Let's get something straight.

['Toxic]

You said: Pain>Obito

I say "B*tch please" and dislike your thread.

I didn't have to read more, even if I like Nagato, in the condition he is/was, he would get pawn by madara and Obito.

 

[OnPoint]

He did show it, a much weaker binding version, what was stopping him from expanding a few branches on it to pierce Naruto?

Growing a piece of wood from your arm isn't Mokuton Sashiki. It's just using basic Wood Release.

Obito......"waste" "chakra"? The guy who spams Kamui constantly?

I gave you canon. They said it would be foolish for Obito to waste chakra on something like that, and he promptly agreed.

And then he used it on the alliance AND Naruto the moment he had free reign over the Juubi.

Sorry but you're not making much sense anymore.

To teach them despair and kill as many numbers as possible. This was when Naruto's Bijuu Mode had run out, which agrees with my point about him being reluctant to use it with mountain busting powers on display.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Growing a piece of wood from your arm isn't Mokuton Sashiki. It's just using basic Wood Release.



I gave you canon. They said it would be foolish for Obito to waste chakra on something like that, and he promptly agreed.



To teach them despair and kill as many numbers as possible. This was when Naruto's Bijuu Mode had run out, which agrees with my point about him being reluctant to use it with mountain busting powers on display.

Now you're comparing a low level Mokuton jutsu to the Six Path's jutsu being used on Jinchuuriki. I can't take this seriously any more.

@bold What does that even mean?

 

[Truemadara]

Now why didn't I think of this? This^

Its because this theory waznt thought of until kakashi figured him out...but seeing how everyone he used to warp in his dimension either A: didn't have connected vision or B: didn't have kamui to even get the idea its like kishi perfectly foreshadowed his weakness by determining his opponents...warping a pain is the worst idea for him 2 do. But there's no other way for him to win so its like he loses either way.

Its like when sage mode naruto caught one of the paths in the frogs mouth..she didn't move...that's really all you need to do to make sure you spot obito phasing. Its the main reason he never fought a rennigan user

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

@Noddy

Read post #80 That seals the deal and Pain's victory.

 

[OnPoint]

Now you're comparing a low level Mokuton jutsu to the Six Path's jutsu being used on Jinchuuriki. I can't take this seriously any more.

@bold What does that even mean?

Right, so you'd use a Jutsu you can spam if it makes no sense to do so? lol. Why would Obito waste chakra just because he can? That is a laughable claim, because Mokuton Sashiki would've been useless against Bijuu Mode Naruto (who can casually destroy mountains). You asked me why he didn't use it against Bijuu Mode Naruto. I told you it was because Naruto could easily destroy it and Obito wouldn't foolishly waste chakra, which is canon. You then said he used it against the alliance, which was actually when Naruto's Bijuu Mode had run out and he had no mountain busting abilities. So it coincides with the idea that Obito wouldn't use Mokuton Sashiki when he knows Naruto has the power to destroy it. This is obvious stuff.

Post 80 doesn't seal anything. If you're talking about a canon fight, then Obito would just warp to Nagato and finish him there. Obito doesn't need to fight the 6 paths because he knows the secret. The scenario was hypothetical in the sense that Obito would have no choice and would have to fight the 6 paths of pain.

 

[NimaH]

hey buddy. as far as i know nagato had a jutsu that could take and give life. so it seems that he could eat obito alive. on the other hand obito knew about the real nagato (the controler) so it can be very controversial.

 

[Flawž]

Right, so you'd use a Jutsu you can spam if it makes no sense to do so? lol. Why would Obito waste chakra just because he can? That is a laughable claim, because Mokuton Sashiki would've been useless against Bijuu Mode Naruto (who can casually destroy mountains). You asked me why he didn't use it against Bijuu Mode Naruto. I told you it was because Naruto could easily destroy it and Obito wouldn't foolishly waste chakra, which is canon. You then said he used it against the alliance, which was actually when Naruto's Bijuu Mode had run out and he had no mountain busting abilities. So it coincides with the idea that Obito wouldn't use Mokuton Sashiki when he knows Naruto has the power to destroy it. This is obvious stuff.

Post 80 doesn't seal anything. If you're talking about a canon fight, then Obito would just warp to Nagato and finish him there. Obito doesn't need to fight the 6 paths because he knows the secret. The scenario was hypothetical in the sense that Obito would have no choice and would have to fight the 6 paths of pain.

i agree. Pain will give him a fight like konan did but obito will come out with the victory.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Right, so you'd use a Jutsu you can spam if it makes no sense to do so? lol. Why would Obito waste chakra just because he can? That is a laughable claim, because Mokuton Sashiki would've been useless against Bijuu Mode Naruto (who can casually destroy mountains). You asked me why he didn't use it against Bijuu Mode Naruto. I told you it was because Naruto could easily destroy it and Obito wouldn't foolishly waste chakra, which is canon. You then said he used it against the alliance, which was actually when Naruto's Bijuu Mode had run out and he had no mountain busting abilities. So it coincides with the idea that Obito wouldn't use Mokuton Sashiki when he knows Naruto has the power to destroy it. This is obvious stuff.

Post 80 doesn't seal anything. If you're talking about a canon fight, then Obito would just warp to Nagato and finish him there. Obito doesn't need to fight the 6 paths because he knows the secret. The scenario was hypothetical in the sense that Obito would have no choice and would have to fight the 6 paths of pain.

Naruto didn't destroy the wood when it binded him while in Bijuu Mode, there is nothing stopping Obito from piercing his body at that range. You make absolutely no sense with that 'mountain busting' stuff.

 

[Flawž]

Naruto didn't destroy the wood when it binded him while in Bijuu Mode, there is nothing stopping Obito from piercing his body at that range. You make absolutely no sense with that 'mountain busting' stuff.

do you not agree with kishi and the manga stating that obito has mokuton?

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

do you not agree with kishi and the manga stating that obito has mokuton?

He did, but it was weaker than when he used it in 'Hell'.

 

[OnPoint]

Naruto didn't destroy the wood when it binded him while in Bijuu Mode, there is nothing stopping Obito from piercing his body at that range. You make absolutely no sense with that 'mountain busting' stuff.

...because Naruto didn't use a Bijuu Dama and destroy Kakashi, who was right next to him :/ Again it was situational, so he just headbutted Obito instead. Mountain busting is just a power which destroys large things, like mountains. To bust a mountain. How can it not make sense, there's hardly anything you need to 'get'.

 

[Truemadara]

Right, so you'd use a Jutsu you can spam if it makes no sense to do so? lol. Why would Obito waste chakra just because he can? That is a laughable claim, because Mokuton Sashiki would've been useless against Bijuu Mode Naruto (who can casually destroy mountains). You asked me why he didn't use it against Bijuu Mode Naruto. I told you it was because Naruto could easily destroy it and Obito wouldn't foolishly waste chakra, which is canon. You then said he used it against the alliance, which was actually when Naruto's Bijuu Mode had run out and he had no mountain busting abilities. So it coincides with the idea that Obito wouldn't use Mokuton Sashiki when he knows Naruto has the power to destroy it. This is obvious stuff.

Post 80 doesn't seal anything. If you're talking about a canon fight, then Obito would just warp to Nagato and finish him there. Obito doesn't need to fight the 6 paths because he knows the secret. The scenario was hypothetical in the sense that Obito would have no choice and would have to fight the 6 paths of pain.

I cudda swore nagatos location was always hidden..and last time I checked obito doesn't have sage mode and can't reverse pains signal to track him down..
Think smart if they really had to fight would pain know his secret location?

And wouldn't konan teleport to him? Then teleport the rest of the team there?

What will he do if the deva path has that much more power signal into him. You forget the closer they are to nagato the more power their abilities would be amplified...if he really could warp out of situations with such ease then why not warp out while the ten tails blast the entire scene away? Why does he acknowledge that he will die if madara made those actions? Wouldn't he warp out fast enough?

This manga is the master of dialogue...hed tell them he was going to the main pain..1hich makes no difference because he can't do so while fighting the paths...deva path can pull him everytime he tries to warp if you want to be literal..that's when he goes solid and I think he and konan already knew that.

 

[~Sovereign~]

arguable

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

...because Naruto didn't use a Bijuu Dama and destroy Kakashi, who was right next to him :/ Again it was situational, so he just headbutted Obito instead. Mountain busting is just a power which destroys large things, like mountains. To bust a mountain. How can it not make sense, there's hardly anything you need to 'get'.

No, what doesn't make sense is that you keep saying Naruto would use a Bijuu-DAMA to counter a wooden stick with sharp branches, it's like you're saying he would use a beach ball to counter a toothpick and Obito would expect him to.

And you just contradicted yourself BTW, you just said he wouldn't use BIJUU-DAMA because of Kakashi, that is all the more reason for Obito to use Mokuton Sashiki on him right then and there! That proves that he couldn't.

 

[OnPoint]

I cudda swore nagatos location was always hidden..and last time I checked obito doesn't have sage mode and can't reverse pains signal to track him down..
Think smart if they really had to fight would pain know his secret location?

It is within Obito's powers to do so.

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And wouldn't konan teleport to him? Then teleport the rest of the team there?

Where has Konan shown the ability to teleport? She hasn't. Nagato would have to re-summon her to his location and by that time, Obito could've warped Nagato with only a single touch.

What will he do if the deva path has that much more power signal into him. You forget the closer they are to nagato the more power their abilities would be amplified...if he really could warp out of situations with such ease then why not warp out while the ten tails blast the entire scene away? Why does he acknowledge that he will die if madara made those actions? Wouldn't he warp out fast enough?

He needs to stay connected so that someone is in control of the Juubi. If he uses Kamui, his entire body will be engulfed by the explosion and the connection with the 10 tails will be lost.

This manga is the master of dialogue...hed tell them he was going to the main pain..1hich makes no difference because he can't do so while fighting the paths...deva path can pull him everytime he tries to warp if you want to be literal..that's when he goes solid and I think he and konan already knew that.

You would have seen that I said the fight (if Obito actually fought Pain) can go either way.

 

[dmasta]

itachi is strongest one what are you smoking

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

I figured you would be an Obito fan judging from your avatar and signature.
Just telling it like it is, eh?

BTW, Itachi stands a chance.

I am an Obito fan.

itachi is strongest one what are you smoking

In my opinion he's second strongest.

 

[OnPoint]

No, what doesn't make sense is that you keep saying Naruto would use a Bijuu-DAMA to counter a wooden stick with sharp branches, it's like you're saying he would use a beach ball to counter a toothpick and Obito would expect him to.

No. I said Naruto has the potential to easily destroy it with such power, so Obito (knowing this) obviously wouldn't use it if a Bijuu Dama or a chakra roar could defeat it, effortlessly.

And you just contradicted yourself BTW, you just said he wouldn't use BIJUU-DAMA because of Kakashi, that is all the more reason for Obito to use Mokuton Sashiki on him right then and there! That proves that he couldn't.

Again, you need to learn to look at the situation. Obito was trying to grab Kakashi (to warp him), who was near collapse. He merely restrained Naruto so that he could quickly complete his objective. No point using Mokuton Sashiki against Bijuu Mode Naruto when even his chakra arms could swat the branches away. He would've accomplished nothing by doing that, and missed a golden opportunity to warp Kakashi aswell.

 

[Twin Steps]

Nagato would destroy Obito.