu. Either way this is too theoretical imo.

 

[ShiroT]

obvi sasuke sasuke can still use sussano he can still fight naruto on the other hand now has normal chakra which means two rasen shurikens and if that misses hes dead 2bh the fight would be good but naruto needs chakra hes not that smart without hes over

you do know naruto still has large chakra reserves? and he sm lasts longer now after the pain fight. not to mention if that is he only power-up it would last alot longer due to training

 

[ShiroT]

Frog sound is overated. That is not a game changer as there too many factors to consider, too lazy to explain. Sasuke wins this

not if naruto summons ma and pa or learn ftg

 

[MickNerks]

Naruto would win. Summoning Ma and Pa, would tilt the battle in naruto's favor. Sasuke wouldn't have a summoning since he didn't train with oro to get contract.

 

[King Of Pop]

not if naruto summons ma and pa or learn ftg

summoning them is not instant, he has to do a ritual like jiriaya, and sasuke is not going to give him such time.

 

[ShiroT]

well you must have forgot that without kurama, sm is not possible for him. Nor is that large chakra. Sasuke was born better.

what? he uses sm with HIS chakra not kuramas. go rewatch pain fght

 

[KidGamer65]

SM Naruto w/ Ma and Pa would defeat Sasuke.

 

[Voidstep]

Naruto. MS Sasuke's eyes would eventually expire, and that would be bad for him. He loses his light, and he's ****** especially when facing an opponent of equal ability.

pretty much this
and why make Itachi train Sasky and not make Minato train Nardo!?!?
it's all made up, so don't see why not...

 

[Bronze]

Sasuke comfortably wins it. First of all, Naruto is not countering Amatersu. Even if senses the Chakra build up, he is not dodging it. His speed was outclassed by base Madara, who's slower than the likes of Ay, who needed to activate his V2 to dodge it. Sasuke can get in range and burn him. All of Naruto's Rasengan attacks will be pale to Enton release. It has been seen that Enton takes all over Raaengan by infusing with it and even increasing its power. Susanoo would overpower him easily. Naruto is just another SM Jiraiya without Kurama.​

 

[lanakui8]

Sasuke comfortably wins it. First of all, Naruto is not countering Amatersu. Even if senses the Chakra build up, he is not dodging it. His speed was outclassed by base Madara, who's slower than the likes of Ay, who needed to activate his V2 to dodge it.​

naruto doesn't need to dodge it, he just bunshin feints it or blocks LoS when he senses the technique being built up.

Sasuke can get in range and burn him. All of Naruto's Rasengan attacks will be pale to Enton release. It has been seen that Enton takes all over Raaengan by infusing with it and even increasing its power. Susanoo would overpower him easily. Naruto is just another SM Jiraiya without Kurama.

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MS Sasuke can't even use enton release like EMS Sasuke can, he can't even hit all naruto's rasengans when naruto attacks him with multiple clones, and definitely doesn't have the chakra or stamina to use EMS level enton releases.

Susanoo would get destroyed by a single FRS unless it's V4 which sasuke isn't going to use since it drains his MS chakra so radically and causes blindness.

Naruto is absolutely not = SM Jiraiya w/o Kurama, he's far superior as his firepower completely craps on jiraiyas, he's a perfect sage unlike jiraiya, and he can use far more clones.

summoning them is not instant, he has to do a ritual like jiriaya, and sasuke is not going to give him such time.

starting distance and prep were never stated, plus unlike jiraiya, naruto can use senjutsu chakra to summon them which means

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Sasuke wins. He takes to the sky via hawk summon and makes it rain kagutsuchi projectiles. Also susanoo can tank frs if it has tanked kirin.

MS Sasuke is going to kill himself long before he kills naruto if he's going to be raining Kagsutsuchi projectiles.

Susanoo didn't tank kirin unless your definition of 'tank' is getting completely obliterated. Kirin isn't even much stronger than FRS, and considering how much damage danzou's weaker fuuton could do to Susanoo, Itachi either used a V4 against kirin or kirin is much weaker than FRS.

 

[RomanCyborg]

naruto doesn't need to dodge it, he just bunshin feints it or blocks LoS when he senses the technique being built up.


MS Sasuke can't even use enton release like EMS Sasuke can, he can't even hit all naruto's rasengans when naruto attacks him with multiple clones, and definitely doesn't have the chakra or stamina to use EMS level enton releases.

Susanoo would get destroyed by a single FRS unless it's V4 which sasuke isn't going to use since it drains his MS chakra so radically and causes blindness.

Naruto is absolutely not = SM Jiraiya w/o Kurama, he's far superior as his firepower completely craps on jiraiyas, he's a perfect sage unlike jiraiya, and he can use far more clones.



starting distance and prep were never stated, plus unlike jiraiya, naruto can use senjutsu chakra to summon them which means

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MS Sasuke is going to kill himself long before he kills naruto if he's going to be raining Kagsutsuchi projectiles.

Susanoo didn't tank kirin unless your definition of 'tank' is getting completely obliterated. Kirin isn't even much stronger than FRS, and considering how much damage danzou's weaker fuuton could do to Susanoo, Itachi either used a V4 against kirin or kirin is much weaker than FRS.

I doubt that would knock out a susanoo completely. And rasenshuriken is a more better technique in the field of damage, Kirin is better overall as long as the requirements are set, and for sasuke I doubt it'll be hard. He's more speedy than Naruto. Naruto is only having destructive power here, and that might not be enough to take down a powerful strategist. If there's no ma and ps, I don't see sasuke going down in taijutsu or close ninjutsu.

 

[lanakui8]

I doubt that would knock out a susanoo completely.

Which version of susanoo are you referring to and what evidence are your doubts based on?

And rasenshuriken is a more better technique in the field of damage, Kirin is better overall as long as the requirements are set, and for sasuke I doubt it'll be hard.

are you saying rasenshuriken has a greater AoE than kirin but kirin is a more powerful technique? I highly doubt the AoE part considering how large the bolt of lightning is, and kirin might be 'better' due to it being nigh-unavoidable, but as far as power goes it's not way stronger.

He's more speedy than Naruto. Naruto is only having destructive power here, and that might not be enough to take down a powerful strategist. If there's no ma and ps, I don't see sasuke going down in taijutsu or close ninjutsu.

Since when was MS Sasuke faster than SM Naruto? Also, sasuke's physical abilities take a dip when he's under the negative affects of using his MS (aka using susanoo). The strategist part doesn't mean anything as naruto has intelligence on par with sasuke's own and is very clever himself.
I don't see how ma and pa would affect naruto's taijutsu or his ability to fight with close ninjutsu. Anyways, CQC is suicide for sasuke as he can't even perceive frog katas and his physical strength is tiers below SM Naruto's, he'll end up getting his neck broken by preta path or getting ragdolled like deva path. As far as close range ninjutsu goes sasuke doesn't have anything more powerful than senpou rasengan and he'd get massacred by multiple sm clones.

 

[Tenasa Uchiha]

Sasuke but thats my opinion

 

[lucario14]

MS SASUKE is going to kill himself long before he kills naruto if he's going to be raining Kagsutsuchi projectiles.
Susanoo didn't tank kirin unless your definition of 'tank' is getting completely obliterated. Kirin isn't even much stronger than FRS, and considering how much damage danzou's weaker fuuton could do to Susanoo, Itachi either used a V4 against kirin or kirin is much weaker than FRS.

Kirin destroyed the entire hideout. Frs can't do that.
If susanoo was destroyed then how did itachi survive? How do you know itachi didn't deactivate susanoo after kirin hit? Iirc his health was very low. Frs is not getting passed

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Also sasuke battled with B, battled with A, few samurai, Mei and took attacks from gaara, kankuro, temari, darui, chojuro then battled with danzo, and kakashi before finally succumbing to blindness. Naruto will have to push him very hard.

 

[lanakui8]

Kirin destroyed the entire hideout. Frs can't do that.

if it can't, it would come pretty darn close considering

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when it doesn't turn into a wind sphere.

If susanoo was destroyed then how did itachi survive?

...because kirin used up 99.9% of its power to destroy susanoo, meaning itachi got hit by .1%. figuratively speaking of course.

How do you know itachi didn't deactivate susanoo after kirin hit?

because itachi was slightly damaged by the attack which would be impossible if he deactivated susanoo after kirin hit.

Iirc his health was very low. Frs is not getting passed

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i agree, i highly doubt a single FRS would get passed that. However naruto can throw multiple FRS,

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if naruto is in a really bad mood.

Also sasuke battled with B, battled with A, few samurai, Mei and took attacks from gaara, kankuro, temari, darui, chojuro then battled with danzo, and kakashi before finally succumbing to blindness. Naruto will have to push him very hard.

sure, but you have to remember that Sasuke only was able to use full skeletal after fighting gaara, 'complete susanoo' after fighting danzou, and that huge armored one after fighting kakashi. His skills and abilities with the MS increased through his fights so if he's going to start with fresh eyes, he's going to start with what he showed against bee. Slightly bad vision: ribcage, very bad: giant armored.

 

[Legitbeans]

Sasuke:
Pros:
Susanoo
Amaterasu
Sharingan's ability to analyze movement + illusions+ agility
Intellect

Cons:
Will loose his light if he uses the sharingan too much during battle
Chakara reserves will be depleted after using susanoo+amaterasu for a little while
emo

Naruto:
Pros:
Abilities from the frogs + Jiraiya + Minato
agility from sage mode...matches the perks of the sharingan
Rasenshuriken
Unpredictable

Cons:
dim-witted
will loose chakara more quickly w/o kurama

Everything cancels out. Sage mode=sharingan, Rasenshurikens and techniques from his teachers will let him survive Susanoo and Amaterasu. It all comes down to intelligence vs unpredictability

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

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sasuke.

Simple and clear .

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Sasuke:
Pros:
Susanoo
Amaterasu
Sharingan's ability to analyze movement + illusions+ agility
Intellect

Cons:
Will loose his light if he uses the sharingan too much during battle
Chakara reserves will be depleted after using susanoo+amaterasu for a little while
emo

Naruto:
Pros:
Abilities from the frogs + Jiraiya + Minato
agility from sage mode...matches the perks of the sharingan
Rasenshuriken
Unpredictable

Cons:
dim-witted
will loose chakara more quickly w/o kurama

Everything cancels out. Sage mode=sharingan, Rasenshurikens and techniques from his teachers will let him survive Susanoo and Amaterasu. It all comes down to intelligence vs unpredictability

Naruto has infinite amount of chakra from nature coming in continuously while Sasuke the more he uses his susanoo the faster he runs out of it.
Naruto can fight an intense battle for days while sasuke for only half a day until he goes blind.

They are rather equal in power, but SM Naruto outlasts him so in the end Naruto wins.

 

[lucario14]

if it can't, it would come pretty darn close considering

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when it doesn't turn into a wind sphere.

Kirin could damage kurama too. Also that's not mountain sized. look at top right panel. We see 2 naruto's on the ground. Now look past the crater. There are 3 figures. The width of the crater is smaller than the distance between those two naruto's and those three figures, and that distance is not as big as a mountain.

Btw this crater wasn't even made by frs, it was made when the chibaku tensei fell apart.

...because kirin used up 99.9% of its power to destroy susanoo, meaning itachi got hit by .1%. figuratively speaking of course.

Umm...is there confirmation of this?

because itachi was slightly damaged by the attack which would be impossible if he deactivated susanoo after kirin hit.


i agree, i highly doubt a single FRS would get passed that. However naruto can throw multiple FRS,

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if naruto is in a really bad mood.

I'd imagine itachi would be knocked back but no part of kirin touched him. there are no scars or anything to suggest otherwise. Naruto can throw the oodama rasen shuriken but sasuke can equalize it with his own

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sure, but you have to remember that Sasuke only was able to use full skeletal after fighting gaara, 'complete susanoo' after fighting danzou, and that huge armored one after fighting kakashi. His skills and abilities with the MS increased through his fights so if he's going to start with fresh eyes, he's going to start with what he showed against bee. Slightly bad vision: ribcage, very bad: giant armored.

Good point. Then I guess he won't be fighting for very long if he has maxed out his ms fighting prowess. Sasuke will have to take naruto out quickly, which I don't doubt he can do.