Let me tell you my opinion/fact for Rasengan vs. Chidori

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Sounds like bunch of excuses that go against Wind>lighting and prove my point that the user and his chakra is huge factor in elemental clash.
It means that water received kinetic energy from spiraling chakra while in case of chidori it was dissipated by both water and metal that conduct electricity?

Chidori is piercing attack and done the job well. Rasengan barely made a hole in that tank, if it hadnt then no explosion would happen at the back side

All I'm saying is that that was the 3rd Raikage.
Of course he could tank a Rasenshuriken. You compare the 3rd Raikage to Sasuke? Seriously?

So does naruto.

Naruto has more powerful chakra than Sasuke. Sasuke's chakra is just sinister.

Wind will rip lighting apart if they collide.

No, I think it just cancels it out, or stops it from moving anymore.
I never understood how Wind was > Lightning in the Narutoverse anyways...
 
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Enton will not "absorb" it.
Enton will "engulf" the Rasenshuriken and make it stronger.
Using Enton against Naruto's Rasenshuriken is pointless.
Naruto can still hold (and throw) an Amaterasu Rasenshuriken.

Don't be stupid.

"Absorb" and "engulf" are synonymous for each other:

They essentially mean the same thing. Arguing semantics is pointless.


And the person in control of the black flames is Sasuke, that is a manga fact ( ).
 

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All I'm saying is that that was the 3rd Raikage.
Of course he could tank a Rasenshuriken. You compare the 3rd Raikage to Sasuke? Seriously?
Sasuke has impressive mastery over raiton. Shape manipulation surpasses that of raikages, he even tamed lightning i would say sasuke is the raiton king here.
3rd merely burns more chakra for his nukite and armor while sasuke was able to breach raiton armor with regular chidori as well.
Naruto has more powerful chakra than Sasuke. Sasuke's chakra is just sinister.
GTFO. Naruto has not, stop fanboying. His chakra only gets more powerful while SM(nature) and KCM/BM (kurama).
Uchihas are the ones with powerful chakras. Sasuke was compared to madara the owner of exceptionally powerful chakra among uchiha clan and stated by karin to have more intense chakra then CM lvl2 aka SM. So sasuke tops SM or Kurama in chakra power here.
 

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Don't be stupid.

"Absorb" and "engulf" are synonymous for each other:

They essentially mean the same thing. Arguing semantics is pointless.


And the person in control of the black flames is Sasuke, that is a manga fact ( ).

What I mean is that Rasenshuriken will just wear the Enton like a suit of armor.
...and Naruto was the one carrying the Enton Rasenshuriken, so he pretty much has control for wherever it's going.

Sasuke has impressive mastery over raiton. Shape manipulation surpasses that of raikages, he even tamed lightning i would say sasuke is the raiton king here.
3rd merely burns more chakra for his nukite and armor while sasuke was able to breach raiton armor with regular chidori as well.
GTFO. Naruto has not, stop fanboying. His chakra only gets more powerful while SM(nature) and KCM/BM (kurama).
Uchihas are the ones with powerful chakras. Sasuke was compared to madara the owner of exceptionally powerful chakra among uchiha clan and stated by karin to have more intense chakra then CM lvl2 aka SM. So sasuke tops SM or Kurama in chakra power here.

So Naruto doesn't have more powerful chakra than Sasuke?
Basic Rasengan uses up regular chakra.
Chidori uses up Lightning ENHANCED chakra.

Basic Rasengan = Chidori

Sasuke has to enhance his chakra to compare it to Naruto's.
You might as well walk out the thread on that one.
 

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I don't know if it was a filler or not but remember that race ?? team 7 had to protect that racer and then there were someone who attacked them with a legendary sword I guess ( since I watched it a long time a go I don't remember it that well sorry) ...chidori didn;t efect it that much.... naruto's rasengan broke it .... does that count ?? I don't know ^_^
 

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No, I think it just cancels it out, or stops it from moving anymore.
I never understood how Wind was > Lightning in the Narutoverse anyways...
A wind beats raiton when shaped into blade otherwise its just simple non conductor like regular chakra.
 

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I don't know if it was a filler or not but remember that race ?? team 7 had to protect that racer and then there were someone who attacked them with a legendary sword I guess ( since I watched it a long time a go I don't remember it that well sorry) ...chidori didn;t efect it that much.... naruto's rasengan broke it .... does that count ?? I don't know ^_^

Filler and doesn't count.
I actually liked that episode though.
 

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FRS attacked raiton armor and barely made it.
At any rate i think that chakra power behind any jutsu matters and sasuke got powerful chakra
actually what tanked FRS wasn't raiton armour,it was the third raikage's own body(which was compared to steel on durablity),matter of fact after being hit by FRS his raiton armour dissappeared completely.
 

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So Naruto doesn't have more powerful chakra than Sasuke?
Basic Rasengan uses up regular chakra.
Chidori uses up Lightning ENHANCED chakra.

Basic Rasengan = Chidori

Sasuke has to enhance his chakra to compare it to Naruto's.
You might as well walk out the thread on that one.
A reason why rasengan performs so well against chidori is rotation. It distorts/bends the lightning enhanced chakra blade and not powerful chakra of naruto he never had himself.

The reason wind beats lighting is cuz it is generally shaped into blade otherwise it would just be regular spinning non conduct-ant chakra like rasengan. If naruto would just be spiraling compressed wind then he wouldnt get any elemental advantage over lightning.
 
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i still say chidori is more use full
 

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actually what tanked FRS wasn't raiton armour,it was the third raikage's own body(which was compared to steel on durablity),matter of fact after being hit by FRS his raiton armour dissappeared completely.

And how come that wind vs lighting and raikages body fails and nukite succeeds? Wasnt wind best cutting element? Didnt sasuke make Ay bleed with chidori?
 

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And how come that wind vs lighting and raikages body fails and nukite succeeds? Wasnt wind best cutting element? Didnt sasuke make Ay bleed with chidori?

nope,lightning>wind at cutting things,yet when a wind jutsu and lightning jutsu clash,the wind one has the advantage because of the elemental vulnerabilities.
 

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nope,lightning>wind at cutting things,yet when a wind jutsu and lightning jutsu clash,the wind one has the advantage because of the elemental vulnerabilities.

If shaped into a blade. Regardless it performed poorly vs 3rd
 

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If shaped into a blade. Regardless it performed poorly vs 3rd
what proof of that do you have?in the manga it says if two elemental jutsus of the same strength clash the one with an elemental advantage is the one which will win.there wwas no mention of shape or what so ever.
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also you're still understimating the third raikage who fought body to body on equal footings with a bijuu,without a magical power-up.that guy is a tank.(he might even tanked a bijuu dama)
 

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rasengan/hammer
chidori/screwdiver
they do different things so comparing them is pointless
but i know how bad you guys want naruto to equal sasuke in every aspect
yet sadly rasengan>chidori
watch the water tower episode , there is proof there
and if you still deny it your obviously biased
 

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what proof of that do you have?in the manga it says if two elemental jutsus of the same strength clash the one with an elemental advantage is the one which will win.there wwas no mention of shape or what so ever.
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also you're still understimating the third raikage who fought body to body on equal footings with a bijuu,without a magical power-up.that guy is a tank.(he might even tanked a bijuu dama)
Yet when naruto was up to find out his chakra type, kakashi said that wind cuts. While training naruto was practicing into focusing wind element into thin stream (blade), Asuma too said to make it thin otherwise it sux.

Wind only cuts when made into a blade otherwise its just wind, and elemental advantage is non conductivity which alone cant beat a lighting, just as lighting doesnt pierce anything if it isnt remotely shaped into something pointy.

Mind you that raiton has advantage over suiton(not in the picture), but it only in a way that water simply conducts raiton, nothing else.
 

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Naw.. Chidori don't stand a chance.
 

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Sage Modo Rasengawn > weak Uchiha rat lighting stab
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