Leaf Jounin vs Sannin
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Here's how it goes.
-Tsunade goes into CR and summons her Slug.
-Jman goes Sage Mode with Ma and Pa.
-Orochimaru goes berserk and White Snake Mode.
They play around with the Leaf Jonin and severely overkill them.
-Tsunade goes into CR and summons her Slug.
-Jman goes Sage Mode with Ma and Pa.
-Orochimaru goes berserk and White Snake Mode.
They play around with the Leaf Jonin and severely overkill them.
Kakashi Fang
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Jounin win this.
If Guy goes 7gates he could keep all three Sannin at bay for a while until Shikaku uses shadow bind to subdue them, then Kakashi Neji and Asuma will finish them, using Raikiri gentle fist and chakra blades.
If Guy goes 7gates he could keep all three Sannin at bay for a while until Shikaku uses shadow bind to subdue them, then Kakashi Neji and Asuma will finish them, using Raikiri gentle fist and chakra blades.
EliteKakashi
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I hate seeing this in any thread regarding Kakashi.
There's a big reason we've only seen Kakashi use this in do or die situations. He stated as much himself. It's completely unrealistic for anyone to say Kakashi can go out there and just kamui anything equaling a win, and it's just as unrealistic as to assume he's gonna rely on that off the bat. It completely drains him, making him useless. Lets say he even hit someone with it(Oro just for the sake of the discussion), he's dead the next second anyway after Jiraiya obliterates his weakened form with a rasengan or Tsunade bashes his skull in with one hit.
Kamui, while severely draining his chakra, also disorientates him. He can't run(effectively, at least) after using it, and I would hate to see him try and enter in to combat with Jiraiya, Tsunade or Orochimaru in that state. He's far too intelligent to just start spamming that move. Because it would only work once(if it worked at all) on the sannin. Kakashi would have a better chance(maybe a 0.000000001% instead of 0%) not even using Kamui and just fight them with the rest of his arsenal.
People seem to completely forget the intelligence(of the enemy and kakashi) in a lot of Kakashi's threads in this forum. It's always kamui this, kamui that. Almost wish Kishi never would have gave him the ability, it's almost ruined how people view Kakashi as a character(compared to what he was intended to be). He was once viewed as a great ninja due to his intelligence(which is why I grew to like him so much, he was truly what you could consider a ninja), which is truly his greatest trait, now all anyone ever talks about is his kamui ability.
7th gate Gai can barely beat Kisame. How the hell will he keep 3 sannins at bay. Just like when Shika used his shadow technique the same applies to Shikaku the further away the person is the more chakra is used up. I'm sure they won't be standing still waiting to be caught by shadows. And the shadow techique has been broken out of by a few people already. Asuma didn't really show anything spectacular except chakra blades so ehh. Neji might can block someone's chakra but he will have to get close as hell to them. Who will kakashi rakiri? J-man is faster than Kakashi so he will see it coming. Kakashi is scared of Oro and even if he does get hit by rakiri he will regenerate, Tsunde can heal herself and revive J-man even if he miraculously dies. Sannin rapes these guys almost too easy.
Sorry for the Dp but thank you. I said something similar to this several weeks ago in a Sasuke vs Kakashi in an battle with Ms. Kakashi is more of a defensive fighter he would not use Kamui as an offensive unless his about to die and there is no other way.
fastrthnwind
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Gai, Asuma, and kakashi could take the offensive, leaving Neji and Yamato to defend Shikaku temporarily in order to give him time to think out how to beat the sannin. The reason Gai, Asuma, and Kakashi would take the offensive is because they are more battle smart and could use their taijutsu and ninjutsu prowess to occupy the sannin for a few minutes. Neji and Yamato have more defensive capabilities and would be used to protect Shikaku, their lead strategist while he comes up with several plans to defeat them.
However, the sannins have powerful boss summons which would give them a great advantage over the jounin. Jiraiya has large chakra reserves and is very skilled ninjutsu and taijutsu. He also has SM which is gives him great durability, strength, and powerful ninjutsu. Orochimaru would be their strategist with his vast ninjutsu, genjutsu, and fuuinjutsu knowledge and a very durable body. He also has edo tensei which could bring back any 2 formidable foes who aren't kages. Tsunde is the medic of the team and could heal both of them if they became seriously wounded with her incredible medic ninjutsu. She also has great strength and evasion skills if she ever becomes targeted by the other shinobi.
All in all, it's a great match-up. I really don't know which side will win. I'll post back when I have more insight on how the battle would be played out.
However, the sannins have powerful boss summons which would give them a great advantage over the jounin. Jiraiya has large chakra reserves and is very skilled ninjutsu and taijutsu. He also has SM which is gives him great durability, strength, and powerful ninjutsu. Orochimaru would be their strategist with his vast ninjutsu, genjutsu, and fuuinjutsu knowledge and a very durable body. He also has edo tensei which could bring back any 2 formidable foes who aren't kages. Tsunde is the medic of the team and could heal both of them if they became seriously wounded with her incredible medic ninjutsu. She also has great strength and evasion skills if she ever becomes targeted by the other shinobi.
All in all, it's a great match-up. I really don't know which side will win. I'll post back when I have more insight on how the battle would be played out.
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I think guy and kakashi are powerful but they are sannins dude i think jiraya can solo them all without using sagemode. There is a reason for calling them sanin. And as an addition jman teamed up with tsunade and orochimaru its like hell for the jounins.
Gutsy
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Sannin wins:
Jiraiya got Swamp of the underworld which could imobilice them all if possible, he got boss summon and various rasengan and elemental jutsu, also hair jutsu and SM (Ipressive speed)
Orochimaru well Edo Tensei (2 ninjas, probably quite powerful) got tons of snake jutsu and a few elemental jutsu we did'nt see everything.
Tsunade epic medical nin, with the ability to make her self almost immortal in battle, also incredible powerful and got Slug summon to help the team in need of a medic and defence.
Sannin win.
Jiraiya got Swamp of the underworld which could imobilice them all if possible, he got boss summon and various rasengan and elemental jutsu, also hair jutsu and SM (Ipressive speed)
Orochimaru well Edo Tensei (2 ninjas, probably quite powerful) got tons of snake jutsu and a few elemental jutsu we did'nt see everything.
Tsunade epic medical nin, with the ability to make her self almost immortal in battle, also incredible powerful and got Slug summon to help the team in need of a medic and defence.
Sannin win.
Jonin are too much they would win. Kakashi solo Tsunade, Gai activate Gates while Shikaku and Neji fight Jman, and Oro fight Yamato and Asuma. Then after Jman is defeated Gai will help Kakashi defeat Tsunade.
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pff sannin take this...you know how many jounin fell before that pathetic Hanzo??
all team oro would have to do is...
1. j-man goes inside a toad, who then goes inside a snake, who then goes underground...and meditates for sage mode...
2. oro and tsunade hold off the jounin...(pfff who am i kidding)...lemme rephrase that. oro and tsunade rape asuma, neji, and yamato
3. against oro's regenerating + katsyuu's unending healing....you can't win...and just when shikaku has a plan...sage mode jiraiya pops out...and wipes the floor with kakashi before he can say "oh shit".
4. need i explain the rest of the battle???
together, if somehow...kishi brought back the sannin...together...to fight madara or tobi...the teamwork displayed would be unmatched!!! better than that ino-shika-cho crap!
all team oro would have to do is...
1. j-man goes inside a toad, who then goes inside a snake, who then goes underground...and meditates for sage mode...
2. oro and tsunade hold off the jounin...(pfff who am i kidding)...lemme rephrase that. oro and tsunade rape asuma, neji, and yamato
3. against oro's regenerating + katsyuu's unending healing....you can't win...and just when shikaku has a plan...sage mode jiraiya pops out...and wipes the floor with kakashi before he can say "oh shit".
4. need i explain the rest of the battle???
together, if somehow...kishi brought back the sannin...together...to fight madara or tobi...the teamwork displayed would be unmatched!!! better than that ino-shika-cho crap!
Darkakatsuki
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Mayn the three sannin lost to hanzo and from what we saw hanzo do against Nagato and Misfune, that guy is dog poo mayn, weak!
The name sannin is also overrated, sure the three of them are strong individually but that name is overrated, they got the name for LOSING for kami's sake, they were all beaten up and out of breath and hanzo didn't even have a single injury nor did he even look like he had just been in a battle and them he gave them that name for their impressive team work.
The name sannin denotes to the efforts of THREE people, it aint as great as it is individually, unlike other names like kami no shinobi, which denotes to the efforts of ONE person, and yellow flash also denotes to the efforts and achievements of ONE person, sannin is a shared name that denotes to their achievements as a team, in fact, after they split up, none of them achieved anything alone accept for oro who beat the fourth kazekage and sandaime hokage, tsunade was dominated by pre time skip kabuto and Jiraiya was dominated and killed by pain, never saw him beat anyone, also failed to defeat oro win he tried to stop him from defecting.
I'll admit oro and jman are kage level but tsunade? Overated , kabuto was holding back because he said they wanted to take her in alive and she still lost, she couldn't even track his movements and was quickly incapacitated, na, current kakashi can solo her, if kabuto was too fast for her then kakashi is more than fast enough, raikiri through the chest and kamui katsuya.
Orochimaru with edo's is a bit too much, even if it aint kages. Kakashi still has one more kamui though, if they can trap oro and the edo's in shikaku's shadows and then have kakashi kamui oro then they will be good to go, kakashi will be out though so no more of him. Yamato can then use wood release to keep the edo's incapacitated so that shikaku can be free to use his jutsu again.
Jman, I don't know what they can do against swamp of the underworld since they don't have raiton anymore because kakashi is incapacitated after using kamui twice, his raiton would have helped, the swamp being an earth style jutsu, I would have assumed that streaming raiton chakra into the ground would cancel it out like sasuke was able to cancel out deidara's bombs with raiton because they were earth based, but he's out now so jman would finish the fight, or maybe not, yamato will just grow trees from the ground and they will use them to climb out of the swamp.
Neji can act as defense with his rotation against Jiraiya's fire techs and hair techs. Plus yamato has wood locking wall and earth walls too. Gai can keep up with sage mode strength with his taijutsu and gates and he can surpass that speed in his gates and overwhelm Jiraiya, Shikaku's shadow will also be chasing him around while he has to deal with Gai's Taijutsu while shikaku also thinks up a plan, asuma um...yare yare this guy is useless, sacrifice him by making him help guy and shikaku, I have no idea how the hell they will deal with gamaken and other summons, ma and pa will also pose a threat with their support ninjutsu, manda is also there and oro' s three headed snake.
Mayn as much as I hate to admit it, the sannins will rape the jounins, I just think the summons give them way too much of an advantage, oro's manda and three headed snake plus edo's, katsuya plus Gamaken, gambunta and gamtora plus ma and pa, hell that would be way too much, they could just use summons alone and just hang back and let them do the job if they wanted to, if summons were banned them jounin would win hands down but with summons to deal with too, no ways, sannin rape them jounins.
The name sannin is also overrated, sure the three of them are strong individually but that name is overrated, they got the name for LOSING for kami's sake, they were all beaten up and out of breath and hanzo didn't even have a single injury nor did he even look like he had just been in a battle and them he gave them that name for their impressive team work.
The name sannin denotes to the efforts of THREE people, it aint as great as it is individually, unlike other names like kami no shinobi, which denotes to the efforts of ONE person, and yellow flash also denotes to the efforts and achievements of ONE person, sannin is a shared name that denotes to their achievements as a team, in fact, after they split up, none of them achieved anything alone accept for oro who beat the fourth kazekage and sandaime hokage, tsunade was dominated by pre time skip kabuto and Jiraiya was dominated and killed by pain, never saw him beat anyone, also failed to defeat oro win he tried to stop him from defecting.
I'll admit oro and jman are kage level but tsunade? Overated , kabuto was holding back because he said they wanted to take her in alive and she still lost, she couldn't even track his movements and was quickly incapacitated, na, current kakashi can solo her, if kabuto was too fast for her then kakashi is more than fast enough, raikiri through the chest and kamui katsuya.
Orochimaru with edo's is a bit too much, even if it aint kages. Kakashi still has one more kamui though, if they can trap oro and the edo's in shikaku's shadows and then have kakashi kamui oro then they will be good to go, kakashi will be out though so no more of him. Yamato can then use wood release to keep the edo's incapacitated so that shikaku can be free to use his jutsu again.
Jman, I don't know what they can do against swamp of the underworld since they don't have raiton anymore because kakashi is incapacitated after using kamui twice, his raiton would have helped, the swamp being an earth style jutsu, I would have assumed that streaming raiton chakra into the ground would cancel it out like sasuke was able to cancel out deidara's bombs with raiton because they were earth based, but he's out now so jman would finish the fight, or maybe not, yamato will just grow trees from the ground and they will use them to climb out of the swamp.
Neji can act as defense with his rotation against Jiraiya's fire techs and hair techs. Plus yamato has wood locking wall and earth walls too. Gai can keep up with sage mode strength with his taijutsu and gates and he can surpass that speed in his gates and overwhelm Jiraiya, Shikaku's shadow will also be chasing him around while he has to deal with Gai's Taijutsu while shikaku also thinks up a plan, asuma um...yare yare this guy is useless, sacrifice him by making him help guy and shikaku, I have no idea how the hell they will deal with gamaken and other summons, ma and pa will also pose a threat with their support ninjutsu, manda is also there and oro' s three headed snake.
Mayn as much as I hate to admit it, the sannins will rape the jounins, I just think the summons give them way too much of an advantage, oro's manda and three headed snake plus edo's, katsuya plus Gamaken, gambunta and gamtora plus ma and pa, hell that would be way too much, they could just use summons alone and just hang back and let them do the job if they wanted to, if summons were banned them jounin would win hands down but with summons to deal with too, no ways, sannin rape them jounins.
Gutsy
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Sannin Win.
Orochimaru with Edo's he keep regnerating, got tons of summonings including Manda also he can turn into that 9 headed white serpent.. how would they handle it?
Jiraiya in SM with Ma & Pa (Genjutsu & support ninjutsu) Various Rasengan's (Oodoma Rasengan how will they handle that?) Then he is well versed in Fire and Earth jutsu such as Swamp of the underworld. Sage art and Summons.
Tsunade can summon slug also she can regenerate herself with her ultimate jutsu so far so she will be almost immortal in combat and her brute strength and medic jutsu would help.
Sannin will win this, i believe if we saw them in action together against let's say Hanzo even if they were defeated they would have incredible teamwork.
Orochimaru with Edo's he keep regnerating, got tons of summonings including Manda also he can turn into that 9 headed white serpent.. how would they handle it?
Jiraiya in SM with Ma & Pa (Genjutsu & support ninjutsu) Various Rasengan's (Oodoma Rasengan how will they handle that?) Then he is well versed in Fire and Earth jutsu such as Swamp of the underworld. Sage art and Summons.
Tsunade can summon slug also she can regenerate herself with her ultimate jutsu so far so she will be almost immortal in combat and her brute strength and medic jutsu would help.
Sannin will win this, i believe if we saw them in action together against let's say Hanzo even if they were defeated they would have incredible teamwork.
Leaf Jounin:
-Kakashi
-Gai
-Asuma
-Yamato
-Shikaku
-Neji
Sannin:
-Jiraya
-Tsunade
-Orochimaru
I am restricting Edo Tensei for my post, simply due to the fact that it erases the numbers advantage.
Interesting matchup to say the least. High-Level summons the Sannin use aren't particularly effective against small targets, so they'd be used for little more than shields, and I do believe between Gai and Yamato they'd make short work of them. I won't say they'd be useless, but they certainly wouldn't be very useful, excluding Katsuyu due to her healing abilities.
The fight all comes down to whether or not Tsunade can be taken care of quickly. If the Sannin cannot heal themselves, they cannot win. Also, while Orochimaru is still enough for any one Jonin, he would have issues with two of them due to his illness. Kakashi and Yamato would be more than enough to deal with Jiraiya while Gai takes care of Tsunade. At that point, it would leave Orochimaru facing Asuma, and Shikaku, not an easy task especially due to the fact that Shikaku can work in collaboration with Asuma's trench knives, a fact that somebody as smart as Shikaku would not overlook. I believe this fight would stay a stalemate for the duration, if not Orochimaru winning it.
I do believe that Tsunade is actually a good matchup for Gai and Neji. Gai is a master of Taijutsu, much like Tsunade. He is obviously faster even outside of the 8 Gates. The only problematic ability Tsunade has that would likely end Gai in an instant is the Body Pathway Derangement technique she used on Kabuto. That being said, pitted against both Neji and Gai, who are sure to have excellent teamwork, wouldn't be easy. She truly has to watch out for Neji while attempting to deal with Gai because once touched it could mean the end of her.
Jiraiya could definitely handle the likes of Yamato and Kakashi together, without much of a problem. He has been shown to excel in Taijutsu and Ninjutsu, and has a far better stamina than either Kakashi or Yamato. I could see this fight going either way, though I do not see Jiraiya being able to enter Sage Mode in my scenario.
In all honesty, if the summons besides Ma and Pa are included then the Sannin automatically win. I don't see the Jonin being able to stand up to Shinobi of the caliber of the Sannin while being distracted by massive summons and the Edo Tensei and still be able to effectively wage war against the Sannin.
Decision: Sannin mid-difficulty
-Kakashi
-Gai
-Asuma
-Yamato
-Shikaku
-Neji
Sannin:
-Jiraya
-Tsunade
-Orochimaru
I am restricting Edo Tensei for my post, simply due to the fact that it erases the numbers advantage.
Interesting matchup to say the least. High-Level summons the Sannin use aren't particularly effective against small targets, so they'd be used for little more than shields, and I do believe between Gai and Yamato they'd make short work of them. I won't say they'd be useless, but they certainly wouldn't be very useful, excluding Katsuyu due to her healing abilities.
The fight all comes down to whether or not Tsunade can be taken care of quickly. If the Sannin cannot heal themselves, they cannot win. Also, while Orochimaru is still enough for any one Jonin, he would have issues with two of them due to his illness. Kakashi and Yamato would be more than enough to deal with Jiraiya while Gai takes care of Tsunade. At that point, it would leave Orochimaru facing Asuma, and Shikaku, not an easy task especially due to the fact that Shikaku can work in collaboration with Asuma's trench knives, a fact that somebody as smart as Shikaku would not overlook. I believe this fight would stay a stalemate for the duration, if not Orochimaru winning it.
I do believe that Tsunade is actually a good matchup for Gai and Neji. Gai is a master of Taijutsu, much like Tsunade. He is obviously faster even outside of the 8 Gates. The only problematic ability Tsunade has that would likely end Gai in an instant is the Body Pathway Derangement technique she used on Kabuto. That being said, pitted against both Neji and Gai, who are sure to have excellent teamwork, wouldn't be easy. She truly has to watch out for Neji while attempting to deal with Gai because once touched it could mean the end of her.
Jiraiya could definitely handle the likes of Yamato and Kakashi together, without much of a problem. He has been shown to excel in Taijutsu and Ninjutsu, and has a far better stamina than either Kakashi or Yamato. I could see this fight going either way, though I do not see Jiraiya being able to enter Sage Mode in my scenario.
In all honesty, if the summons besides Ma and Pa are included then the Sannin automatically win. I don't see the Jonin being able to stand up to Shinobi of the caliber of the Sannin while being distracted by massive summons and the Edo Tensei and still be able to effectively wage war against the Sannin.
Decision: Sannin mid-difficulty
USSJ Future Trunks
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shizune uses poison breath to take out jiraiya. asuma and shikaku pin down orochimaru for as long as possible so kakashi can warp away his skull. gated gai destroys tsunade after neji distracts her for as long as possible. since its suicide to go to taijutsu with the strongest hyuuga, tsunade would summon a slug. gai punches right through it then afternoon tiger's tsunade. if jiraiyas still standing, kakashi and gai unite, and gai goes to 8th gate. gai might die but at least jiraiya wont be given the time to enter sennin mode.
your underestimating kakashi. he doesnt have jiriayas raw power but makes up for it with clever tricks and deadly 1 hit kills like raikiri and kamui. plus jiraiya focuses on katons and kakashi is REALLY good with suiton. with full intel and killing intebt, the jounins will never let oro and jiraiya enter their strongest forms.
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