Kushina and Karin the most powerful females

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None of them apparently lmao, what is she going to do seal all her opponents? She got her props but she is not a top fighter, never portrayed as such never will be cuz she's dead.

Her biggest Utility is being a vessel. Several ninja kage included cannot seal a Bijuu that for sure murder these two
I can't disagree with facts.
 

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They have not much feats unfortunately. There is room for others where Sakura Tsunade Temari etc stand. Noone should be mad.

Karin is cool, Kushina literally got a bijuu extracted and got up still held out and did work for a decent time after AND she just delivered a child. Need anyone say more :)

Kishi had a set of amazing women in the series, Shame he had to keep them in the shadow of the men.

To call them the most powerful would be in denial of their lack of feats. Them having a technique that can take out large targets doesn't make them the strongest to me.
I think I explained what I mean by most powerful. I didn't say the strongest in battle .

Anyway do Tsunade ,Sakura or Temari have power to do what I asked ?

1. power to solo minature version of Shinsusenju ?

2. power to restrain full Kurama ?

3. can they create barrier so strong that not even Hiruzen (man who knows every jutsu in Konoha) can break it. ?
 

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None of them apparently lmao, what is she going to do seal all her opponents? She got her props but she is not a top fighter, never portrayed as such never will be cuz she's dead.

Her biggest Utility is being a vessel. Several ninja kage included cannot seal a Bijuu that for sure murder these two
Kushina beat a Bijuu while dying, her Chains > Kurama = Perfect Susano'O

>Bind with Bijuu-restraining Chains
>Use other chains to kill (like what Karin did)

Simple.
 

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I think I explained what I mean by most powerful. I didn't say the strongest in battle .

Anyway do Tsunade ,Sakura or Temari have power to do what I asked ?

1. power to solo minature version of Shinsusenju ?

2. power to restrain full Kurama ?

3. can they create barrier so strong that not even Hiruzen (man who knows every jutsu in Konoha) can break it. ?
I don't think so.

They don't have any ranged attacks so they'll squashed.

The rest two are simply out of the question.
 

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Kushina beat a Bijuu while dying, her Chains > Kurama = Perfect Susano'O

>Bind with Bijuu-restraining Chains
>Use other chains to kill (like what Karin did)

Simple.
Nice fanfic :lmao: you do give me a good laugh.
Kurama has pretty much been solo'd by everybody who tried to capture it and use it except kin and Jin.

The chakra chains are an A rank Hiden, fuinn, barrier jutsu.
 
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Nice fanfic :lmao: you do give me a good laugh.
Kurama has pretty much been solo'd by everybody who tried to capture it and use it excel kin and Jin.

The chakra chains are an A rank Hiden, fuinn, barrier jutsu.
Kurama was solod by characters that have special power that allow them to control / bind it.They never actually defeated it and they don't have power to do so except Hashirama.

Madara / Obito / thanks to Sharingan.

Hashirama thanks to Mokuton ability.

Kushina thanks to Uzmaki chains.

No female will be able to do to Kurama what Kushina did.
 

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Kurama was solod by characters that have special power that allow them to control / bind it.They never actually defeated it and they don't have power to do so except Hashirama.

Madara / Obito / thanks to Sharingan.

Hashirama thanks to Mokuton ability.

Kushina thanks to Uzmaki chains.

No female will be able to do to Kurama what Kushina did.
Thats debatable since it's A rank, hidden, barrier, fuinn jutsu and not a kekkei Genkai as stated by the databook. Actually all of those with special powers that have tried to solo it can solo it some even turned it into their pet so it's not really an issue.
 

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Nice fanfic :lmao: you do give me a good laugh.
Kurama has pretty much been solo'd by everybody who tried to capture it and use it except kin and Jin.

The chakra chains are an A rank Hiden, fuinn, barrier jutsu.
And all those people had Wood Style, Sharingan, or Chakra Chains, all which come from Kaguya :lol

Yet Sakura with all her S-rank greatness can't even beat Juubi Clones let alone a Bijuu. I guess Kushina is just that great to turn a simple A-rank technique into a Bijuu destroyer. Hopefully we see more Chakra Chain feats from Karin, Himawari, and Salad in the future.
 

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Thats debatable since it's A rank, hidden, barrier, fuinn jutsu and not a kekkei Genkai as stated by the databook. Actually all of those with special powers that have tried to solo it can solo it some even turned it into their pet so it's not really an issue.

Rank is irrelevant it says how hard jutsu is to learn not how strong it is

Here are examples

Because Chidori is A rank and it barely pierced Raikage body.


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While Nukite is B rank yet it pierced Raikage body like butter.

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Might Gai Evening Elephant is A rank its clear it doesn't reffer to strength of jutsu.

Kurama was turned into a pet by people who actually have unique power to do . No other female except Kushina have power to do that.

4 Tails version 2 Kurama almost killed Jiraiya

Jiraiya >> Tsunade ,Sakura ,Temari combined.

So those 3 females get obliterated by full thing.
 
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And all those people had Wood Style, Sharingan, or Chakra Chains, all which come from Kaguya :lol

Yet Sakura with all her S-rank greatness can't even beat Juubi Clones let alone a Bijuu. I guess Kushina is just that great to turn a simple A-rank technique into a Bijuu destroyer.
The first 2 are a kekkei Genkai the 3rd isn't listed as such but as an A rank, Hiden, Barrier, fuinn jutsu. He was bound a techniques which has the specific purpose of binding hardly a feat of combat. Sakura is irrelevant to the discussion of a fuinn jutsu as is Hinata which is why I'm not bringer her into it either.

Ps. I like kushina so it's not really an issue for me either way.
 

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The first 2 are a kekkei Genkai the 3rd isn't listed as such but as an A rank, Hiden, Barrier, fuinn jutsu.
What's your point? This is the third time you're saying this.
He was bound a techniques which has the specific purpose of binding hardly a feat of combat.
It shows anyone who is weaker than Kurama/EMS SusnaoO isn't doing shit to Kushina. And she can use her chains for combat as shown by Karin.
Sakura is irrelevant to the discussion of a fuinn jutsu as is Hinata which is why I'm not bringer her into it either.
You're using ranks as a means of devaluing Kushina's feats, yet S-rank users like Sakura are still weaker than her. Bottom line: Yes, Kushina and Karin, if she has mastered the chains, are in fact among the most powerful kunochi.
 

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Rank is irrelevant it says how hard jutsu is to teach not how strong it is

Here are examples

Because Chidori is A rank and it barely pierced Raikage body.


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While Nukite is B rank yet it pierced Raikage body like butter.

You must be registered for see images

Might Gai Evening Elephant is A rank its clear it doesn't reffer to strength of jutsu.

Kurama was turned into a pet by people who actually have unique power to do . No other female except Kushina have power to do that.

4 Tails version 2 Kurama almost killed Jiraiya

Jiraiya >> Tsunade ,Sakura ,Temari combined.

So those 3 females get obliterated by full thing.
Apples and oranges base Nukite is just that B rank difficulty to learn, raikage increases it's strength with every finger so it's power is unknown.

Kurama clan version is different to released kurama, Kurama's cloak is poisonous and concentrated mass of chakra, full kurama isn't that so the simultude is non existent. Kurama is butthurt because he's always been the ***** of humans, like I said it's an A rank, Hiden, Barrier, fuinn jutsu there exists the potential for others to learn it. Kurama was bound by a jutsu which has the specific power of binding it, that isn't a feat in and of itself.
 

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Apples and oranges base Nukite is just that B rank difficulty to learn, raikage increases it's strength with every finger so it's power is unknown.

Kurama clan version is different to released kurama, Kurama's cloak is poisonous and concentrated mass of chakra, full kurama isn't that so the simultude is non existent. Kurama is butthurt because he's always been the ***** of humans, like I said it's an A rank, Hiden, Barrier, fuinn jutsu there exists the potential for others to learn it. Kurama was bound by a jutsu which has the specific power of binding it, that isn't a feat in and of itself.
That is irrelevant point is no other female can do what Kushina did.
 

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What's your point? This is the third time you're saying this.
The point is there exists potential to learn it if it's not a kekkei Genkai.
It shows anyone who is weaker than Kurama/EMS SusnaoO isn't doing shit to Kushina. And she can use her chains for combat as shown by Karin.
It doesnt work that way himans opperate under different parameters to tailed beast and inanimate objects.

[AUOTE]You're using ranks as a means of devaluing Kushina's feats, yet S-rank users like Sakura are still weaker than her. Bottom line: Yes, Kushina and Karin, if she has mastered the chains, are in fact among the most powerful kunochi.[/QUOTE]

Not at all what I'm implying by rank is the potential for others to learn it exists. If it's not a kekkei Genkai since it's a ranked Hiden Barrier fuinn jutsu.

Not really true regarding Sakura or other human females since humans don't operate under the same parameters as tailed beasts and inanimate objects. So to apply ABC logic doesn't work here.
 

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The point is there exists potential to learn it if it's not a kekkei Genkai.
Nope it is KKG since Karin awakened it, not learned it. And before you yank out the DB, Hashirama is said to not have Yin Style even though he is Genjutsu user and Obito isn't listed a user of Six Paths Senjutsu :lol

Manga takes priority over DB.

It doesnt work that way himans opperate under different parameters to tailed beast and inanimate objects.

No they don't. What Kushina did against Kurama can be done against any human until you can show me where anywhere in the manga these fanfic parameters you're making up, as always, are said to exist to begin with.
 

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I think I explained what I mean by most powerful. I didn't say the strongest in battle .

Anyway do Tsunade ,Sakura or Temari have power to do what I asked ?

1. power to solo minature version of Shinsusenju ?

2. power to restrain full Kurama ?

3. can they create barrier so strong that not even Hiruzen (man who knows every jutsu in Konoha) can break it. ?
That would be like me asking if Kushina and Karin and heal hundreds of people at once lol or use Fuuton strong enough to level a forest it's a tilt but it doesn't cover everything. Only what I want to be selective about.

All considered they aren't the most powerful. They can have strong life force and chains lol but they're not.
 

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Kushina beat a Bijuu while dying, her Chains > Kurama = Perfect Susano'O

>Bind with Bijuu-restraining Chains
>Use other chains to kill (like what Karin did)

Simple.
She did not beat a Bijuu, she sealed it. Kurama infact mangled them, sealing techniques just remove the issue that is too much for the user to deal with otherwise.

Impressive but she is not stronger than a Bijuu lol let's just iron that out

Chains didn't even give Karin the win over zetsu lmao they're evidently good at big targets though -shrug-
 

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That would be like me asking if Kushina and Karin and heal hundreds of people at once lol or use Fuuton strong enough to level a forest it's a tilt but it doesn't cover everything. Only what I want to be selective about.

All considered they aren't the most powerful. They can have strong life force and chains lol but they're not.
No its not because soloing Kurama is better feat than anything those 3 can do.You can be selective as much as you wont they don't have feats comparable to those 3 thing I mentioned.
 
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