[Spoilers] Lava rasengan shouldnt work?

[kageking]

We've seen the preta path absorb senpou rasenshuriken so I imagine so. Only thing he can't do is block it with the black stuff. Even that may be possible as madara has hashis sage mode.

 

[Retsu]

Lava might not be able to be absorbed.

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He didn't use it on mei's lava release and instead he tried to avoid it.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Lava might not be able to be absorbed.

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He didn't use it on mei's lava release and instead he tried to avoid it.

I think he was just using his sharingan in that fight.

 

[Behemoth55]

Madara still has the rinnegan so he should just absorb it since its ninjustu but.

Maybe only the left eye holds the power to use all Rikūdo no Jutsu and the right eye Rinbo Hengoku and so on.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Maybe only the left eye holds the power to use all Rikūdo no Jutsu and the right eye Rinbo Hengoku and so on.

I thought that too, but I think I may have been wrong. Rinbou Hengoku seems to resemble deva path since it looks to have knocked down the bijuus with a force. Then of course, Madara threw Sasuke's sword from his hands and stopped him in midair with a glance. This was why I stated earlier that each eye may hold half of the six paths. One, (probably the one he has) with deva, asura and human, and the other (Obito's) with animal, preta and naraka.

 

[cmilius]

Let me just say this in a free writing way....

There are three reason why madara can not absorb "that jutsu."

1. first, It contains too much sage chakra unlike the sage release rasenshuriken which was two times smaller than this, this one is massive

and According to "pa," there is limits to sage chakra... Meaning, if one absorbs too much of sage chakra... the possibility of the person

turning into a stone is %99 true proven again deva path pain... Which madara already have a decent amount off for not being a sage

jutsu user.

2. Second, That's my own take of it... I do not believe that preta path can absorb a kekei genkai sage jutsu which is lava fire + earth

combine not to mention that there is another element that is added to it which is wind...

3. The last but not least is because it might leave an opening to naruto to crush him with frog fu or something else if he ever try to

absorb it.. after all, naruto is as fast as gai if not faster in bijuu sage mode considering madara face when naruto reach him...

 

[RinneBlitz]

It's not Ninjutsu man, it's Senjutsu. Even the name of the technique is Senpo (Sage Art). It will work if it hits him, and I'm sure that it will.

 

[RinneBlitz]

Lava might not be able to be absorbed.

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He didn't use it on mei's lava release and instead he tried to avoid it.

I remember that he said that such a technique is not worth absorbing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Let me think: You're wrong.

Madara only used the path techniques before becoming jinchuuriki. Now there is nothing that ensures his use of the Rinnegan.

I don't think so. He stated he could still use Rinbou Hengoku in this form.

 

[saw2097]

I doubt that is the only attack Naruto is planning, I suspect that this chapter is going to be Naruto using one TB skill after another, for example as Madara is stopping the Lava Rasen Shuriken he may use the Five Tails power to attack Madara from behind then the Three Tails power, then the 7 tails power.

Its going to be more about showing what Naruto can do rather than hurting Madara.

 

[beast7960]

Let me just say this in a free writing way....

There are three reason why madara can not absorb "that jutsu."

1. first, It contains too much sage chakra unlike the sage release rasenshuriken which was two times smaller than this, this one is massive

and According to "pa," there is limits to sage chakra... Meaning, if one absorbs too much of sage chakra... the possibility of the person

turning into a stone is %99 true proven again deva path pain... Which madara already have a decent amount off for not being a sage

jutsu user.


2. Second, That's my own take of it... I do not believe that preta path can absorb a kekei genkai sage jutsu which is lava fire + earth

combine not to mention that there is another element that is added to it which is wind...

3. The last but not least is because it might leave an opening to naruto to crush him with frog fu or something else if he ever try to

absorb it.. after all, naruto is as fast as gai if not faster in bijuu sage mode considering madara face when naruto reach him...

Two things wrong with your logic 1) Madara has hashi's senjutsu, as proved by the fact that his hashiboob has sage mode marking and 2) the Juubi is 100% Natural Energy.

 

[Behemoth55]

the Juubi is 100% Natural Energy.

Hm, Jūbis body consists of nature energy, but the chakra also? Then why isn't Bijū-chakra Senchakra either?

 

[AaaaNinja]

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Is edo immune to sage mode dangers???

The Rasenshuriken is just regular ninjutsu, the Sage Mode is just so Naruto would be able to throw it. The difference has nothing to do with whether Madara can absorb it. Pain could absorb natural energy too so there is nothing new here. It has to do with Naruto using tech that Madara's omyoudon is useless against; the "senpou"/sage rasenshuriken in the spoiler.

Madara already named part of the rinnegan technique he's about to use in the last panel, it's the knockback one. He might or might not discover that it's strong enough, because when Pain used it, the six-tails-mode Naruto was too strong to be knocked back.

If he fails to knock it back, or dodge it, or absorb it fast enough (Naruto made it huge) then he's in trouble.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Hm, Jūbis body consists of nature energy, but the chakra also? Then why isn't Bijū-chakra Senchakra either?

how in the hell can its body be nature energy but not its chakra as well?.... i guess, once its chakra got separated from its body (gedo mazo) those peices of chakra stopped taking in nature energy. the manga didn't really give an explanation.

OT, if he can use a YRS. then he can use a lava rasengan...

 

[Uchiha Samater]

Seriously u guys ?

He is the juubi jinchuuriki < this is why he can't absorb it

 

[ssjelf]

Lmao,I have never said something like that nor implied it and I don't even get from where you pulled that nonsense.

You said this

The very fact that Madara is running away without trying an obvious trick proves that there is something wrong with using Preta against Naruto.

Btw it isn't ninjutsu, Naruto is using senjutsu.

I am pointing out your nitpicking and saying the name doesn't matter.

nope

Juubi Jinchuuriki's are susceptible to senjutsu

, Obito was ERASING not, [ PHASING or ABSORBING ], all attacks on him via onmyoudon

the fact he couldn't phase was a side issue because he mentions in the following chapter he was suprised a juubi jinchuuriki would have such a weakness , check the scan below:

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Considering Naruto is currently in sage mode, makes perfect sense for it to work

Thread should be over.

you are forgetting that the JUUBI JINCHUURIKI cannot absorb sage jutsu as Obito clearly noticed when Naruto got him with a regular rasengan

You said that Obito has a problem absorbing sage justu. That never happened the only problem is that he cant erase it. I thought you were mistaking it for the phasing issue. I guess you are misremembering something. If it is true then scan please i don't remeber Obito saying anything about not being able to absorb sage justu.

The Rasenshuriken is just regular ninjutsu, the Sage Mode is just so Naruto would be able to throw it. The difference has nothing to do with whether Madara can absorb it. Pain could absorb natural energy too so there is nothing new here. It has to do with Naruto using tech that Madara's omyoudon is useless against; the "senpou"/sage rasenshuriken in the spoiler.

Madara already named part of the rinnegan technique he's about to use in the last panel, it's the knockback one. He might or might not discover that it's strong enough, because when Pain used it, the six-tails-mode Naruto was too strong to be knocked back.

If he fails to knock it back, or dodge it, or absorb it fast enough (Naruto made it huge) then he's in trouble.

In sage mode it is theoretically infused with natuto energy. And I understand why naruto used it, just saying that Madara should be fine absorbing it unless he was worried about being exposed or he can't for some other reason. I know the OP was saying Madara should absorb it. i am saying I agree and just checking that Madara can infact absorb sage chakra and that the scan wasn't because edo are immune.

 

[davidou]

Naruto kicked Madara's gudou dama.

1/Naruto masters onmyoudon.
2/The yang release can manipulate omyoudon.

If it's 2/ , it's possible that Yang release in a Rasenshuriken makes it unable to be absorbed by a rinnengan tech.

 

[AaaaNinja]

You said this

I am pointing out your nitpicking and saying the name doesn't matter.



You said that Obito has a problem absorbing sage justu. That never happened the only problem is that he cant erase it. I thought you were mistaking it for the phasing issue. I guess you are misremembering something. If it is true then scan please i don't remeber Obito saying anything about not being able to absorb sage justu.



In sage mode it is theoretically infused with natuto energy. And I understand why naruto used it, just saying that Madara should be fine absorbing it unless he was worried about being exposed or he can't for some other reason. I know the OP was saying Madara should absorb it. i am saying I agree and just checking that Madara can infact absorb sage chakra and that the scan wasn't because edo are immune.

Pain didn't gain frog features from absorbing the rasenshuriken.

 

[A v i]

You said this

I am pointing out your nitpicking and saying the name doesn't matter.

I said that coz OP mentioned that it is a ninjutsu that's it.I didn't implied anything like YRS being a senjutsu based attack would make any difference against Madara.Iam not clueless enough to say something like that as Iam fully aware of the fact that Madara canonically absorbed a similar jutsu on more than one occasion.

I hope this clears the misunderstandings.

 

[ssjelf]

Pain didn't gain frog features from absorbing the rasenshuriken.

Oops said natuto not nature, thankfully you understood it.

Anyway, it was only one rasenshuriken which was only half of what Naruto needed to maintain sage mode transformation. He said he could throw 2 so one equals half. So half wasn't enough to transform pain.

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From these images we can see my statement is true because pain absorbs whats left of Naruto's chakra and then Naruto has to absorb even more before pain can be transformed. This all means that pain not transforming from the rasenshuriken does not mean that it did not have sage chakra because it clearly takes much more than what is possibly contained in the rasenshuriken.

Secondly, if Naruto didn't use sage chakra in it, why was he limited to 2. He then after exiting sage mode could reenter using a sage mode shadow clone. This means that his sage mode chakra was depleted somehow, aka using his jutsus in sage mode.

Beyond that, if Naruto doesn't infuse sage chakra in his attacks, why is he able to hit the black stuff from the juubi jin. It makes no sense that a sage mode person can hit the black stuff if their attacks are not infused with sage chakra. It erases all regular attacks infused with regular chakra, if it was only regular chakra, the attack would be stopped all the same. Naruto has no reason to not infuse his rasenshuriken. Your statement makes no sense.