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Obito > Pain that doesn't make him strongest though.
 

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I don't see how nagato can beat obito ,kamuie is op
 

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Nagato is an idiot. Intelligence is invaluable when it comes to the Narutoverse. Therefore Obito>Nagato.
 

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Are you saying Obito is not the master of Kamui? His own eye tech? lol

Pain has more than enough jutsu and animal summons to make Obito use up his 5 minutes, if Konan could do it, it'll be easy for Pain.
 

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Are you saying Obito is not the master of Kamui? His own eye tech? lol
this.. lol that guy.... anyway on topic, can't hit what you can't touch.. I mean there is a possibility of shinra tensei, like negative knight said. but again, with Kamui and the fact he can make hiself intangible, I don't see how pain will stop Obito. Yes he'll be a challenge, but Obito can overcome pain.
 

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I was talking about Akatsuki, and even against Naruto, Pain wasn't at full power.

Sorry my logic was that Naruto beat them all in sm and now he is in bm and cant defeat Obito, and why was nagato not at full strength who said he wasnt?
 

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Nagato controls all the Path's, he is all of them combined and has all their powers, I doubt Obito can stop something like that.

I don't know whether you've suddenly started talking about Nagato here, but with regards to Pain, Obito stands a decent chance of snatching victory if we ignore the fact that he could always stop Nagato without initiating in direct combat with the Paths (because of his knowledge on the Rikudō‎ no Jutsu and the chakra receivers). Combining Mokuton with Kamui (and using a complete Izanagi as a last resort) equates to serious levels of hax. Pain also has ways of winning, mind.
 

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Sorry my logic was that Naruto beat them all in sm and now he is in bm and cant defeat Obito, and why was nagato not at full strength who said he wasnt?

Pain had just got done cleaning Konoha, God Mode was powerless until 4 of his 6 Path's were destroyed.
 

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Nagato is an idiot. Intelligence is invaluable when it comes to the Narutoverse. Therefore Obito>Nagato.
Nagato, an idiot? lol!
Pain has more than enough jutsu and animal summons to make Obito use up his 5 minutes, if Konan could do it, it'll be easy for Pain.
Didn't think about this, yeah you have a point. It still won't be easy and I still see Obito beating Pain somehow.
 

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Nagato, an idiot? lol!

Didn't think about this, yeah you have a point. It still won't be easy and I still see Obito beating Pain somehow.

In comparison to the smartest of shinobi, yes. He was so easily manipulated. Madara is the only shinobi that is both a powerhouse and a smart guy (somewhat).
 

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He can only hold it for five minutes at a time after he releases it that time limit resets pain has to hit him non stop without obito dodging any of it by himself. just because konan had a huge trap set and knew obitos weakness doesn't mean pain /nagato would.
 

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I don't know whether you've suddenly started talking about Nagato here, but with regards to Pain, Obito stands a decent chance of snatching victory if we ignore the fact that he could always stop Nagato without initiating in direct combat with the Paths (because of his knowledge on the Rikudō‎ no Jutsu and the chakra receivers). Combining Mokuton with Kamui (and using a complete Izanagi as a last resort) equates to serious levels of hax. Pain also has ways of winning, mind.

All Obito depends on is his intangibility, which runs out after 5 minutes of continuous use. Pain can easily make him use that up.

And in any sort of case, Rinnegan will always defeat any other lower form of Dōjutsu, that shouldn't even be disputed.
 

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I always considered Nagato as the strongest
obito already had kamui
if he was so op and shit he could have killed him and obtained the rinnegan and carried the plan acc.
to his way or maybe the plot wasnt designed like that
 

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not sure, but what about itachi?
 

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please tell me how can the 6pop fight 6 bijuu when there bodies where getting destroyed by naruto punches in base rasengan plus obito has better controll over the mazo did nagato does also if where talking about nagato

6 bijuu plus obito combo will get his intervals
 

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All Obito depends on is his intangibility, which runs out after 5 minutes of continuous use. Pain can easily make him use that up.

And in any sort of case, Rinnegan will always defeat any other lower form of Dōjutsu, that shouldn't even be disputed.

He has Mokuton, which was hidden from us for plot/identity reasons. He will use Izanagi if he has to. So these aren't things you can ignore. And with regards to your final point. Obito isn't your typical MS user like Itachi or Sasuke who would be dispatched by a stronger Rinnegan user. You need a special type of power (ala, S/T Ninjutsu) to defeat him, that's canon [ ]. The only way Pain is winning is if he can spam his Jutsu and force Obito to remain intangible (and therefore unable to warp). But the former has nothing for a complete Izanagi.
 

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not sure, but what about itachi?
When he was alive, he was hindered by many things. Pain would take him.
please tell me how can the 6pop fight 6 bijuu when there bodies where getting destroyed by naruto punches in base rasengan plus obito has better controll over the mazo did nagato does also if where talking about nagato

6 bijuu plus obito combo will get his intervals

This is about the time when Obito relied solely on Kamui and Izanagi.
 
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