Konoha Tavern - RP General Chat Discussion

[Troi]

Serious question, would I be able to use Kiyoshi techs with PotS or Yang state since its not non-elemental chakra but "energy"? Hopefully so...

@Lord of Kaos Since no one wanna help around here...

Was hoping to make a Kiyoshi but Yang is moot with Kiyoshi abilities if its generally considered raw chakra...

 

[Zatanna]

Hey guys, help me develop and come up with a mangekyou ability, I had about 18k before the kumi disappeared and im thinking that finally after more than 10 years maybe nearly 15 years I might go for MS that I always wanted XD.

I was thinking maybe something along the lines of Gojo's ability from JJK, for a space time ability, manipulating the metaphysical “distance” between two points. The mangekyo warps the intervening space, so while to the naked eye the gap appears unchanged, the actual effort, time, and chakra required to traverse it is distorted.
The left eye is the 'expansion' where stretches the metaphysical distance between two points. A 20-metre distace may require the effort of 200 metres. Projectiles and ninjutsu traveling through this warped space also slow, leaving them easier to evade.
Then the right eye is the contraction, collapsing metaphysical space between two points. A 20-metre dash may feel like 2 metres, allowing instantaneous closing of distance or making ranged techniques suddenly strike faster and harder than expected. Opponents perceive the distance as unchanged, but reality “snaps” them together.
Then if possible, could even do a cheeky three tomoe benefit something like, contracting space, the user gets a 50% travel reduction due to reducing the space as they travel.

What do you think?

 

[Lucidus]

@Lord of Kaos Since no one wanna help around here...

Was hoping to make a Kiyoshi but Yang is moot with Kiyoshi abilities if its generally considered raw chakra...

It took a while to find out but I believe for the case of these combinations, CCs that use a different energy is still essentially bound by chakra rules unless stated in the CC.

This means for the sake of balance that 'energies' outside of chakra still can't combine with Atavistic Flame for example and in your case the Kiyoshi abilities would be subject to the same rules as chakra

 

[Yin]

Can you make custom jutsu for a custom weapon?

 

[Lucidus]

Can you make custom jutsu for a custom weapon?

I believe you can make CJs based on or requiring your CW especially since there are CFS based on CWs already.. The extent of what you can make however I am not sure and the type of CJ you make might not matter if its linked to the CW or not. The same rules would apply I imagine.

I don't know for certain only a sensei or mod should be able to give you a clear answer

 

[Bellion]

@Lord of Kaos Since no one wanna help around here...

Was hoping to make a Kiyoshi but Yang is moot with Kiyoshi abilities if its generally considered raw chakra...

You wouldn't be able to use it with PoTS due to the restrictions, but Yang State doesn't have that same restriction. Please don't take this as encouragement to spam YS lol

Hey guys, help me develop and come up with a mangekyou ability, I had about 18k before the kumi disappeared and im thinking that finally after more than 10 years maybe nearly 15 years I might go for MS that I always wanted XD.

I was thinking maybe something along the lines of Gojo's ability from JJK, for a space time ability, manipulating the metaphysical “distance” between two points. The mangekyo warps the intervening space, so while to the naked eye the gap appears unchanged, the actual effort, time, and chakra required to traverse it is distorted.
The left eye is the 'expansion' where stretches the metaphysical distance between two points. A 20-metre distace may require the effort of 200 metres. Projectiles and ninjutsu traveling through this warped space also slow, leaving them easier to evade.
Then the right eye is the contraction, collapsing metaphysical space between two points. A 20-metre dash may feel like 2 metres, allowing instantaneous closing of distance or making ranged techniques suddenly strike faster and harder than expected. Opponents perceive the distance as unchanged, but reality “snaps” them together.
Then if possible, could even do a cheeky three tomoe benefit something like, contracting space, the user gets a 50% travel reduction due to reducing the space as they travel.

What do you think?

I haven't read the clan in a while, but this seems similar to the Noah Clan abilities, so maybe check that out

Can you make custom jutsu for a custom weapon?

Yes, you're allowed to make one CW Jutsu iirc

 

[Sinthorus]

You wouldn't be able to use it with PoTS due to the restrictions, but Yang State doesn't have that same restriction. Please don't take this as encouragement to spam YS lol


I haven't read the clan in a while, but this seems similar to the Noah Clan abilities, so maybe check that out

Yes, you're allowed to make one CW Jutsu iirc

Yeah CW jutsu are allowed.

 

[Zatanna]

thank you sensei.

This is why asking around helps. I didnt know what their abilities were. back to drawing board

 

[Troi]

You wouldn't be able to use it with PoTS due to the restrictions, but Yang State doesn't have that same restriction. Please don't take this as encouragement to spam YS lol


I haven't read the clan in a while, but this seems similar to the Noah Clan abilities, so maybe check that out

Yes, you're allowed to make one CW Jutsu iirc

Don't worry about what I spam. I bought it and I'm going to use it. Like a Lamborghini.

But thank you.

 

[Ańbu Juniør]

I keep forgetting to update my bio

 

[Lucidus]

I keep forgetting to update my bio

You should do that! or maybe wait until most of the content is up and running again

 

[Joon]

Hey guys, help me develop and come up with a mangekyou ability, I had about 18k before the kumi disappeared and im thinking that finally after more than 10 years maybe nearly 15 years I might go for MS that I always wanted XD.

I was thinking maybe something along the lines of Gojo's ability from JJK, for a space time ability, manipulating the metaphysical “distance” between two points. The mangekyo warps the intervening space, so while to the naked eye the gap appears unchanged, the actual effort, time, and chakra required to traverse it is distorted.
The left eye is the 'expansion' where stretches the metaphysical distance between two points. A 20-metre distace may require the effort of 200 metres. Projectiles and ninjutsu traveling through this warped space also slow, leaving them easier to evade.
Then the right eye is the contraction, collapsing metaphysical space between two points. A 20-metre dash may feel like 2 metres, allowing instantaneous closing of distance or making ranged techniques suddenly strike faster and harder than expected. Opponents perceive the distance as unchanged, but reality “snaps” them together.
Then if possible, could even do a cheeky three tomoe benefit something like, contracting space, the user gets a 50% travel reduction due to reducing the space as they travel.

What do you think?

Mangekyou Sharingan: Kōkan no Kōkei (“Perspective of Exchange”)​

Core Concept:​

Rather than manipulating physical space, this Mangekyou warps perceptual and metaphysical relationships between entities, objects, and events. It doesn’t teleport or distort space—it alters the conceptual distance between things. The user becomes a master of relational inversion, bending the logic of cause and effect, proximity, and even identity.

👁 Left Eye — Kōkan: Distal Veil​

• Effect: Expands the metaphysical “distance” between two entities or events.
• Function: A kunai thrown from 5 meters may feel like it’s coming from 50 meters away—slowing reaction time, disrupting targeting, and confusing sensory input.
• Advanced Use: Can delay cause-effect chains. For example, a fire jutsu may ignite after the target has already moved, creating temporal dissonance.

👁 Right Eye — Kōkan: Proximal Collapse​

• Effect: Collapses conceptual distance between two points, events, or identities.
• Function: A whisper may be heard as if shouted in the ear. A distant ally’s chakra may be felt as if standing beside the user.
• Advanced Use: Can “snap” two unrelated events together—e.g., a missed punch may still cause pain as if it connected, due to collapsed perceptual causality.

Three Tomoe Passive — Relational Drift​

• Effect: The user gains passive awareness of all relational distortions within a 50-meter radius.
• Function: Detects inconsistencies in genjutsu, clones, or spatial techniques by sensing unnatural relational links.
• Bonus: Travel and reaction time are reduced by 50% when moving toward a target with collapsed proximity.

Visual Effects:​

• When activated, the Mangekyou pattern resembles a rotating Möbius strip with mirrored tomoe orbiting a central eye.
• Reality around the user subtly “ripples” like a heat haze, but only when relational shifts occur.
• Sound cues distort—whispers echo, footsteps seem reversed, and time feels “off” to affected targets.

Philosophical Flavor:​

Zatanna’s MS reflects her mastery over perception, logic, and metaphysical boundaries. It’s not brute force—it’s conceptual warfare. Enemies don’t just lose track of her—they lose track of what’s real.

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What are the rules on Ai/Chat gpt? lol


Because I use it to brainstorm ideas.

@Lord of Kaos

 

[Vayne]

Mangekyou Sharingan: Kōkan no Kōkei (“Perspective of Exchange”)​

Core Concept:​

Rather than manipulating physical space, this Mangekyou warps perceptual and metaphysical relationships between entities, objects, and events. It doesn’t teleport or distort space—it alters the conceptual distance between things. The user becomes a master of relational inversion, bending the logic of cause and effect, proximity, and even identity.

👁 Left Eye — Kōkan: Distal Veil​

• Effect: Expands the metaphysical “distance” between two entities or events.
• Function: A kunai thrown from 5 meters may feel like it’s coming from 50 meters away—slowing reaction time, disrupting targeting, and confusing sensory input.
• Advanced Use: Can delay cause-effect chains. For example, a fire jutsu may ignite after the target has already moved, creating temporal dissonance.

👁 Right Eye — Kōkan: Proximal Collapse​

• Effect: Collapses conceptual distance between two points, events, or identities.
• Function: A whisper may be heard as if shouted in the ear. A distant ally’s chakra may be felt as if standing beside the user.
• Advanced Use: Can “snap” two unrelated events together—e.g., a missed punch may still cause pain as if it connected, due to collapsed perceptual causality.

Three Tomoe Passive — Relational Drift​

• Effect: The user gains passive awareness of all relational distortions within a 50-meter radius.
• Function: Detects inconsistencies in genjutsu, clones, or spatial techniques by sensing unnatural relational links.
• Bonus: Travel and reaction time are reduced by 50% when moving toward a target with collapsed proximity.

Visual Effects:​

• When activated, the Mangekyou pattern resembles a rotating Möbius strip with mirrored tomoe orbiting a central eye.
• Reality around the user subtly “ripples” like a heat haze, but only when relational shifts occur.
• Sound cues distort—whispers echo, footsteps seem reversed, and time feels “off” to affected targets.

Philosophical Flavor:​

Zatanna’s MS reflects her mastery over perception, logic, and metaphysical boundaries. It’s not brute force—it’s conceptual warfare. Enemies don’t just lose track of her—they lose track of what’s real.

---

What are the rules on Ai/Chat gpt? lol


Because I use it to brainstorm ideas.

@Lord of Kaos

I see this new era is going to be entertaining.

I’m sure you can use AI, though C/P it is highly unlikely to net you anything other than a cycle ban

 

[Zatanna]

I see this new era is going to be entertaining.

I’m sure you can use AI, though C/P it is highly unlikely to net you anything other than a cycle ban

despite it already being basically the same as Noah clan, I appreciate the effort.

I think the use of AI will probably just help users write or describe their ideas better? then again it might just add a bunch more flavour text. Id still like a word cap on customs, some techs get wildly out of hand.5
I think maybe if its edited or at least, doesnt have the emojis, the stylish formatting etc, conforming to traditional submission standards, might make it easier.

 

[Lord of Kaos]

Mangekyou Sharingan: Kōkan no Kōkei (“Perspective of Exchange”)​

Core Concept:​

Rather than manipulating physical space, this Mangekyou warps perceptual and metaphysical relationships between entities, objects, and events. It doesn’t teleport or distort space—it alters the conceptual distance between things. The user becomes a master of relational inversion, bending the logic of cause and effect, proximity, and even identity.

👁 Left Eye — Kōkan: Distal Veil​

• Effect: Expands the metaphysical “distance” between two entities or events.
• Function: A kunai thrown from 5 meters may feel like it’s coming from 50 meters away—slowing reaction time, disrupting targeting, and confusing sensory input.
• Advanced Use: Can delay cause-effect chains. For example, a fire jutsu may ignite after the target has already moved, creating temporal dissonance.

👁 Right Eye — Kōkan: Proximal Collapse​

• Effect: Collapses conceptual distance between two points, events, or identities.
• Function: A whisper may be heard as if shouted in the ear. A distant ally’s chakra may be felt as if standing beside the user.
• Advanced Use: Can “snap” two unrelated events together—e.g., a missed punch may still cause pain as if it connected, due to collapsed perceptual causality.

Three Tomoe Passive — Relational Drift​

• Effect: The user gains passive awareness of all relational distortions within a 50-meter radius.
• Function: Detects inconsistencies in genjutsu, clones, or spatial techniques by sensing unnatural relational links.
• Bonus: Travel and reaction time are reduced by 50% when moving toward a target with collapsed proximity.

Visual Effects:​

• When activated, the Mangekyou pattern resembles a rotating Möbius strip with mirrored tomoe orbiting a central eye.
• Reality around the user subtly “ripples” like a heat haze, but only when relational shifts occur.
• Sound cues distort—whispers echo, footsteps seem reversed, and time feels “off” to affected targets.

Philosophical Flavor:​

Zatanna’s MS reflects her mastery over perception, logic, and metaphysical boundaries. It’s not brute force—it’s conceptual warfare. Enemies don’t just lose track of her—they lose track of what’s real.

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What are the rules on Ai/Chat gpt? lol


Because I use it to brainstorm ideas.

@Lord of Kaos

This is as bad as some of the customs I've seen yall submit.

Please do not use AI to make customs. You'd have to train the bot to make customs based on the RP, not the Naruto-verse and many of yall barely know how to ask normal questions. I do not have faith in the prompts yall will ask AI to make for you into customs

 

[Zatanna]

thats the trick, is the fact that this is a custom system, not explicitly actual naruto or any specific game rules or universe.

 

[Kooljay]

I experimented with AI customs months ago. The AI isn’t very creative. It’s good at creating lore for characters though.

 

[Sinthorus]

I can see so many people being banned from customs for putting their faith in AI and it comes up with Dumbass No Jutsu.

 

[Zatanna]

Can anyone link me the rules for "Dual Abilities" when it comes to canon characters? Eg "unless they are using Dual Abilities, in which case the ability with the highest AP boosts will apply."

I can't remember what post it was in

 

[Antares]

As far as i know there isnt any official rule pages focused on dual abilities, though there may be something in the custom rulings thread or the rp update thread?