Lee Kiba Sakura vs Neji Shino Choji

[Anbu Knights]

yes , but lets say in example that Lee have punched one of Shino's insects clones , he would be finished, the insects would instantly warp him and devour on his flesh and Chakra



why ? , he can easily hide somewhere , while make a clone to fight for him . he can just trick them



having knowledge =/= being smart

Hinata also didn't cheat , does that mean that she is smart ? , pft... my ass

Sakura is smart when it come to biology and creating antidotes , but I don't recall Sakura planning a strategy

Sakura is a smart shinobi in general. This has been shown and stated over and over again in part 1. This does not just pertain to biology in medicine. She received the highest test scores, and was even placed on team 7 because of her intelligence...not for herbal and medicinal knowledge.

There are mutiple examples of Sakura's intelligence being applicable in a battle setting starting with her battle against Sasori. She showed the ability to plan quick strategies on the fly, coordinate with other shinobi and displayed masterful analytical skills. She even outsmarted Zetsu during the war. Nothing Shino has ever done suggests he can outsmart someone equally as perceptive as he is. They both have 4's in the Intelligence category in the databooks for a reason.

Probably Lee/Kiba can be outsmarted or tricked, but Sakura? No... just no lol.

 

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how is shino reacting to Lee in first place.shino has same base speed as sakura with no speed feats

Asakujaku stunned saiken so why won't it do same to chouji

but I don't recall Sakura planning a strategy

set a trap against sound ninja's
lured sasori into thinking she was dead before smashing hiruko

 

[Hakke]

Sakura is a smart shinobi in general. This has been shown and stated over and over again in part 1. This does not just pertain to biology in medicine. She received the highest test scores, and was even placed on team 7 because of her intelligence...not for herbal and medicinal knowledge.

There are mutiple examples of Sakura's intelligence being applicable in a battle setting starting with her battle against Sasori. She showed the ability to plan quick strategies on the fly, coordinate with other shinobi and displayed masterful analytical skills. She even outsmarted Zetsu during the war. Nothing Shino has ever done suggests he can outsmart someone equally as perceptive as he is. They both have 4's in the Intelligence category in the databooks for a reason.

Probably Lee/Kiba can be outsmarted or tricked, but Sakura? No... just no lol.

did you forgot about Shino's first match with the sound Ninja or about his fight with Kankuro , he has shown a lot of intelligence feats in planning strategies .

also like I said , being intelligence in a certain subject that doesn't mean that you are intelligence in all subjects

example ,
being smart in mathematics =/= being a strategist
being a smart in physics =/= being smart in martial arts

though I agree that Sakura has shown intelligence feats in planning strategies , but I think that her intelligence is a little bit inferior to Shino's ,

because , did you forget about her plan in killing Sasuke in the five Kage Summit arc ?, she was like :
"oh , hi Sasuke , I am going to betray my village now and join you , and there is definitely nothing suspicious about me at all" , and Sasuke trick to kill her was silly and simple , and she completely fell for it , I can't see how is she going to outsmart Shino

but anyway , don't forget that there is also two smart persons in team 2 , Shino and Neji , if Shino couldn't outsmart Sakura (which is doubtful) , he can just go and target Lee , and Lee would completely fall for his traps , and Neji can easily take care of Sakura

 

[Hakke]

how is shino reacting to Lee in first place.shino has same base speed as sakura with no speed feats

Asakujaku stunned saiken so why won't it do same to chouji

insects clones , if Lee punched his insects clone , he would get warped instantly by deadly insects that devour flesh and Chakra

 

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insects clones , if Lee punched his insects clone , he would get warped instantly by deadly insects that devour flesh and Chakra

Asakujaku burns his insects to crisp

 

[Hakke]

Probably Lee/Kiba can be outsmarted or tricked, but Sakura? No... just no lol.

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lol , yes ,

and that was really a simple trick that any genin can see through , and she completely fell for it

 

[Hakke]

Asakujaku burns his insects to crisp

he would use his insect clones to trick him , not to fight him , and Lee would definitely fall for his tricks .

I mean he can just hide , distract him with insects clones , and planting an insect without he feels , if Shino just managed to land one insect then Lee is done

 

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lol , yes ,

and that was really a simple trick that any genin can see through , and she completely fell for it

I'm talking about by Shino.

Null example of an emotional Sakura who would't have had the balls to kill him anyways. She never designed that tactic to work because she wouldn't have killed him even if the opportunity presented itself. We've seen her strategy at it's finest (against Sasori) so a lesser example is irrelevant here.

Shino will never outsmart Sakura period lol.

 

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he would use his insect clones to trick him , not to fight him , and Lee would definitely fall for his tricks .

Trick him for what.His insects would be burning from each punch or kick from lee.He himself is inferior in speed against all of the three opponents..The only one he is faster than is Chouji so that isn't helping either
Sakura's indirect punch can kill him or Lee's asakujaku one shots him

I mean he can just hide , distract him with insects clones , and planting an insect without he feels , if Shino just managed to land one insect then Lee is done

All three are faster than him.He isn't tricking anyone when he here is liability for his team.Nothing is stopping lee or kiba from blitzing and knocking him at the starting of the fight

1 Vs 1 i do think shino is superior to kiba.Here when he has speed disadvantage against all of his opponents nope

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lol , yes ,

and that was really a simple trick that any genin can see through , and she completely fell for it

Sakura is in love with shino now.Wow everyday you can learn new things on NB

 

[Hakke]

I'm talking about by Shino.

Null example of an emotional Sakura who would't have had the balls to kill him anyways. She never designed that tactic to work because she wouldn't have killed him even if the opportunity presented itself. We've seen her strategy at it's finest (against Sasori) so a lesser example is irrelevant here.

Shino will never outsmart Sakura period lol.

what about the time when she rushed against madara ?

also Shino can just go transforming one of his insects clones into Sasuke , and that way he can play with Sakura's emotions , and disturbing her thoughts or what ever ,

and unlike Shino , Sakura has a weakness and that is her emotions .so there is chance that Shino can use that to outsmart her

don't underestimate the dude , he maybe lacks screen-time , but he sure is powerful

also lets say that he can not outsmart her , he can still go for Lee , and Neji can go for Sakura , and GG team 2 takes this

 

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wait what doesn't Mizu bunshin depends on user's silhouette :| how is shino forming sasuke's silhouette

 

[Hakke]

Trick him for what.His insects would be burning from each punch or kick from lee.He himself is inferior in speed against all of the three opponents..The only one he is faster than is Chouji so that isn't helping either
Sakura's indirect punch can kill him or Lee's asakujaku one shots him

Al three are faster than him.He isn't tricking anyone when he here is liability for his team.Nothing is stopping lee or kiba from blitzing and knocking him at the starting of the fight

1 Vs 1 i do think shino is superior to kiba.Here when he has speed disadvantage against all of his opponents nope

Shino only needs to hide and to replace himself with an insect clone (which is possible if he got some support from his teammates) . don't forget that he is a long/mid , so he doesn't need speed , cuz his insects do all the Job for him , and Lee's punches isn't going to burn anything only asakujaku can burn and Lee have shown no signs of using it , only Gai did .

and Shino's insects can devour flesh and chakra , so it can eat either Sakura or Lee from inside out

Sakura is in love with shino now.Wow everyday you can learn new things on NB

did I say that ?

my point is , unlike Shino , Sakura has a weakness and that is her emotions , that's why I think the Shino has a chance of outsmarting her

 

[Hakke]

wait what doesn't Mizu bunshin depends on user's silhouette :| how is shino forming sasuke's silhouette

Mushi Bunshin no Jutsu

A secret technique exclusive to the Aburame clan, where thousands of kikaichū are gathered in one place to take on the appearance of the user or anyone else the user wishes. The technique is elaborate enough to be mistaken for the original, and therefore may be used as a decoy or as part of a diversionary tactic

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Insect Clone Technique (Mushi Bunshin no Jutsu)

Ninjutsu, Hiden, Supplementary

User: Aburame Shino

A writhing congregation of countless insects, assuming a human form!!

A secret technique exclusive to the Aburame clan, where thousands, even myriads of insects are gathered in one place and pattern themselves after the caster’s silhouette…! Seeing as it’s elaborate enough to be mistaken for the original, it may be used as a decoy, or as part of a diversionary tactic. Furthermore, since one can put the insects in standby someplace beforehand, then have them assume the form of the clone, this jutsu is arguably even more effective than Kage Bunshin, depending on the task.

Once the offensive against him begins, he turns out to be a clone!!

Shino only needs to hide and to replace himself with an insect clone (which is possible if he got some support from his teammates) . don't forget that he is a long/mid , so he doesn't need speed , cuz his insects do all the Job for him , and Lee's punches isn't going to burn anything only asakujaku can burn and Lee have shown no signs of using it , only Gai did .

:lol Lee can open sixth gate
Asakujaku is a sixth gate jutsu.Do the maths

and Shino's insects can devour flesh and chakra , so it can eat either Sakura or Lee from inside out

Good luck landing hit on either without becoming paste

did I say that ?

my point is , unlike Shino , Sakura has a weakness and that is her emotions , that's why I think the Shino has a chance of outsmarting her

for Sasuke not shino

 

[Hakke]

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okay , why can't Shino form Sasuke's silhouette exactly ?

:lol Lee can open sixth gate
Asakujaku is a sixth gate jutsu.Do the maths

he hasn't shown using it , so what makes you sure that he can use it

Rotation is a gentle fist technique , can Hinata perform Rotation ?

Good luck landing hit on either without becoming paste

he doesn't need to get close to them to land an insect , he is a mid/long range , his insects can move by their own

for Sasuke not shino

true , but answer my question , just why can't shino form Sasuke's silhouette ?

 

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okay , why can't Shino form Sasuke's silhouette exactly ?
maybe , but answer my question , just why can't shino form Sasuke's silhouette ?

How the hell will he find sasuke's body to form his silhouette if he is not there in the fight

he hasn't shown using it , so what makes you sure that he can use it
Rotation is a gentle fist technique , can Hinata perform Rotation ?

Stupid comparision.Gated techs come with the gates

First gate: omote renge
Third gate: ura renge
Sixth Gate: Asakujaku
Seventh gate: Hirudora
Eigth gate: evening elephant and night gai

By your Logic Gai should not have been able to use evening elephant and night gai becoz he opened the 8th gate for the first time.
Lee knows about Asakujaku no reason to believe he can't use it

he doesn't need to get close to them to land an insect , he is a mid/long range , their insects can move by their own

?????? there is a reason shino needed to get close to infect juubi clone with flesh eating bugs.
Chakra eating bugs are burned by asakujaku.And you are acting like shino would be forming this stratergy when he is slower than both sakura and lee.Gated lee by a mile

 

[Hakke]

How the hell will he find sasuke's body to form his silhouette if he is not there in the fight

he can easily save it in his mind , and form it with his insects

Stupid comparision.Gated techs come with the gates

First gate: omote renge
Third gate: ura renge
Sixth Gate: Asakujaku
Seventh gate: Hirudora
Eigth gate: evening elephant and night gai

there was no sign of Lee using it , the Jutsu doesn't come at you when you open the gate , there is no evidence that proves that .

also if you check Narutopedia , the users of Asakujaku are only Gai , because Gai the only one shown using it

By your Logic Gai should not have been able to use evening elephant and night gai becoz he opened the 8th gate for the first time.

totally not my point

Lee knows about Asakujaku no reason to believe he can't use it

the reason that there was no Manga scans of Lee using it

if you would like to jump to assumption , then saying that Lee can use Asakujaku , is just like saying that Hinata can perform the air fist wall palm alone with two hands .

?????? there is a reason shino needed to get close to infect juubi clone with flesh eating bugs.
Chakra eating bugs are burned by asakujaku.And you are acting like shino would be forming this stratergy when he is slower than both sakura and lee.Gated lee by a mile

no , actually Shino can strike from a distance , and what does footwork have to do with his abilities , like I told you he can just hide , and manipulate the insects from a distance

just like when he did here

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he can easily save it in his mind , and draw it with his insects

what the hell lmao
is shino a computer now and draw lmao

there was no sign of Lee using it , the Jutsu doesn't come at you when you open the gate , there is no evidence that proves that .

No using gate allows you to use the jutsu.
Lee knows about the jutsu so he can perform it.

Example being Sasuke using Chibaku Tensei and Preta Path
Better example being Gai using evening elephant and night gai

also if you check Narutopedia , the users of Asakujaku are only Gai , because Gai the only one shown using it totally not my point
the reason that there was no scan of Lee using it

so Tsunade cannot use Cherry Blossom impact or Sakura cannot use Heavenly foot of pain now :lol

if you would like to jump to assumption , then saying the Lee can use Asakujaku , is just like saying that Hinata can perform the air fist wall palm alone with two hands .

Stupid comparision.
Lee has 6th gate and he knows about Asakujaku.No reason to believe he can't use it

no , actually Shino can strike from a distance , and what does footwork have to do with his abilities , like I told you he can just hide , and manipulate the insects from a distance
just like when he did here

Smh
Let me put this as easy as i can.Sakura tells her team to get out of her AOE and punches the ground Bye Bye shino

 

[Anbu Knights]

what about the time when she rushed against madara ?

Sakura has mastered Creation Rebirth, meaning she can be in the front lines of battle. She is only doing what she was taught to do by her superior (Tsunade), and following the rules of a medic.

also Shino can just go transforming one of his insects clones into Sasuke , and that way he can play with Sakura's emotions , and disturbing her thoughts or what ever ,

I'm about 99% sure this is a joke lol. I hope it is at least. This works only on part 1 Sakura :\

also lets say that he can not outsmart her , he can still go for Lee , and Neji can go for Sakura , and GG team 2 takes this

But Sakura mid diffs Neji so he'll only end up dying lol. She'll be targeting Choji here where she can defend her team as they handle the opposition.

 

[neosmith500]

No distance or location specified which is pivotal but Team1 wins this low-mid diff.

-Lee can enter 6G faster than Choji can use BM so he can straight up blitz Shino while simulaneously going for Choji afterwards , depending on starting distance and even If Choji manages to go giant BM then Lee easily blitz towards his head and kicks his eye balls in , softening him up for Sakura and Kiba who will hav to finish him off. Neji isn't doing anything here.