Kurama said she recognizes Madara's chakra, yet...

[Chatte]

Possible spoiler: Kurama said he recognizes Madara's chakra, yet...

... it seems like not?

I mean 16 years ago, it was said that Madara was the one who made Kurama attack the hidden village, right? This is the story presented to us at the beginning.

Later on, we find out that behind this whole attack was Madara Uchiha.
Later later on, in Shipuuden, we are shown that Tobi was actually the one who was after Kushina, he was the one breaking the seal.

Soo, I know this might be annoying that it's another thread that implies Tobi.

But this is a weird thing.

Kurama is supposed to recognize Madara's chakra after she had contact with him, meaning 16 years ago.

Actually 16 years ago Tobi was the one who controlled it.

Yet, on the batterfield she recognizes Madara's chakra, even though, practically it was supposed that it never met him, since Tobi was there.

Does it mean that Tobi is Madara somewhat or a clone of his? Somewhat like Zetsu clone? Since, if I am not wrong, Zetsu is the one copying the chakra patterns as well? That's why they are close, maybe?

Anyway, I didn't mean to do 'yet another Tobi thread' but this idea just came in my mind while doing a sandwich, lol.

It is pretty interesting detail, I may say. And I don't think Kishi would pass through that.

I mean same chakra, 2 different people.

So, once again, it wasn't my intention to do another Tobi thread, I just wanted to share my thoughts with you.

And yes, I looked before for a thread like this and showed me none.

LE: I edited the title. The rest I'll just leave it like that.

 

[Ryuu..]

Yes exactly, it implies Tobi is of or comes from Madara; a clone of some sort, as you said. +rep. However, Madara did use Kurama before so.....

 

[izinagi54]

incorrect madara used him in a fight with harishima he may have "recongnized" madara clone or dare i say SON!

 

[Hellstab]

Maybe Tobi has some of Madara´s chakra (like Danzo had some of Hashirama).

 

[Wakizashi]

... it seems like not?

I mean 16 years ago, it was said that Madara was the one who made Kurama attack the hidden village, right? This is the story presented to us at the beginning.

Later on, we find out that behind this whole attack was Madara Uchiha.
Later later on, in Shipuuden, we are shown that Tobi was actually the one who was after Kushina, he was the one breaking the seal.

Soo, I know this might be annoying that it's another thread that implies Tobi.

But this is a weird thing.

Kurama is supposed to recognize Madara's chakra after she had contact with him, meaning 16 years ago.

Actually 16 years ago Tobi was the one who controlled it.

Yet, on the batterfield she recognizes Madara's chakra, even though, practically it was supposed that it never met him, since Tobi was there.

Does it mean that Tobi is Madara somewhat or a clone of his? Somewhat like Zetsu clone? Since, if I am not wrong, Zetsu is the one copying the chakra patterns as well? That's why they are close, maybe?

Anyway, I didn't mean to do 'yet another Tobi thread' but this idea just came in my mind while doing a sandwich, lol.

It is pretty interesting detail, I may say. And I don't think Kishi would pass through that.

I mean same chakra, 2 different people.

So, once again, it wasn't my intention to do another Tobi thread, I just wanted to share my thoughts with you.

And yes, I looked before for a thread like this and showed me none.

this is something that was racking my brain. but since you found a way to put it in words i'll give you the +rep for it!!

 

[MacMiller]

Kurama is a girl?

 

[narutorikudoumode]

just one thing kurama is a male

 

[Wakizashi]

Kurama is a girl?

i don't think so. if so that girl has very deep voice

 

[Sasuke2]

Kurama is male ...

 

[Kira was Righteous]

I believe Kurama said you to tobi and didnt say his name

Madara summoned Kyubbi vs Hashirama and when he tryed summoning the kyubii inside naruro he/she went beserk

 

[Chatte]

Yes exactly, it implies Tobi is of or comes from Madara; a clone of some sort, as you said. +rep. However, Madara did use Kurama before so.....

Thanks for the rep, first of all.
Hmm, forgot about the details that he used Kurama before. So that's why it was somewhat a curious detail for me.
But I do remember - if I remember correct, mind might be tricking me, lol, that she recognized his chakra and something that she felt it or something like that, right before being sealed in Naruto. It was somewhere in the anime, if I remember correct - since I first started to watch the anime.

incorrect madara used him in a fight with harishima he may have "recongnized" madara clone or dare i say SON!

Isn't he a she? Lol, anyway, doesn't matter.
If it's incorrect, I appologise, as I previosly said, I forgot about that detail.
Hmm he might be the son, the clone, God knows what Kishi's thinking, lol.

Maybe Tobi has some of Madara´s chakra (like Danzo had some of Hashirama).

That might be possible as well. We'll just have to wait for Kishi to reveal that for us, hehe.

Thanks for your opinions, everyone!

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Ok I hate to say it but get back in the kitchen because kurama is a DUDE....lol JK but I don't get what you are trying to say since I don't remember kurama(A FUCCKING DUDE) saying he sensed Madara's chakra at the attacking and killing his patents thing...

 

[Chatte]

this is something that was racking my brain. but since you found a way to put it in words i'll give you the +rep for it!!

Thank you very much.
It is funny because this thing was actually coming to my mind while I was making a sandwich. Lol, even when I eat I think of Naruto.

Kurama is a girl?

Oh, sorry, I thought it might be a girl since in my language fox is a feminine gender. Sorry for that.

just one thing kurama is a male

Got it, got it, sorry.

i don't think so. if so that girl has very deep voice

Hehe "She" might have some vocals problems, lol.

Kurama is male ...

Got that, sorry once again.

I believe Kurama said you to tobi and didnt say his name

Madara summoned Kyubbi vs Hashirama and when he tryed summoning the kyubii inside naruro he/she went beserk

Uhm I am afraid I don't fully understand your statement. The first part of it.
And regarding the Madara vs. Hashirama part, yeah, I got that. Forgot about that thing, sorry once again.

Well, Kurama is kind of beserk, hehe.
I wonder how it will be portayed now since both of them are getting along - I mean Naruto and him. Lol it's so weird for me to imagine it as a him, lol. But anyway.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Madara used kurama when fighting against hashirama.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Good point. But FYI... they never knew it WASNT madara who attacked them at Naruto's birth. So if they saw "Tobi"s chakra... and THOUGHT Tobi was Madara at that time... when she recognizes "his" chakra of course she would call it Madaras. Thats who they originially THOUGHT it was. Just a FYI.



-gHost Senju

 

[Chatte]

Ok I hate to say it but get back in the kitchen because kurama is a DUDE....lol JK but I don't get what you are trying to say since I don't remember kurama(A FUCCKING DUDE) saying he sensed Madara's chakra at the attacking and killing his patents thing...

Yeah yeah, got the Kurama is a boy thing, sorry once again for that, I explained previously why it seemed to me a girl.

And, the next of your statement let me make it more clear.

When Naruto comes in the batterfield and there is Madara, Kurama senses his chakra, remember? And for the first time it lends him(Naruto) willingly his chakra.
Did I made myself clear or I need to explain it in more detail? Since I tried to make it real short...

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Yeah yeah, got the Kurama is a boy thing, sorry once again for that, I explained previously why it seemed to me a girl.

And, the next of your statement let me make it more clear.

When Naruto comes in the batterfield and there is Madara, Kurama senses his chakra, remember? And for the first time it lends him(Naruto) willingly his chakra.
Did I made myself clear or I need to explain it in more detail? Since I tried to make it real short...

Remember the fight with Madara and 1st Hokage??

 

[Chatte]

Good point. But FYI... they never knew it WASNT madara who attacked them at Naruto's birth. So if they saw "Tobi"s chakra... and THOUGHT Tobi was Madara at that time... when she recognizes "his" chakra of course she would call it Madaras. Thats who they originially THOUGHT it was. Just a FYI.



-gHost Senju

Well, that's what they always said, that Madara was the one controlling Kurama to attack the village. :shrug:

But you are right about the fact that they didn't knew it wasn't Madara.

But the thing is Kurama's feeling the real Madara's chakra when Naruto arrives on the batterfield...

 

[klikzord]

... it seems like not?

I mean 16 years ago, it was said that Madara was the one who made Kurama attack the hidden village, right? This is the story presented to us at the beginning.

Later on, we find out that behind this whole attack was Madara Uchiha.
Later later on, in Shipuuden, we are shown that Tobi was actually the one who was after Kushina, he was the one breaking the seal.

Soo, I know this might be annoying that it's another thread that implies Tobi.

But this is a weird thing.

Kurama is supposed to recognize Madara's chakra after she had contact with him, meaning 16 years ago.

Actually 16 years ago Tobi was the one who controlled it.

Yet, on the batterfield she recognizes Madara's chakra, even though, practically it was supposed that it never met him, since Tobi was there.

Does it mean that Tobi is Madara somewhat or a clone of his? Somewhat like Zetsu clone? Since, if I am not wrong, Zetsu is the one copying the chakra patterns as well? That's why they are close, maybe?

Anyway, I didn't mean to do 'yet another Tobi thread' but this idea just came in my mind while doing a sandwich, lol.

It is pretty interesting detail, I may say. And I don't think Kishi would pass through that.

I mean same chakra, 2 different people.

So, once again, it wasn't my intention to do another Tobi thread, I just wanted to share my thoughts with you.

And yes, I looked before for a thread like this and showed me none.

Kurama doesn't recognize Madara Chakra when was Tobi use him for two motives:
-first, could be or not Madara.
-second, They will not reveal his identity so easily.

Another thing, Kurama before the battle between Madara and Hashirama( long before the kuuybi attack the village) was captured and humiliated by Madara. It was in that moment that Kurama learned about his Chakra.

 

[Chatte]

Remember the fight with Madara and 1st Hokage??

Yes, yes, I know that Kurama might recognize his chakra from there.
If that's what you wanted to say.

But at the point I made that connection I just forgot about this detail and just wanted to share the thing with you guys.