kyubi isnt the strongest bijju

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We don't know that. There is alot of discussions going on right now about a debate between the tailed beasts. The Majority of the naruto fan base believed / assumed that the number tails represented the strength / chakra amount of the Bijuu. But as everyone has just realized that isn't true. So what does the Hachibi know about the 9 tails? And then you have to think that Minato only sealed half of the 9 tails into naruto? I've always questioned this, where is the other half? LOL...
When the 8 tails made that statement he was not talking about chakra he was talking about the 'Will of Fire" which got Naruto up to this point.

that's why the one tails hates the nine tails, beause he was thinking like Naruto even though he is WEAKER:cool:
 

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Okay. I'm gonna end this retarded debate AGAIN.

STRENGTH IS DETERMINED BY NUMBER OF TAILS NO MATTER WHAT THE HACHIBI SAID. The HACHIBI was doing a figurative and CORNY speech with all that "true strength comes from within" bullshit.

If you notice HERE.





Look on both pages, or just click the first one and go to the next page after reading it.

THIS SHIT IS SAID ALL THE TIME. We know to an extent, it's BULLSHIT.

Naruto can't even pass the graduation exam on just "not giving up".

Do you honestly think if Naruto had NO jutsu, he could ever beat Sasuke? Who has jutsu up the ass?

You guys forget this, if the Hachibi is strongest.



Why is it that the Hachibi got it's tentacle cut off, which, might i add, STILL has yet to grow back.... Yet the KYUUBI takes a bunch of more dangerous attacks head on...






I like how you guys only hear what the Hachibi said, and not the Kyuubi.

If neither one was sealed inside of a host, the Kyuubi would beat the Hachibi.

ALSO, Tailed Beast Bomb feats from the Kyuubi were able to rise above Hokage mountain at a DISTANCE, meaning that had that blast been aimed at Konoha when the Fourth diverted it, there would have been no more Konoha. The Hachibi has shown strong beast blasts, but it it took up a valley within Kumogakure that seem a little less widespread than the Hokage mountain.

The Kyuubi has almost unlimited chakra, and the regeneration factor which means that it can fight almost continuously. Naruto only won against the Kyuubi because inside of his subconscious, he can do things he CANNOT normally do, like have 100 Sage Clones.
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Most of you guys don't know how Death Repear Seal works, the Repear pulled the Yin chakra out of the fox and ate it. This cause the fox to become smaller before being sealed into Naruto. The only thing that was sealed permanently was the Yin chakra that was seal but the Fox is a living mass of chakra who was said to have near limitless chakra and can replenish its chakra. the 8 tails chakra was absorbed by samehada to the point Bee couldn't chase Kisame yet had it restored. The 8 tails lost it's tenicule before and Bee said don't worry it will grow back, that tenicule was absorbed by Akatsuki statue (forgot name lol). When the fox went 8 tails against Pain it was its normal size as it was before Minato sealed its Yin chakra. Here my best evindence, to make a tailed beast bomb you need to use both yin and yang chakra but if the fox only has its yang chakra in Naruto then he can't use tbb yet we see him use it. explain to me how this is possible. There is a big difference between pulling out chakra and sealing it and sealing it where it is. The fox yin chakra was pulled out and seal, it wasnt sealed from the fox. Orochimaru actually sealed the fox chakra from Naruto meaning Naruto couldn't access it until Jiraiya unsealed it. There was no sealing the Yin chakra from the fox, simply sealing the Yin chakra away because the whole fox was too much to seal into a new born baby and Minato was low on chakra. Gaara was sealed with the 1 tails while still in his mom womb and she died from it.
+rep. And its the Gedo Mazo statue=p
 

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When the 8 tails made that statement he was not talking about chakra he was talking about the 'Will of Fire" which got Naruto up to this point.

that's why the one tails hates the nine tails, beause he was thinking like Naruto even though he is WEAKER:cool:
Why does everyone keep saying this? It is pretty obvious the 8 tails wasn't talking about "true power lies within", I don't know where you got that idea from. It seems as you would rather agree with the arrogant 9 tails than the level headed 8 tails. Well, lets look at it from the Kyuubi's point of view. "If we are going by tails, you should be the second strongest, so hurry up and finnish them". The Kyuubi says this to the Hachibi because he was loosing against the other Bijuu's. The Kyuubi simply wanted the Hachibi to fight harder. If we go by what the Hachibi says, he thinks that the Hachibi can take on all of the other Bijuu easily by himself. From looking at the fight, it is obvious that was a lie. Now, the Hachibi knew he couldn't fight off all the Bijuu at once, which is why he reminded the Kyuubi that tails =/= power. What did the Kyuubi try to do after the Hachibi said this? Pretend to be asleep and couldn't hear him... pure arrogance from the Kyuubi yet again. We then get shown the 8 tails getting beat around some more. I don't know where people are getting this "true strength lies within" stuff from. You think the Hachibi was scared of fighting the other Bijuu because they had more true inner strength? You think the 1 tails hated the 9 tails because he believed he had more true inner strength in him? No, it was because the Kyuubi's logic puts the Shikaku at the bottom, and he knew it was false.
By the way, I wasn't aiming this at you personally OnTheMicWitMike, it was to everyone who thought this. I just used your quote as an example.
 
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Kyuubi is the strongest, which he said so himself and the Hachibi did not dispute after wards. I honestly don't know why we are even having a discussion on this....
 

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The plan fact is this, the fox is the strongest out of the 9 tailed beast, why you ask, forget the tails for a minute and think logic. Do you really think the 1st Hokage would give the other nations the strongest tailed beast or keep it for his village. The 1st Hokage only gave the other villages tailed beast to keep the balance of power do the other village don't gang up on the leaf. Some villages got 2 some got 1. The fox has more chakra then the rest but in the terms of beating the other tailed beasts there are other circumstance to take note of. Like strategy, control of ability, who they are sealed in.
 

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I just made a thread about this a little while ago and I think the way it works is that while half of his chakra was sealed away, the time that the 9 tails has spent inside Naruto was spent healing and replenishing itself. So I'm pretty sure that Kyuubis still the strongest
 

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Why does everyone keep saying this? It is pretty obvious the 8 tails wasn't talking about "true power lies within", I don't know where you got that idea from. It seems as you would rather agree with the arrogant 9 tails than the level headed 8 tails. Well, lets look at it from the Kyuubi's point of view. "If we are going by tails, you should be the second strongest, so hurry up and finnish them". The Kyuubi says this to the Hachibi because he was loosing against the other Bijuu's. The Kyuubi simply wanted the Hachibi to fight harder. If we go by what the Hachibi says, he thinks that the Hachibi can take on all of the other Bijuu easily by himself. From looking at the fight, it is obvious that was a lie. Now, the Hachibi knew he couldn't fight off all the Bijuu at once, which is why he reminded the Kyuubi that tails =/= power. What did the Kyuubi try to do after the Hachibi said this? Pretend to be asleep and couldn't hear him... pure arrogance from the Kyuubi yet again. We then get shown the 8 tails getting beat around some more. I don't know where people are getting this "true strength lies within" stuff from. You think the Hachibi was scared of fighting the other Bijuu because they had more true inner strength? You think the 1 tails hated the 9 tails because he believed he had more true inner strength in him? No, it was because the Kyuubi's logic puts the Shikaku at the bottom, and he knew it was false.
By the way, I wasn't aiming this at you personally OnTheMicWitMike, it was to everyone who thought this. I just used your quote as an example.
Well for me it seems more like the number of tails determines the raw power a bijuu has. If it doesnt why else would the kyubi assume its the strongest? The Hachibi was just trying to point out to the Kyubi that raw power alone a fight does not win.
 

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Well for me it seems more like the number of tails determines the raw power a bijuu has. If it doesnt why else would the kyubi assume its the strongest? The Hachibi was just trying to point out to the Kyubi that raw power alone a fight does not win.
I am 99.9% sure that the Kyuubi is the strongest Bijuu but that doesn't prove tails = power. People just jump to that conclusion.
 

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I think it's POSSIBLE but unlikely.

Minato sealed half of the Kyuubi knowing that Naruto needed it to fight Tobi, who is a greater threat than the Kyuubi.

This event somewhat hints that the Kyuubi is the greatest of the tailed beasts.

I would assume that once the chakra was split, Kyuubi got most of it. Even at half strength, it's got that near limitless chakra and regenerative factor.

The tailed beasts are strong, but they don't have jutsu like the Shinobi do in a sense that they don't use hand seals or any of that. It is just their chakra and special abilities that make them strong. The Kyuubi's strength, speed, chakra, and regenerative factor make it THAT much stronger than any tailed beast.
 

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It says strength not chakra, two different things. Naruto (base power) has more chakra then Sakura but she'll physically stronger then him (until sage mode). It was already said the tails are equal to chakra when comparing the tailed beast. Forgot where tho.
there is no point in having more chakra if u dont have the strength to unleash it all. second of all, he meant strength as in general, not like muscles and stuff. plus it doesnt really matter who the stronger tailed beast is. they are all on the same side naturally. but i agree that not all of the nine tails was sealed. proof is that monk (srry forgot name) in one of the shippuden episodes that became naruto's friend. he had some of the beast harvested in him.
 

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tbh the thing about minato sealing half of the kyubi chakra inside naruto hasnt really been followed through, all of the characters have only ever talked about the kyubi as it being at full power (all of its chakra sealed inside naruto) since the chapter where naruto and minato meet and minato explained about when he sealed it, there has never been a real explaination about how that effected naruto at all, all that was said was that it would be to much strain on naruto's body even though kushina and every other kyubi jinchuriki before naruto has had all of the kyubi chakra inside them. So it was kind of pointless even mentioning it in the manga.
 

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Plus even though the kyuubi lost some of it's chakra, it is stated that if a bijuu is defeated, it doesn't really go away. It is just weak, and over time the chakra of the bijuu will just regenerate, so even if Minato sealed some of it's chakra away, I'm sure it has recovered most if not all of the chakra that it lost.
 
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