[Discussion] Legend of Korra - Book 4 Episode 11

[Kooljay]

It was still underwhelming. It could have at least obliterated the boats and small buildings it hit. The flying bison even took a slight hit just fine. Hopefully some mainish character die at least.

 

[Bling Kai]

All I can say is it's better than any episode from Naruto but is that really hard?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Raiko may have done the right thing. If he hadn't stood down, all the citizens, the entire city and the entire army would get obliterated. Remember when King Bumi surrendered Omashu to the Fire Nation? It was all a wise choice even though at first it made no sense to give the city without putting up any resistance.

I agree with the lack of fight scenes, this season needs more of them. I was expecting a ton of fight scenes but they surrendered.:devil:
Too bad we won't be seeing many traditional fight scenes anymore, just the final battle between Avatar state Korra VS Mecha Kuvira and some stealth scenes. This season has been all about stealth which is quite intriguing in its own right. Too bad a conventional war like TLA doesn't seem like it will happen anymore.

I don't recall any good guy dying the LoK or TLA. It is even worse off at killing characters than Naruto because it is an animated series on a kid's channel. It would be pretty funny if Kuvira ended up only killing Bataar Jr.

By Avatarverse standards, its power level is unreal. This level of power is only rivalled by Fire Lord Ozai during the Sozin's comet or an Avatar in the avatar state.

It's the cold war.
The lazer is nuclear power.

 

[Kiiszame]

Cant you just earth bend the ground and drop the mech robot then use metal bending an remove the canon? Heck Bolin can solo that mech suit with his lava bending!

Im not a general but seems like they backed down too easily. Kuvira did a good job at playing her cards right.
They let fear get the better of them. If they would have acted quickly they could finished something that big easily.

 

[Cabbage]

Cant you just earth bend the ground and drop the mech robot then use metal bending an remove the canon? Heck Bolin can solo that mech suit with his lava bending!

Im not a general but seems like they backed down too easily. Kuvira did a good job at playing her cards right.
They let fear get the better of them. If they would have acted quickly they could finished something that big easily.

Um, you can't metal bend platinum.

 

[Delcan]

Totally didn't expect this whole mecha thing. It was entertaining nonetheless.

 

[Caliburn]

Cant you just earth bend the ground and drop the mech robot then use metal bending an remove the canon? Heck Bolin can solo that mech suit with his lava bending!

Im not a general but seems like they backed down too easily. Kuvira did a good job at playing her cards right.
They let fear get the better of them. If they would have acted quickly they could finished something that big easily.

Um, you can't metal bend platinum.

Correct. It was already stated in the very first season that the mecha's created by Amon were made of Titanium. The reason as why some people can bend metal, is because there are still impurities left. Titanium however does not have any impurities and as a result can not be bend. So logically when one of your primary enemies are metal benders, you are not going to send in metal mecha's. That would be no different then sending your soldiers to their doom in their coffins.

That entire mecha is simply not bendable, outside some parts in the control room which allows Kuvira to manipulate it.

Putting that aside you also need to take into consideration its massive size. Bending has a limit you know, no one has ever been bending things like entire ships and the like. On top of that it moves extremely fast and to be able to bend it, you need to get close, so from a practical point of view it's also nearly impossible. Don't forget she has her entire army with her.

Same issues are present if they would try bending the earth to make the giant fall or stumble. It moves fast, it's really huge and it's protected by probably the strongest earth bending army in the world.

Again same thing with Bolin, that mecha suit isn't going to start melting instantly even if he would succeed getting close to it.

And they had no choice other than to back down. They didn't expected a huge mecha suit to appear. They had no plan whatsoever to deal with it and it can easily wipe out the majority of their army with a single blast. The once remaining would consequently be easily overtaken by Kuvira's army. They didn't let fear get the better of them, in fact it was completely the opposite. They did not have any other option than surrendering. Now they can abide their time and wait for an opportunity to strike. Acting quickly? That equals a swift and merciless death

 

[Saikyokami]

That entire mecha is simply not bendable, outside some parts in the control room which allows Kuvira to manipulate it.

Putting that aside you also need to take into consideration its massive size. Bending has a limit you know, no one has ever been bending things like entire ships and the like.

Kiyoshi u.u

 

[silmarill]

Correct. It was already stated in the very first season that the mecha's created by Amon were made of Titanium. The reason as why some people can bend metal, is because there are still impurities left. Titanium however does not have any impurities and as a result can not be bend. So logically when one of your primary enemies are metal benders, you are not going to send in metal mecha's. That would be no different then sending your soldiers to their doom in their coffins.

That entire mecha is simply not bendable, outside some parts in the control room which allows Kuvira to manipulate it.

Putting that aside you also need to take into consideration its massive size. Bending has a limit you know, no one has ever been bending things like entire ships and the like. On top of that it moves extremely fast and to be able to bend it, you need to get close, so from a practical point of view it's also nearly impossible. Don't forget she has her entire army with her.

Same issues are present if they would try bending the earth to make the giant fall or stumble. It moves fast, it's really huge and it's protected by probably the strongest earth bending army in the world.

Again same thing with Bolin, that mecha suit isn't going to start melting instantly even if he would succeed getting close to it.

And they had no choice other than to back down. They didn't expected a huge mecha suit to appear. They had no plan whatsoever to deal with it and it can easily wipe out the majority of their army with a single blast. The once remaining would consequently be easily overtaken by Kuvira's army. They didn't let fear get the better of them, in fact it was completely the opposite. They did not have any other option than surrendering. Now they can abide their time and wait for an opportunity to strike. Acting quickly? That equals a swift and merciless death

They should have lightning bold'd bend that giant mecha and electrocuted slaughtered everyone inside .. Or is titanium not a conductor ?

 

[Kiiszame]

Correct. It was already stated in the very first season that the mecha's created by Amon were made of Titanium. The reason as why some people can bend metal, is because there are still impurities left. Titanium however does not have any impurities and as a result can not be bend. So logically when one of your primary enemies are metal benders, you are not going to send in metal mecha's. That would be no different then sending your soldiers to their doom in their coffins.

That entire mecha is simply not bendable, outside some parts in the control room which allows Kuvira to manipulate it.

Putting that aside you also need to take into consideration its massive size. Bending has a limit you know, no one has ever been bending things like entire ships and the like. On top of that it moves extremely fast and to be able to bend it, you need to get close, so from a practical point of view it's also nearly impossible. Don't forget she has her entire army with her.

Same issues are present if they would try bending the earth to make the giant fall or stumble. It moves fast, it's really huge and it's protected by probably the strongest earth bending army in the world.

Again same thing with Bolin, that mecha suit isn't going to start melting instantly even if he would succeed getting close to it.

And they had no choice other than to back down. They didn't expected a huge mecha suit to appear. They had no plan whatsoever to deal with it and it can easily wipe out the majority of their army with a single blast. The once remaining would consequently be easily overtaken by Kuvira's army. They didn't let fear get the better of them, in fact it was completely the opposite. They did not have any other option than surrendering. Now they can abide their time and wait for an opportunity to strike. Acting quickly? That equals a swift and merciless death

Was it stated that the giant mech suit is made out of platinum somewhere?

They did have limited time to react to the mech suit giant but they're suppose to be a we'll trained army lead by a general with the avatar. It just felt like they could have done more instead of throwing the towel so quickly and then allowing for the mech suit to get so close.

I do believe fear played a part. They ddnt want to take a chance and risk lives so they decided to play it safe.

Avatars have been able to bend in massive scales. The mech suit isn't that fast. It moves quickly for its size. All it would take is someone to fly to the canon weld the metal with fire and seal the canon. That buy enough time for a an all scale attack.

(The mech suits were crossing the bridge... why not take it down along with her entire little army of robots?)

 

[Brian Griffin]

According to Michael Bay only a Giant Robot can defeat a Giant Robot,May be Varrick and Baatar will make one for Korra

Optimus.......

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its so simple

 

[Caliburn]

Was it stated that the giant mech suit is made out of platinum somewhere?

They did have limited time to react to the mech suit giant but they're suppose to be a we'll trained army lead by a general with the avatar. It just felt like they could have done more instead of throwing the towel so quickly and then allowing for the mech suit to get so close.

I do believe fear played a part. They ddnt want to take a chance and risk lives so they decided to play it safe.

Avatars have been able to bend in massive scales. The mech suit isn't that fast. It moves quickly for its size. All it would take is someone to fly to the canon weld the metal with fire and seal the canon. That buy enough time for a an all scale attack.

(The mech suits were crossing the bridge... why not take it down along with her entire little army of robots?)

They don't have to state it. They are metalbenders themselves and among their primary enemies there are metalbenders too. Unless they're retarded, it would be a horrifying mistake to send in a metal giant towards a group of experienced metalbenders.

Also as far as I know their regular sized mecha's are the result of Asami's father inventions from season 1, which were confirmed to be made out of titanium. So far no metal bender tried to bend those mecha's, so it would be very illogical for them to then not make their giant mecha out of titanium likewise.

Even assuming that they somehow did not make it out of titanium, it still stands that it would be too huge to bend as that's just laughable: they go through all the effort of making a secret weapon, which then gets easily beaten by metalbenders of which they knew they would be fighting them while being metalbenders themselves.

And it doesn't matter how well-trained their army was. They weren't expecting Kuvira for another week and then suddenly she is right in of front of them with her army. That already gave Kuvira the advantage, but then she shows up with a huge mecha giant with a canon on his shoulder that can easily wipe out several battleships with one shot? Unless they were so prepared they calculated all possible scenario's, including one where Kuvira pops up with a giant metal one-hit-kill mecha, it doesn't matter how well trained their army was. The fact that they didn't ran the moment they saw it, testifies that they are well trained, but that doesn't mean they suddenly can find a plan on the spot and act upon it to take down something they didn't even expected in their wildest dreams.

This also applies to Korra. She already lost once to Kuvira, something that's probably well known by now and there isn't any guarantee, despite her being the Avatar, she is capable of taking down a giant mecha on the spur of the moment. Just like there was never any guarantee that Aang would beat Ozai. If the Avatar was that much of a safe bet, why bothering at all getting an army ready?

Even assuming that somehow Korra would be able to beat it, she would have to do it in one blow and extremely fast as seriously that giant can wipe their army out in a heartbeat and this while they just knew about its existence for a few minutes. If she was able to pull that off in such a situation, then they should have never been in that situation in the first place as then they could have easily taken care of Kuvira a long time ago. The reality is that their own army was in fact completely in the way, they were sitting ducks at the point of being hostages, completely at the mercy of Kuvira. A more appropriated strategy would have been to pull their entire army back out of the range of that canon and try destroying it by using things like guerilla tactics and then go on an all-out assault. The formation they currently have was probably one of the worst they could have deployed for this situation and it's doubtful they would have done it if they had known about the mecha.

It pretty much was that they were expecting a fist fight and then just when the fight is going to start, they see that their enemy is completely clad in armour and mounted with heavy artillery. That mecha would just have to body slam once to crush their army literally.

 

[Kiiszame]

They don't have to state it. They are metalbenders themselves and among their primary enemies there are metalbenders too. Unless they're retarded, it would be a horrifying mistake to send in a metal giant towards a group of experienced metalbenders.

Also as far as I know their regular sized mecha's are the result of Asami's father inventions from season 1, which were confirmed to be made out of titanium. So far no metal bender tried to bend those mecha's, so it would be very illogical for them to then not make their giant mecha out of titanium likewise.

Even assuming that they somehow did not make it out of titanium, it still stands that it would be too huge to bend as that's just laughable: they go through all the effort of making a secret weapon, which then gets easily beaten by metalbenders of which they knew they would be fighting them while being metalbenders themselves.

And it doesn't matter how well-trained their army was. They weren't expecting Kuvira for another week and then suddenly she is right in of front of them with her army. That already gave Kuvira the advantage, but then she shows up with a huge mecha giant with a canon on his shoulder that can easily wipe out several battleships with one shot? Unless they were so prepared they calculated all possible scenario's, including one where Kuvira pops up with a giant metal one-hit-kill mecha, it doesn't matter how well trained their army was. The fact that they didn't ran the moment they saw it, testifies that they are well trained, but that doesn't mean they suddenly can find a plan on the spot and act upon it to take down something they didn't even expected in their wildest dreams.

This also applies to Korra. She already lost once to Kuvira, something that's probably well known by now and there isn't any guarantee, despite her being the Avatar, she is capable of taking down a giant mecha on the spur of the moment. Just like there was never any guarantee that Aang would beat Ozai. If the Avatar was that much of a safe bet, why bothering at all getting an army ready?

Even assuming that somehow Korra would be able to beat it, she would have to do it in one blow and extremely fast as seriously that giant can wipe their army out in a heartbeat and this while they just knew about its existence for a few minutes. If she was able to pull that off in such a situation, then they should have never been in that situation in the first place as then they could have easily taken care of Kuvira a long time ago. The reality is that their own army was in fact completely in the way, they were sitting ducks at the point of being hostages, completely at the mercy of Kuvira. A more appropriated strategy would have been to pull their entire army back out of the range of that canon and try destroying it by using things like guerilla tactics and then go on an all-out assault. The formation they currently have was probably one of the worst they could have deployed for this situation and it's doubtful they would have done it if they had known about the mecha.

It pretty much was that they were expecting a fist fight and then just when the fight is going to start, they see that their enemy is completely clad in armour and mounted with heavy artillery. That mecha would just have to body slam once to crush their army literally.

So they brought sticks to a gun fight.
I will concede on the fact of the scale of the mech suit. The more pictures I see the bigger it looks.

However Korra encountered it already before it appeared before republic city so she could have thought of something to do. But alas the end is near and I don't even care ha.