Kumo/Konoha War Discussion thread

[Kurisutina]

People.

chill.

Flaming won't lead us anywhere.

Lets resume the issues that need to be looked upon:

1-Lok's attack on the village killing all bios that weren't participating in events and destroying the village- Valid or not?

2-Xanthe's counter = his death, Valid or not?

3-don't think there is none

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1-May i suggest getting some outside mods/senseis opinions on it?

2-I have asked Mathias, Kirabi, Akihiko to check it. Its being rechecked and reevaluated to see if i'm right or if Xanthe's counter actually works. As soon as a veridict is found, I'll post it. If i'm wrong, I'll apologize directly to Xanthe.

Here is my argument.

-Gen.
-Water forms around me (I think it's Earth)
-I go underground, in the ground below me
-He shoots lightning at it.

How was I hit by it? Why can't I go underground from a jutsu that forms in the air around me?

 

[Lili-Chwan]

The second war was the one where Kiri betrayed everyone, right?

Indeed. Good on paper, not so good in action. Still fun nonetheless xD

 

[Littlefinger.]

My complaint:
Why can't these "2nd bios" defend themselves? It's not our fault that they're not in battles. You guys said you wanted 1v1 battles cuz it's easier to judge. Then why are there SY rules? I believe the issue that we cannot engage you guys in at least 2v1 battles is BS.
Consider these scenerio:
Madara vs 5 Kages
Nagato vs Itachi, Naruto and Killer Bee
Tobi vs Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, Shino, Hinata and Kiba.
Sasori vs Sakura and Chiyo
Deidara vs Team 7 and Guy's team
Jiraiya vs 6 Paths of Pain
Sasuke vs Yamato, Naruto, Sai and Sakura
Obito vs Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi
etcetera etcetera

What I mean is that in wars, these 1v1 are unfair at times.
Imagine Madara fighting the 5 kages 1 after another. He'd have killed them in a few minutes.

Now look at it now in this war.
Konoha attacked Kumo. Konoha is now dictating the way we fight them.
It doesn't make sense. BS! If 2 kumo nins intercept you, switch to SY rules and continue. Don't say they should wait. If you are stronger than 1 of them, at least the 2 of them can hold off. When you are fighting them on a 1v1. It's so simple cuz you are stronger. You kill the first one and kill the second. Simple! Then you use an OP jutsu to destroy the village when no one else is allowed to counter except the person you are fighting. How does he counter a jutsu that is meant for the whole village. That's even a bigger BS! If a range reaches Long, I thought it is meant to be 15m? But now it is seemingly used to bring down a whole village.

This means Swamp of the Underworld can cover a whole village?
Majestic Fire Annihilation can wipe out a whole village?

If we are going by this then any technique that has Long range extends to infinity?

In wiki, it states that Karin's Mind's Eye of the Kagura can extend even to tens of kilometers, she can sense negative emotions and can also tell when she is in a gen. I have always restricted her to Chakra Sensing. If I use Mind's Eye of the Kagura, I can see sh*t more than the byakugan which can see only up to 100m. Well, from now I'll be using my Karin to the fullest. So don't be suprised when I spy on ya'll villages from the comfort of my village.

Now, what I want is this.
1. If anyone is using a tech that will affect the whole village, allow everyone to defend if one person cannot defend for the whole village. Don't restrict it to the person you are fighting in a 1v1 battle.
2. Don't assume things. Don't say because you used this or that, everyone of this set of people died. It makes no sense. If I form a swamp that is long range in Konoha, it doesn't affect every single person in the whole village does it? Or would I just say everyone that didn't see me when I arrived sinks. It makes no sense.
3. If you attack a village, you have no right to tell them how to attack you. They should either choose to engage their attackers in 1v1 battles or 2v1(2v1 so that the burden on senseis and mods for checking fights is lessened)
4. If your jutsu is just long then don't improvise it and make it used to wipe out a whole village. A whole village is not an alley or a street where you can just throw a stone from one end to another. If you have an S or F rank tech that extends to long range, it cannot take out a village. Take Kirin for instance. S rank, short to long range. Don't think it can wipe out a complete village. IT CAN'T. Sasuke use it as long range and it only destroyed Itachi's hideout. If it is able to wipe out a village then it should have gotten to where Kisame, Juugo, Suigetsu and Karin were waiting. That's how large a village is! And also, most jutsus that are capable of taking out a complete village start at the center so that the destruction is balanced. You can't just be at one end and use a technique that just keeps going to infinity guys!
Now look at Shinra Tensei:

(Shinra Tensei) - Divine Punishment
Rank: S Type: Supplementary/Defense/ Attack Range: Short-Long Chakra: 40 (+20 for mid size, +40 for large scale) Damage: 80 (+20 for mid size, +40 for large scale) Description: Manipulate gravity to repulse matter away from the user, with such force that it can easily shatter stone. By using this technique as a defensive measure, most if not all attacks directed to the user
will be deflected, no matter the size or mass. The greatest example of its defensive might was from its ability to effortlessly deflect the Wind Release: Rasenshuriken, a jutsu with power considered beyond S-rank. The ability can be used on individuals, by directing the arm toward another person, or around the user in the form of a perfect wave that repels all incoming attacks. Note: If the user uses it on a regular scale they may not use it the following turn, if used for
the mid scale they may not use it for 2 turns, if the user uses it on the large scale they may not use it again for 5 turns and they lose 40% of their life Note: Useable up to 4 times per battle.

@bolds and underline, you see how much strain a technique that does so much puts on the user?

If we recall, when Deva Path used this, he was just standing, recuperating for 5 turns. In our rp, someone uses an S or F ranked tech to take down a village and is using another F or S rank in the same or next turn! WTF???

Please, let's come to an agreement in this war.

 

[McRazor]

The thing behind the move that I used is that you don't see it MATERIALIZING, all you see is it MATERIALIZED. It's too fast to be evaded and by it's solid structure, it restricts your movement just enough to make sure you don't go anywhere. As the techniques states, it can't be compressed to actually do any damage. Now how is it that fast? Let's do the math.

A 100m[SUP]3[/SUP] cube needs a few seconds, according to Scorps, the creator of the technique, 4-5 seconds. Now, a 3m[SUP]3[/SUP] cube is 33x smaller, meaning that it takes 33x less time to form. If you divide 5 with 33 you get 0,15 seconds. If you think that you can pull out a move that quickly then I'm sorry, and I'll continue my move.

Suiton: Sono Tenrai Kara no Mizu | Water Release: The Bliss of Water
Type: Supplementary/Defensive
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: 40
Damage: N/A
Description:
With 2 simple hand seals (Snake + Ram), the user will materialize water within range of the technique, using the moisture all around the field and his chakra as a fuel. The water can be shaped into any given solid construct the user desires (like cubes, spheres, walls, etc) or kept as a raw body of water. The amount of water the user can produce is, at its best, about 10 000 liters of water (give or take a cube of about 100m3). However, the speed as which the water forms is always the same, taking a couple of seconds to materialize its maximum volume. The user has some control over the water while its materializing and once it materializes, but he can never generate enough momentum or compress it enough to actually do any harm to any enemy, even when he gives it a specific shape.

Note: Can only be taught by Scorps
Note2: Doesn't require a water source and can be used as one
Note3: Usable only thrice
Note4: In the same turn the user can't use techniques above S-Rank

 

[Lord of Kaos]

About LoK's attack:

I thought there was a rule or something that stated you can't kill a bio that's not actually in this thread... If not, you guys (admins/mods) should make us all a favor and create it...

The way I see it, things happen like this:

On "the point" thread, DM mentioned every Kumo nin has a headset communication device, as seen in the anime. As we have multiple Byakugan and sharingan users scaning the area, + My second Mizukage bio used sensor rain jutsu some time ago, every ninja in the village would be aware of what was about to happen, and use a possible counter (for example raiton plasma ball), so, for the sake of not arguing, let's say LoK did explode a small portion of the village, and the only casualties were non ninja civilians. And I say a small portion, as, Kumo is consisted of multiple mountains, so it would be impossible to make them all explode with a single jutsu.

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Or, scenario No2, every single person in Kumo, who was fully aware of the incoming attack can simultaneously attack LoK in the according time-frame. If he directs his attack to everyone, it's only fare to have everyone attack him, isn't it? That would be about 20 F rank jutsu... >_>

It wouldn't be a small portion, as I specifically used a jutsu that spreads massive amounts of chakra throughout the earth, using it twice to spread even more chakra through the earth, which would undoubtedly include your mountains. The picture shows that Kumo is majority of mountains, with that looks to be little walking ground space, so the chakra wouldn't be channeled to the ground, but instead the mountains because that's all it appears to be.

Even with your headsets, the two jutsus I used both take one handseal and happen quickly. You might argue against the speed of them both, but they were approved during a time that many OPed jutsus that happen near instantly were approved. Talking through the headsets require at least two seconds to say something as small as "There is doton chakra in the ground!". Within those two seconds, I'd have already been and made the earth explode. I can see those who can see the chakra themselves defending within time, but those unable to see the chakra would require time to find out about it, and then counter. And how do you determine the casualties would only effect non ninja civilians? Non ninja or not, they'd still have to be aware of the chakra in the earth before they can counter it. I only said the secondary bios are dead because if my attack goes through, then the mountains would explode and that would be sure to kill someone caught in it.

And I directly my attack at your village, not the villagers. You were just in the aftermath of the explosion. I don't assume that the bios are dead unless a defense isn't posed. Better's cloud jutsu is in effect over the village, as he stated. It didn't effect battles that were going on at the time, neither does my attack. I'm all for peaceful discussion on whether or not these things happen or not.

 

[Geezus]

Has decided to end the war by Bijuu bombing everything.

 

[Typhon]

Indeed. Good on paper, not so good in action. Still fun nonetheless xD

It might have actually worked too, had it not been for every single person in the war randomly getting reverse summoned out of Kumo by their animal contracts....

 

[Scorps]

Has decided to end the war by Bijuu bombing everything.

*grabs you with wood branches and brings you back to our thread*

not to fast mister... >_>

 

[Necron]

It wouldn't be a small portion, as I specifically used a jutsu that spreads massive amounts of chakra throughout the earth, using it twice to spread even more chakra through the earth, which would undoubtedly include your mountains. The picture shows that Kumo is majority of mountains, with that looks to be little walking ground space, so the chakra wouldn't be channeled to the ground, but instead the mountains because that's all it appears to be.

Even with your headsets, the two jutsus I used both take one handseal and happen quickly. You might argue against the speed of them both, but they were approved during a time that many OPed jutsus that happen near instantly were approved. Talking through the headsets require at least two seconds to say something as small as "There is doton chakra in the ground!". Within those two seconds, I'd have already been and made the earth explode. I can see those who can see the chakra themselves defending within time, but those unable to see the chakra would require time to find out about it, and then counter. And how do you determine the casualties would only effect non ninja civilians? Non ninja or not, they'd still have to be aware of the chakra in the earth before they can counter it. I only said the secondary bios are dead because if my attack goes through, then the mountains would explode and that would be sure to kill someone caught in it.

And I directly my attack at your village, not the villagers. You were just in the aftermath of the explosion. I don't assume that the bios are dead unless a defense isn't posed. Better's cloud jutsu is in effect over the village, as he stated. It didn't effect battles that were going on at the time, neither does my attack. I'm all for peaceful discussion on whether or not these things happen or not.

Better's cloud spread all over the village, so basically, if there is any of your people in the village (or any clones) they are now dead. Most fights are taking place below the village, that's why the cloud did not affect them. Now, if a ninja of our village used the cloud at ground level, all of you would only have 5 turns to live... That's also the "aftermath" of using this jutsu. Also, whoever is flying towards Kumo (thus, is at the same level as the clouds), is also affected.

 

[Igneel]

The thing behind the move that I used is that you don't see it MATERIALIZING, all you see is it MATERIALIZED. It's too fast to be evaded and by it's solid structure, it restricts your movement just enough to make sure you don't go anywhere. As the techniques states, it can't be compressed to actually do any damage. Now how is it that fast? Let's do the math.

A 100m[SUP]3[/SUP] cube needs a few seconds, according to Scorps, the creator of the technique, 4-5 seconds. Now, a 3m[SUP]3[/SUP] cube is 33x smaller, meaning that it takes 33x less time to form. If you divide 5 with 33 you get 0,15 seconds. If you think that you can pull out a move that quickly then I'm sorry, and I'll continue my move.

Suiton: Sono Tenrai Kara no Mizu | Water Release: The Bliss of Water
Type: Supplementary/Defensive
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: 40
Damage: N/A
Description:
With 2 simple hand seals (Snake + Ram), the user will materialize water within range of the technique, using the moisture all around the field and his chakra as a fuel. The water can be shaped into any given solid construct the user desires (like cubes, spheres, walls, etc) or kept as a raw body of water. The amount of water the user can produce is, at its best, about 10 000 liters of water (give or take a cube of about 100m3). However, the speed as which the water forms is always the same, taking a couple of seconds to materialize its maximum volume. The user has some control over the water while its materializing and once it materializes, but he can never generate enough momentum or compress it enough to actually do any harm to any enemy, even when he gives it a specific shape.

Note: Can only be taught by Scorps
Note2: Doesn't require a water source and can be used as one
Note3: Usable only thrice
Note4: In the same turn the user can't use techniques above S-Rank

His move is shady,I agree.

But 0.15 sec,seriously.Thats faster that FTG in a sense?
I have a jutsu that lets you travel 10m in the blink of an eye thats 1/600th of a second,around 0.0016 sec.That makes my move faster than gates by your logic.

 

[McRazor]

His move is shady,I agree.

But 0.15 sec,seriously.Thats faster that FTG in a sense?
I have a jutsu that lets you travel 10m in the blink of an eye thats 1/600th of a second,around 0.0016 sec.That makes my move faster than gates by your logic.

Well, it's just math and numbers. But we can all agree that the move is really fast. That's what matters.

 

[Necron]

His move is shady,I agree.

But 0.15 sec,seriously.Thats faster that FTG in a sense?
I have a jutsu that lets you travel 10m in the blink of an eye thats 1/600th of a second,around 0.0016 sec.That makes my move faster than gates by your logic.

I love that jutsu

Ah, and to be mentioned that, the said jutsu can be perceved with the sharingan, so LoK, yours is too

Well, it's just math and numbers. But we can all agree that the move is really fast. That's what matters.

and yet, not fast enough to prevent a sensor for saying "guys, guard yourselves"

 

[Lord of Kaos]

If I end up double posting, my mistakes. I assume someone will have posted by the time I'm doing with my reply.

My complaint:
Why can't these "2nd bios" defend themselves? It's not our fault that they're not in battles. You guys said you wanted 1v1 battles cuz it's easier to judge. Then why are there SY rules? I believe the issue that we cannot engage you guys in at least 2v1 battles is BS.
Consider these scenerio:
Madara vs 5 Kages
Nagato vs Itachi, Naruto and Killer Bee
Tobi vs Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, Shino, Hinata and Kiba.
Sasori vs Sakura and Chiyo
Deidara vs Team 7 and Guy's team
Jiraiya vs 6 Paths of Pain
Sasuke vs Yamato, Naruto, Sai and Sakura
Obito vs Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi
etcetera etcetera

What I mean is that in wars, these 1v1 are unfair at times.
Imagine Madara fighting the 5 kages 1 after another. He'd have killed them in a few minutes.

Now look at it now in this war.
Konoha attacked Kumo. Konoha is now dictating the way we fight them.
It doesn't make sense. BS! If 2 kumo nins intercept you, switch to SY rules and continue. Don't say they should wait. If you are stronger than 1 of them, at least the 2 of them can hold off. When you are fighting them on a 1v1. It's so simple cuz you are stronger. You kill the first one and kill the second. Simple! Then you use an OP jutsu to destroy the village when no one else is allowed to counter except the person you are fighting. How does he counter a jutsu that is meant for the whole village. That's even a bigger BS! If a range reaches Long, I thought it is meant to be 15m? But now it is seemingly used to bring down a whole village.

This means Swamp of the Underworld can cover a whole village?
Majestic Fire Annihilation can wipe out a whole village?

If we are going by this then any technique that has Long range extends to infinity?

In wiki, it states that Karin's Mind's Eye of the Kagura can extend even to tens of kilometers, she can sense negative emotions and can also tell when she is in a gen. I have always restricted her to Chakra Sensing. If I use Mind's Eye of the Kagura, I can see sh*t more than the byakugan which can see only up to 100m. Well, from now I'll be using my Karin to the fullest. So don't be suprised when I spy on ya'll villages from the comfort of my village.

Now, what I want is this.
1. If anyone is using a tech that will affect the whole village, allow everyone to defend if one person cannot defend for the whole village. Don't restrict it to the person you are fighting in a 1v1 battle.
2. Don't assume things. Don't say because you used this or that, everyone of this set of people died. It makes no sense. If I form a swamp that is long range in Konoha, it doesn't affect every single person in the whole village does it? Or would I just say everyone that didn't see me when I arrived sinks. It makes no sense.
3. If you attack a village, you have no right to tell them how to attack you. They should either choose to engage their attackers in 1v1 battles or 2v1(2v1 so that the burden on senseis and mods for checking fights is lessened)
4. If your jutsu is just long then don't improvise it and make it used to wipe out a whole village. A whole village is not an alley or a street where you can just throw a stone from one end to another. If you have an S or F rank tech that extends to long range, it cannot take out a village. Take Kirin for instance. S rank, short to long range. Don't think it can wipe out a complete village. IT CAN'T. Sasuke use it as long range and it only destroyed Itachi's hideout. If it is able to wipe out a village then it should have gotten to where Kisame, Juugo, Suigetsu and Karin were waiting. That's how large a village is! And also, most jutsus that are capable of taking out a complete village start at the center so that the destruction is balanced. You can't just be at one end and use a technique that just keeps going to infinity guys!
Now look at Shinra Tensei:

(Shinra Tensei) - Divine Punishment
Rank: S Type: Supplementary/Defense/ Attack Range: Short-Long Chakra: 40 (+20 for mid size, +40 for large scale) Damage: 80 (+20 for mid size, +40 for large scale) Description: Manipulate gravity to repulse matter away from the user, with such force that it can easily shatter stone. By using this technique as a defensive measure, most if not all attacks directed to the user
will be deflected, no matter the size or mass. The greatest example of its defensive might was from its ability to effortlessly deflect the Wind Release: Rasenshuriken, a jutsu with power considered beyond S-rank. The ability can be used on individuals, by directing the arm toward another person, or around the user in the form of a perfect wave that repels all incoming attacks. Note: If the user uses it on a regular scale they may not use it the following turn, if used for
the mid scale they may not use it for 2 turns, if the user uses it on the large scale they may not use it again for 5 turns and they lose 40% of their life Note: Useable up to 4 times per battle.

@bolds and underline, you see how much strain a technique that does so much puts on the user?

If we recall, when Deva Path used this, he was just standing, recuperating for 5 turns. In our rp, someone uses an S or F ranked tech to take down a village and is using another F or S rank in the same or next turn! WTF???

Please, let's come to an agreement in this war.

At blue: I can't speak for the rest of the ninjas but I only asked for a one on one due to assuming that everyone that was active in the war on your side was already in a battle. I didn't want to have to deal with starting a fight only to have someone jump in that I was not thinking was going to be there.

@ Red: I don't believe I said once that no one was allowed to not defend against it. I just merely pointed out that it would be quite difficult to do so. You're point about range contradicts itself. You speak about some long range jutsus that cannot go far, but then you mention Shinra Tensei, where Pein destroyed Konoha with. And if you read me and Igneel's fight, I corrected the notion by saying at least half of the village would be destroyed. I'm merely using the jutsu as the originator often used it and that it can be used to destroy a village. You have a problem with it, take it up with Goro or the mod who likely approved it back then, Hells, Rag, or Rei.

Your numbered points are the same thing you said throughout the post so I won't address each seperately. What confuses me is why you all are so mad about it. No one from either side has chosen to use a second bio anyway, nor does it affect the people from your village that are already fighting, whom after this point, I assume might be the only ones to come (I might be wrong, might not). I believe the main reason you all are mad is because if my attack goes through, I presume Mugi, Roku, Gats, and/or others will not be able to come to your defense and aid you. It doesn't affect either side of the war that is currently fighting, only second bios which havent even been used as far as I know. =/

 

[Littlefinger.]

My complaint:
Why can't these "2nd bios" defend themselves? It's not our fault that they're not in battles. You guys said you wanted 1v1 battles cuz it's easier to judge. Then why are there SY rules? I believe the issue that we cannot engage you guys in at least 2v1 battles is BS.
Consider these scenerio:
Madara vs 5 Kages
Nagato vs Itachi, Naruto and Killer Bee
Tobi vs Kakashi, Yamato, Naruto, Shino, Hinata and Kiba.
Sasori vs Sakura and Chiyo
Deidara vs Team 7 and Guy's team
Jiraiya vs 6 Paths of Pain
Sasuke vs Yamato, Naruto, Sai and Sakura
Obito vs Naruto, Bee, Guy and Kakashi
etcetera etcetera

What I mean is that in wars, these 1v1 are unfair at times.
Imagine Madara fighting the 5 kages 1 after another. He'd have killed them in a few minutes.

Now look at it now in this war.
Konoha attacked Kumo. Konoha is now dictating the way we fight them.
It doesn't make sense. BS! If 2 kumo nins intercept you, switch to SY rules and continue. Don't say they should wait. If you are stronger than 1 of them, at least the 2 of them can hold off. When you are fighting them on a 1v1. It's so simple cuz you are stronger. You kill the first one and kill the second. Simple! Then you use an OP jutsu to destroy the village when no one else is allowed to counter except the person you are fighting. How does he counter a jutsu that is meant for the whole village. That's even a bigger BS! If a range reaches Long, I thought it is meant to be 15m? But now it is seemingly used to bring down a whole village.

This means Swamp of the Underworld can cover a whole village?
Majestic Fire Annihilation can wipe out a whole village?

If we are going by this then any technique that has Long range extends to infinity?

In wiki, it states that Karin's Mind's Eye of the Kagura can extend even to tens of kilometers, she can sense negative emotions and can also tell when she is in a gen. I have always restricted her to Chakra Sensing. If I use Mind's Eye of the Kagura, I can see sh*t more than the byakugan which can see only up to 100m. Well, from now I'll be using my Karin to the fullest. So don't be suprised when I spy on ya'll villages from the comfort of my village.

Now, what I want is this.
1. If anyone is using a tech that will affect the whole village, allow everyone to defend if one person cannot defend for the whole village. Don't restrict it to the person you are fighting in a 1v1 battle.
2. Don't assume things. Don't say because you used this or that, everyone of this set of people died. It makes no sense. If I form a swamp that is long range in Konoha, it doesn't affect every single person in the whole village does it? Or would I just say everyone that didn't see me when I arrived sinks. It makes no sense.
3. If you attack a village, you have no right to tell them how to attack you. They should either choose to engage their attackers in 1v1 battles or 2v1(2v1 so that the burden on senseis and mods for checking fights is lessened)
4. If your jutsu is just long then don't improvise it and make it used to wipe out a whole village. A whole village is not an alley or a street where you can just throw a stone from one end to another. If you have an S or F rank tech that extends to long range, it cannot take out a village. Take Kirin for instance. S rank, short to long range. Don't think it can wipe out a complete village. IT CAN'T. Sasuke use it as long range and it only destroyed Itachi's hideout. If it is able to wipe out a village then it should have gotten to where Kisame, Juugo, Suigetsu and Karin were waiting. That's how large a village is! And also, most jutsus that are capable of taking out a complete village start at the center so that the destruction is balanced. You can't just be at one end and use a technique that just keeps going to infinity guys!
Now look at Shinra Tensei:

(Shinra Tensei) - Divine Punishment
Rank: S Type: Supplementary/Defense/ Attack Range: Short-Long Chakra: 40 (+20 for mid size, +40 for large scale) Damage: 80 (+20 for mid size, +40 for large scale) Description: Manipulate gravity to repulse matter away from the user, with such force that it can easily shatter stone. By using this technique as a defensive measure, most if not all attacks directed to the user
will be deflected, no matter the size or mass. The greatest example of its defensive might was from its ability to effortlessly deflect the Wind Release: Rasenshuriken, a jutsu with power considered beyond S-rank. The ability can be used on individuals, by directing the arm toward another person, or around the user in the form of a perfect wave that repels all incoming attacks. Note: If the user uses it on a regular scale they may not use it the following turn, if used for
the mid scale they may not use it for 2 turns, if the user uses it on the large scale they may not use it again for 5 turns and they lose 40% of their life Note: Useable up to 4 times per battle.

@bolds and underline, you see how much strain a technique that does so much puts on the user?

If we recall, when Deva Path used this, he was just standing, recuperating for 5 turns. In our rp, someone uses an S or F ranked tech to take down a village and is using another F or S rank in the same or next turn! WTF???

Please, let's come to an agreement in this war.

Answer my questions you wabbits!!>.<

 

[McRazor]

I love that jutsu

Ah, and to be mentioned that, the said jutsu can be perceved with the sharingan, so LoK, yours is too



and yet, not fast enough to prevent a sensor for saying "guys, guard yourselves"

What are you blabbing about? Sensors have nothing to do in my fight against Xanthe. Get your grip.

Can you say "Guys guard yourself" in less than a second? Can the sound waves from your moth travel to his ears in that time? Can his brain perceive the information? Can he properly react in that time frame? You're not making any sense.

 

[Scorps]

Isn't xanthe's bio a sensor?

 

[Lili-Chwan]

About Xanthe vs McRazor:

I was asked to judge. In my opinion, the water tightens around you as you begin to fall. It's not like you see water forming around you, or earth, in this case, you literally get enveloped in water as if you nearly instantly dived into a pool. The C rank Earth jutsu isn't enough to avoid the water jutsu, furthermore overpower it ( even if Earth has elemental advantage over Water). In my opinion, you get caught ankle deep into the earth.

I liked the counter though, if the water didn't formed in direct contact with you, you would have escaped.

 

[Lord of Kaos]

Better's cloud spread all over the village, so basically, if there is any of your people in the village (or any clones) they are now dead. Most fights are taking place below the village, that's why the cloud did not affect them. Now, if a ninja of our village used the cloud at ground level, all of you would only have 5 turns to live... That's also the "aftermath" of using this jutsu. Also, whoever is flying towards Kumo (thus, is at the same level as the clouds), is also affected.

As long as it didn't affect fights taking place at the time, I don't see why not. Though, if I remember right, he used it from this "point" you all keep referencing, which is stationed in the air, correct?

I love that jutsu

Ah, and to be mentioned that, the said jutsu can be perceved with the sharingan, so LoK, yours is too

Don't understand what you're going for. If you're saying the Sharingan can perceived my jutsu, then obviously it can see the doton chakra. If something else, you've lost me mate.


and yet, not fast enough to prevent a sensor for saying "guys, guard yourselves"

Answer my questions you wabbits!!>.<

I answered, sir. :3

 

[Necron]

Well, it's just math and numbers. But we can all agree that the move is really fast. That's what matters.

What are you blabbing about? Sensors have nothing to do in my fight against Xanthe. Get your grip.

Can you say "Guys guard yourself" in less than a second? Can the sound waves from your moth travel to his ears in that time? Can his brain perceive the information? Can he properly react in that time frame? You're not making any sense.

ok, though we were talking about LoK's move... My bad...

 

[McRazor]

About Xanthe vs McRazor:

I was asked to judge. In my opinion, the water tightens around you as you begin to fall. It's not like you see water forming around you, or earth, in this case, you literally get enveloped in water as if you nearly instantly dived into a pool. The C rank Earth jutsu isn't enough to avoid the water jutsu, furthermore overpower it ( even if Earth has elemental advantage over Water). In my opinion, you get caught ankle deep into the earth.

I liked the counter though, if the water didn't formed in direct contact with you, you would have escaped.

Thank you, Miss.