Lets measure Intelligence.

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Ok.
I will add this is not a versus Thread.

1.) Itachi Uchiha:
We've seen how Hiruzen said, "he had a mind of an Hokage at age 7"
So, at the age of 7 he planned his whole life, at that moment.
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His Goals:
1.) He saved the leaf village against the, Uchiha clan. Keep in mind only Hiruzen & Danzo were the only strongest in the village. Also, against many Uchiha, who can copy Jutsus.
With Shisui & Itachi with the Uchiha.
2.) He saved his brother to, save the leaf village.
3.) He saved the world against Edo tensei. He was the only one that could stop Kabuto.
4.) acquiring Totsuka blade & Yata mirror.
Also Itachi has God items. Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror. Which was once said by Zetsu (who was made out of nothing but Senju cells, & made by Madara Uchiha(so in my point of view he's seen everything Madara can do, except Full Susano'o).

He was spying on the Akatsuki.
So he knows Alot of weaknesses, to counteract Akatsuki members.

We haven't seen him defeated.(That's why some people call him the solo king).

2.) Madara Uchiha:
He was the first one to acquire EMS.
&
Rennigan.

He brought Back Juubi, the same one that was sealed by So6P.
& Kinda defeated Hashirama I guess.

Also, no one has matched his Edo'ed form.
He has made an impressive plan, that is kinda succeeding.

3.)Tobirama:
I hate to say it but he is very intelligent.

Disregarding his attitude, he is a great learner.
To mostly be the only one to learn almost everything of the Uchiha clan.
Being the only one not to trust Madara, out of Instinct he was still correct about him.

He created Edo tensei.
While being the first to create space time ninjutsu. (I think he did)
But a very skilled ninja indeed!!

3.)Hashirama:
I would put second for him but, he's kinda just a strong ninja & knows Alot of sealing techniques.
Also, he defeated Madara Uchiha.
I would kinda say he planed to marry an Uzamaki.
& acquired all of her sealing techniques.

He made a treaty with Madara to save him but ( Ohh Madara) he didn't as we all know.

4.)Orochimaru:
Very close to or might actually be in ranks with the 1st & 2nd kages.
He gained so much skill over the years & I wished he acquired sage mode to.
That would make him very strong & a challenging opponent.

He finally succeeded with, Sasuke in not making him follow by his foot steps.
He waged war on the leaf village. & I kinda guess he would've succeeded, if Gaara was still in Shikaku mode & he didn't retreat.

He has Alot of accomplishing moments that its to much to name, but defeating Itachi isn't one (Ooooo lol), I'm just kidding.

5.)Minato:
He was very skilled, but with normal skills, kinda.
You have to agree that he wasn't a Special character, well Never mind he is.
He is a mixture of Hashirama & Tobirama.
Except if he had sage mode, he would be a higher rank in my mind.

He has goals.
Really two no offense, but you have to accept the truth.
Maybe, if he was alive he would've accomplished more.

His Goals:
1.) defeated Obito a very skilled ninja at that time period.
2.) saved the leaf village from the nine tailed fox while defeating Obito.
3.) while sealing half of the nine tailed fox.

But we all know he could've saved him self & naruto & Kushina.

6.)Hiruzen:
He knew almost every Jutsu from the previous Kages.
He also took on three Kage level Shinobis & sealed two.

Also including he was very old & able to move that fast.

Well that's all I can think of.
I'm including characters that had a big roll in the story line.
Not Fodders.
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shikimaru intelligence is lateral, he use of intelligence stems from his only jutsu being shadow possession and needing to be strategic.

Anyway, Orochimaru's intelligence exceeds all by a far, but his battle strategy has yet to rrally been shown.
 

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where is shikamaru
Fodder!
No Shikamaru or Shikaku and we are speaking of intelligence?
That's odd.
Fodder!
Shikamaru should be in there. Hashirama shouldn't be that high really.
Fodder!, & Hashirama isn't foolish.
Where are Shikamaru, Shikaku and Tsunade?
I was going to add tsunade for being the Most in intelligent female ninja.
Other, Fodders!
 

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Fodder!

Fodder!

Fodder!, & Hashirama isn't foolish.

I was going to add tsunade for being the Most in intelligent female ninja.
Other, Fodders!
What a fodder? Shinobis does not have to be top 20 material not to be a fodder; besides intelligence does not have anything to do with opness of techs.
Shikamaru does not even have 1/10000 of the powerful techs the others have; he is using what he has the smartest possible ways; Shikaku aswell and they both have shown great strategic skills...
 

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What a fodder? Shinobis does not have to be top 20 material not to be a fodder; besides intelligence does not have anything to do with opness of techs.
Shikamaru does not even have 1/10000 of the powerful techs the others have; he is using what he has the smartest possible ways; Shikaku aswell and they both have shown great strategic skills...

But....
Intelligence Dosent defeat everything, you have to have strength to back it up.
Shikamaru is smart but , when fighting temari , he could've easily won by fear(like Itachi Does).
& they are smart but not as smart as the ones I named.
If you say shikamaru& Shikaku, then you say those should be hokages.
& they were able to do those things that everyone, I named & you doubted.
 

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where is obito?

fail.
 

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But....
Intelligence Dosent defeat everything, you have to have strength to back it up.
Shikamaru is smart but , when fighting temari , he could've easily won by fear(like Itachi Does).
& they are smart but not as smart as the ones I named.
If you say shikamaru& Shikaku, then you say those should be hokages.
& they were able to do those things that everyone, I named & you doubted.

Yes intelligence does not defeat anything; but we are talking about pure intelligence; for example if we are talking about taijutsu skills; we would say Lee instead of... i don't know Gaara; we just can't say "but his taijutsu is not enough for him; Gaara has ninjutsu to back it up, so Gaara>Lee" in such list.
Intelligence list is about just and only intelligence itself; not the powers to back it up.
 

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Kakashi, Kabuto and Sasori are smarter than the majority of your list.
 

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Obito's not smart!


Fail!

you're an idiot.

He fooled the entire world that he was madara.

He soloed Be, Gai, Kakashi and naruto at the same time using strategy and battle tactics.

He started a war by himself.

Dude give me a break.
 

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Yes intelligence does not defeat anything; but we are talking about pure intelligence; for example if we are talking about taijutsu skills; we would say Lee instead of... i don't know Gaara; we just can't say "but his taijutsu is not enough for him; Gaara has ninjutsu to back it up, so Gaara>Lee" in such list.
Intelligence list is about just and only intelligence itself; not the powers to back it up.
Before hand, now I think rock lee can wreck Gaara.
Yes very true, but I haven't seen Shikamaru go as much as those characters, have sacrificeing them selves, leading villages,
Going against such strong opponents.
Let me insist an example, Itaci vs Kabuto, Two very smart Shinobis.
I don't think Itachi would've let his brother that was alive be killed, that's why he was caught in so many threating situations.
But if it was a one on one battle, Itachi would've won, threw intelligence.
More or less, since the greater mind knows it's goal (Itachi) Vs A mind that can't grasp the concept of to not repeat the cycle (Kabuto).
I'm not saying your going against Itachi Uchiha.
I'm just saying he would win that match out of quick wits, reflexs , & Strategys.

I'm just trying to get my point across of how I think of those certain characters.

& also, the definition of "intelligence", is the ability to acquire & apply knowledge & skills.
Which Is mainly why Itachi never resorted to Susano'o right away in a battle.
 

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Before hand, now I think rock lee can wreck Gaara.
Yes very true, but I haven't seen Shikamaru go as much as those characters, have sacrificeing them selves, leading villages,
Going against such strong opponents.
Let me insist an example, Itaci vs Kabuto, Two very smart Shinobis.
I don't think Itachi would've let his brother that was alive be killed, that's why he was caught in so many threating situations.
But if it was a one on one battle, Itachi would've won, threw intelligence.
More or less, since the greater mind knows it's goal (Itachi) Vs A mind that can't grasp the concept of to not repeat the cycle (Kabuto).
I'm not saying your going against Itachi Uchiha.
I'm just saying he would win that match out of quick wits, reflexs , & Strategys.

I'm just trying to get my point across of how I think of those certain characters.

& also, the definition of "intelligence", is the ability to acquire & apply knowledge & skills.
Which Is mainly why Itachi never resorted to Susano'o right away in a battle.

But Shika-kinds are more than battle skills; they are acquiring & applying knowledge and skills; also Shikaku was smart enough to make a battle stratgey for 5 nations; whom he does not know much about their abilities; and Shikamaru made a plan against Temari; someone who has much more powerful attacks and defences than him and he won the "battle"(not the match), with prep he took down a S-rank criminal and an Akatsuki; he solved hid techs' secrets and he harmed the other opponent (Kakuzu) by taking those techs in the advantage; those are much more stretegic and intelligent acts than "i should not use my Susanoo for now, i should restore it"
They are not power-houses or wielder of haxxed techs; but their intelligence is high enough to make them outsmart their opponents; even lead others to succes.
 

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you're an idiot.

He fooled the entire world that he was madara.

He soloed Be, Gai, Kakashi and naruto at the same time using strategy and battle tactics.

He started a war by himself.

Dude give me a break.

Really, I'm an "Idiot"

He tricked everyone in the world to fear him & that failed, because as I see it no ones scared to fight him.
Even including the juubi & Madara Uchiha.

Really he started the war?!

Because, as I see it he never knew about Yamato & him being related to the first Hokage.
He Didnt know the Jutsu "Edo'Tensei".

He Didnt solo Bee*, Gai, Kakashi,Or Naruto.
He had seven jinjurikis with him.
Soooo..
Lets see, Solo; a thing done by one person unaccompanied, In particular.

Soo.. I don't see how Seven adds up to One.
Because, I passed, elementary school, high school, & college.
So I don't see how that adds up.

Oh, & one more thing, he's going against the whole Naruto universe & He still hasn't gotten far.
We all ask the same reason.
Why Obito?

Simply, because of a death from a girl he loved.
You know how many people, close to them die in the ninja world.
For example (Kurenai) & we don't see, a war on the NV, From her.

No offense but that's childish & foolish.

So "Dude give me a Break" before you come up with such none sense.
 

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But Shika-kinds are more than battle skills; they are acquiring & applying knowledge and skills; also Shikaku was smart enough to make a battle stratgey for 5 nations; whom he does not know much about their abilities; and Shikamaru made a plan against Temari; someone who has much more powerful attacks and defences than him and he won the "battle"(not the match), with prep he took down a S-rank criminal and an Akatsuki; he solved hid techs' secrets and he harmed the other opponent (Kakuzu) by taking those techs in the advantage; those are much more stretegic and intelligent acts than "i should not use my Susanoo for now, i should restore it"
They are not power-houses or wielder of haxxed techs; but their intelligence is high enough to make them outsmart their opponents; even lead others to succes.

That may be true; but if it was Shikamaru & Kakazu, I think he would've lost.
Also, he would've lost to temari, If he Didnt forfeit, & if he would've took risks like Naruto he might've succeeded with that battle.

More the less, Shikaku did lead them , but with some help.
While on the other hand, Itachi had to do everything himself his whole life.
& when the end came he was willing to sacrifice everything.

Just like batman, his son was killed many of times through out the comic series, also, superman.
But superman, went psycho.
While batman never lost his cool.
He uses most of all his gadgets & still win. & that might've happen with Shikamaru if he Didnt forfeit that match.
 
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