Law should be able to do more

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Come on,he ate the ultimate DF
Luffy with G4th is way too op compared to Law...
Actually his abilities are disapointing i mean Gomu Gomu no Mi seems to be stronger lmao...
Ope Ope No Mi needs a upgrade...
EDIT:Again i made a fail,i posted it in Naruto Discussion,some1 move it lol sorry forgiv me ...
 
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Law doesn't have to be exactly as strong as Luffy. Also the fruit is situational and very useful when there's a lot of objects for Law to switch confusing and outpacing his opponent.
 

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Luffy's DF is more suited to attrition battles, Law's DF is a masterpiece (it does not need an upgrade), it's just that law is weaker (physically) than Luffy, imo the only thing luffy's DF gives him is range.
 

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What makes luffy DF strong is luffy will and unimaginable physical strength.Law lacks in both department.Also Law's DF is compatible with someone who has like luffy's power.But I want to see both of DFs awakening.
 

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Come on,he ate the ultimate DF
Luffy with G4th is way too op compared to Law...
Actually his abilities are disapointing i mean Gomu Gomu no Mi seems to be stronger lmao...
Ope Ope No Mi needs a upgrade...
EDIT:Again i made a fail,i posted it in Naruto Discussion,some1 move it lol sorry forgiv me ...
man, with all what law did?
 

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Law just needs to increase his stamina. He has good stamina seeing as how hard he fought for how long but you could see it was taking it's toll. If Law could get stamina close to Sanji's level than he'd be golden.
 

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law's DF said to be ultimate because it can grant immortality
it is not very good for fighting
even law according to me does not have animal instint that will increase his fighting talent
 

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law's DF said to be ultimate because it can grant immortality
it is not very good for fighting
even law according to me does not have animal instint that will increase his fighting talent
 

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His stamina is already above Sanji's.
By what measure other than your opinion? Also note endurance is not stamina. I would agree Law has great endurance but he's admitted his power drains him and he has to limit how often he uses it, that's an issue of stamina. Whereas Sanji ran nearly everday all day for 2 years that's stamina. Sanji has good endurance too, but his body breaking fighting Vergo while Law's didn't and then went to take on an Admiral and Doffy shows Law has greater endurance but where is the evidence or reasoning to Law having more stamina than Sanji?
 

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Law and Luffy have the same capabilities, they just do it in very different ways. At the end of the day, they are capable of causing the same damage and accomplishing the same result, but Luffy does so by using brute physical prowess to administer damage over a period of time, while Law uses hax and intelligence to deliver it all at once.

For example, Luffy beating down on Doffy for 51 minutes accomplished the same thing Law did with one haxxed attack(Gamma Knife). Luffy can cross large distances with sheer physical speed and strength, Law can do so via Shambles and a mountain-sized room. Law's Busoshoku is also better than Luffy's.
 

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Law and Luffy have the same capabilities, they just do it in very different ways. At the end of the day, they are capable of causing the same damage and accomplishing the same result, but Luffy does so by using brute physical prowess to administer damage over a period of time, while Law uses hax and intelligence to deliver it all at once.

For example, Luffy beating down on Doffy for 51 minutes accomplished the same thing Law did with one haxxed attack(Gamma Knife). Luffy can cross large distances with sheer physical speed and strength, Law can do so via Shambles and a mountain-sized room. Law's Busoshoku is also better than Luffy's.
@Bold is it? how did we come to this conclusion? This is the first time I can remember someone making that claim. Curious what makes you say so definitively Law's haki is stronger than Luffy's? Luffy seems like he can cover more area with his and that's really the only metric I can think to measure the two against. Law cut that mountain with Room right? Vergo too? Or was it a combination of Room and Haki? Vergo wasn't dead so it had to be some form of Shambles right?
 

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@Bold is it? how did we come to this conclusion? This is the first time I can remember someone making that claim. Curious what makes you say so definitively Law's haki is stronger than Luffy's? Luffy seems like he can cover more area with his and that's really the only metric I can think to measure the two against. Law cut that mountain with Room right? Vergo too? Or was it a combination of Room and Haki? Vergo wasn't dead so it had to be some form of Shambles right?
Law's cuts don't cause physical damage, so of course Vergo didn't die.

Law's Haki without Doffy cutting ability, which Luffy's could not without G4's elasticity. Luffy stated his Koka wasn't strong enough to block sharp attacks and he'd need to train it more, showing that his Haki being susceptible to being cut is a result of its strength level. Luffy's specialty is Haoshoku anyways.
 

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Law's cuts don't cause physical damage, so of course Vergo didn't die.

Law's Haki without Doffy cutting ability, which Luffy's could not without G4's elasticity. Luffy stated his Koka wasn't strong enough to block sharp attacks and he'd need to train it more, showing that his Haki being susceptible to being cut is a result of its strength level. Luffy's specialty is Haoshoku anyways.
Is that meant to be withstood? Not trying to be a **** but it's really throwing me off, I'm gonna go ahead and read it as withstood but correct me if I'm wrong.

ok see that's a good metric to go against. I couldn't remember/think of that example earlier. With that yeah it seems like Law's Haki is tougher than Luffy's. Also now that you say that it makes some sense, he took slash attacks from a healthier Doffy too didn't he? Plus he trained with Vergo who thanks to his full body Haki people credit with having one of the best Haki in the manga.

Now I wonder something though and maybe you can shed some light. It seems like people say Vergo's Haki is so great because he can coat his entire body in it. I mean other than that feat we've seen a pretty limited showing of his Haki in regards to various attacks, you said yourself Law's slashes aren't like a typical slash so Vergo's Haki hasn't been shown against strong slash attacks has it? Only Smoker's Haki? We saw Luffy can cover a lot of his body in Haki as well(and expanded parts of his body which makes me think maybe if he wa in typical size could he coat his whole body since he covered most of it while swelled up) but it's not as durable as Law's. Is it possible Vergo's FBHaki isn't as strong as people made it sound, like Luffy he's covering a wide area maybe the integrity is weakened or something? Any thoughts.
 
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