[VS] Konan VS Tsunade

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Tsunade used chakra scapel over her arms to help knock away the fire attack Madara threw at the gokage. If it is not chakra scapel it's just chakra cloaked arms. She will rip out of it not to mention she would have to let herself get wraped up in the first place.

How can you assume she would not use chakra scapel just because it's not convenient for you, how biased. She will do anything it takes to get out.



Katsuya cannot die by bombs, homegirl tanked shinra tensei and all physical attacks. Katsuya has only ever died by having chakra absorbed out of her.

Byakugou > explosions. Everyone thinks because she has byakugou she will allow herself to take damage she does not need to, lets not forget using byakugou in itself is going to harm her in the end and the less damage she takes the longer byakugou could potentially last for her so she would still dodge.

Even though Tsunade getting damaged continuously in Madara fight was able to last hours.

Also Tsunade can use great division and have katsuya situated on different areas of the battlefield to provide Acid support and even provide defensive support.
Not really biased when she rarely uses it in fights and hasn't shown to rely on it.
 

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How would he? They both have 3.5 but Tsunade does have better speed feats. How are you proving your claims he will run circles around her?
lol.....Hidan kept up with Asuma and Kakashi in direct battle. Both have a 4.5 in speed. So much for the databook.

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Lol.....Tsunade is not even close to the same speed.
 

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Not really biased when she rarely uses it in fights and hasn't shown to rely on it.
But she has used it in fights and the VS section is not cannon I can make Tsunade use what I want as long as she has shown it to help her counter any other jutsu.

It doesn't matter if she does not rely on it, that is a weak arguement. If she is in a situation and she can't get out common sense it to use what will get you out for example: Chakra scapel arms or her insane strength.
 

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lol.....Hidan kept up with Asuma and Kakashi in direct battle. Both have a 4.5 in speed. So much for the databook.

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Lol.....Tsunade is not even close to the same speed.
This isn't Tsunade Versus Hidan
 

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lol.....Hidan kept up with Asuma and Kakashi in direct battle. Both have a 4.5 in speed. So much for the databook.

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Lol.....Tsunade is not even close to the same speed.
I assuming you think because Hidan was keeping up with them means they themselves were going full speed.

By that logic if Ay was fighting Tsunade would he use V2 if he knew he could manage her speed in base? I don't think so.

Tsunade will keep up with him based on speed feats, especially since he will be directly engaging her trying to get her blood. Those speed feats you showed me they are running around.

Speed is only a fraction when the woman can tank anything he throws and attempts.
 

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I assuming you think because Hidan was keeping up with them means they themselves were going full speed.

By that logic if Ay was fighting Tsunade would he use V2 if he knew he could manage her speed in base? I don't think so.

Tsunade will keep up with him based on speed feats, especially since he will be directly engaging her trying to get her blood. Those speed feats you showed me they are running around.

Speed is only a fraction when the woman can tank anything he throws and attempts.
lol.........sorry but this is ridiculous. I dont feel like repeating myself, this is getting off topic, so Im done.
 

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lol.........sorry but this is ridiculous. I dont feel like repeating myself, this is getting off topic, so Im done.
In other words you didn't think of that and you are out of ideas.

Tsunade tanks everything he stabs into himself, she breaks the circle. Katsuya reduces him to juice with acid After Tsunade incapacitates him and she has a nice tall glass of man to celebrate victory. I say i should slip out of VS for a while.
 
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In other words you didn't think of that and you are out of ideas.

Tsunade tanks everything he stabs into himself, she breaks the circle. Katsuya reduces him to juice with acid After Tsunade incapacitates him and she has a nice tall glass of man to celebrate victory.
no its more your last post is absolutely garbage, and oozes biased fanboyism lol. That comparison you made, made me cringe.
 

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no its more your last post is absolutely garbage, and oozes biased fanboyism lol. That comparison you made, made me cringe.
Because it's true and so you rule it off lol I love how you think Tsunade has never shown speed feats on that scale. The fact alone she jumped several meters ahead of the gokage and blocked katon before mei could ever weave hand seals.

And she got off the ground and behind kabuto to hit him with BPD before he could fix his glasses in like a second is fast enough to me.

Speed doesn't change the end result because hidans fighting is the same. If he gets he blood he will do his ritual and she will counter it because he cannot kill her in byakugou mode. le manga phux
 

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I assuming you think because Hidan was keeping up with them means they themselves were going full speed.

By that logic if Ay was fighting Tsunade would he use V2 if he knew he could manage her speed in base? I don't think so.

Tsunade will keep up with him based on speed feats, especially since he will be directly engaging her trying to get her blood. Those speed feats you showed me they are running around.

Speed is only a fraction when the woman can tank anything he throws and attempts.
technically the inference u were trying to make with the speed deviation is wrong since of course A wouldnt need to use v2 against tsunade but when Hidan faced Asuma and kakashi they never got the upper hand on him so the speed they used in that fight with him must have been their full speed if it were not then that would make u right and would also mean like the raikage vs tsunade they would have easily best him but since they didnt it debunks your post partially because u didnt take into account the affects of the battle but instead tried to make a comparison with other shinobi who didnt fight each other but i agree with the raikage part...
 

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technically the inference u were trying to make with the speed deviation is wrong since of course A wouldnt need to use v2 against tsunade but when Hidan faced Asuma and kakashi they never got the upper hand on him so the speed they used in that fight with him must have been their full speed if it were not then that would make u right and would also mean like the raikage vs tsunade they would have easily best him but since they didnt it debunks your post partially because u didnt take into account the affects of the battle but instead tried to make a comparison with other shinobi who didnt fight each other but i agree with the raikage part...
I see and thanks, but i'm saying kakashi was able to handle hidan at that level I have seen in scans random ninja move at the quick speeds when they look like line dashes but I dont think that means they are speed demons.

It still works both ways anyways cuz even if they are saying he is faster it doesnt mean he would be going that faster than her if he can handle her speed.

Tsunade still has some speed feats I feel she could keep up with.

And in the end I still say Hidans fighting style doesnt change and if he gets her blood we know he likes to play before he kills she will know and activate byakugou and she will then have a few hours to batter him once she gets rid of the circle which i said how before.

I'm almost positive katsuya can reduce him to nothing. After he is worn.
 

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Konan would definitely when vs tsunade im sure it would be high diff but i dnt think tsunade would be able to pull konan off of her tsunade would lose to suffocation...
 

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I see and thanks, but i'm saying kakashi was able to handle hidan at that level I have seen in scans random ninja move at the quick speeds when they look like line dashes but I dont think that means they are speed demons.

Tsunade still has some speed feats I feel she could keep up with.

And in the end I still say Hidans fighting style doesnt change and if he gets her blood we know he likes to play before he kills she will know and activate byakugou and she will then have a few hours to batter him once she gets rid of the circle which i said how before.

I'm almost positive katsuya can reduce him to nothing. After he is worn.
i completely get what your saying but we cannot assume kakashi wanst moving at his fastest speed because i saw kakashi bruised and battered from fighting hidan, ill say kakashi had the slight speed advantage but kakashi clealry had to be moving his fastest at that time because what shinobi or better yet what person is going to risk giving your opponent the chance to hit u when u knw if that opponent hits u there would be no way to when since all hidan needs is one scratch one drop of blood....


im sure she could keep up with hidan but she would lose to him because her speed isnt greater than his and she uses taijutsu and thats the absolutely wrong way for her to fight him because she would be opening herself up to get hit and then hidan would just start his ritual and kill her, her best bet is too summon katsuya and play defense instead of a direct assault like she is known for...


i dnt think tsunade knws hidans abilities, now if she does then she is very well capable of knowing all she has to do is remove the ritual circle but i dnt think she has intel on him but she might since she is the hokage but even still she could lose because knowing about something and actually facing it in live action is 2 different things....
 

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i completely get what your saying but we cannot assume kakashi wanst moving at his fastest speed because i saw kakashi bruised and battered from fighting hidan, ill say kakashi had the slight speed advantage but kakashi clealry had to be moving his fastest at that time because what shinobi or better yet what person is going to risk giving your opponent the chance to hit u when u knw if that opponent hits u there would be no way to when since all hidan needs is one scratch one drop of blood....


im sure she could keep up with hidan but she would lose to him because her speed isnt greater than his and she uses taijutsu and thats the absolutely wrong way for her to fight him because she would be opening herself up to get hit and then hidan would just start his ritual and kill her, her best bet is too summon katsuya and play defense instead of a direct assault like she is known for...


i dnt think tsunade knws hidans abilities, now if she does then she is very well capable of knowing all she has to do is remove the ritual circle but i dnt think she has intel on him but she might since she is the hokage but even still she could lose because knowing about something and actually facing it in live action is 2 different things....
Without intel she would not know taijutsu is not the way to do @ your second paragraph so she would do it anyways to start off, remember thinking as if there is no intel.

Even without knowing his abilities lets just say that because of this he gets her blood. She would be there as he draws the circle and then she realises she can feel the pain he does. She should be smart enough to deduce that the circle has a part to play and can shatter it.



Again that hidan getting her blood unknowing to him will not matter because she can tank it, she would activate byakugou as a safe measure from the time she sees when he is i nthat circle she feels the pain he feels.

she could even play dead(since he does not know what byakugou does without intel) and get him close and then use BPD (like she played dead against madara) and melt him after. Playing dead could work even if the circle is not gone cuz he would leave the circle and go to her assuming she is dead as he likes to offer his kills to jashin.

If he assumed she is already dead he would exit his voodoo form or w/e it is and revert back to normal.


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After the circle is gone

she could engage him again and use BPD on him because once she gets close she can do it as we have seen the insane speed it worked for. Then katsuya can finish him with acid.

This is if she did not have intel. If she had intel I could see it going pretty much the same way by current feats. Except she would give him a wayy harder time to draw the circle in the first place.

I will be back later to check back, i have to go out.
 
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@ToshiZO do you want to have a debate between you and I regarding Hidan vs Tsunade, there's no reason to drag this thread down that road when we can just settle it in another thread entirely.
 

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It depends on the situation. Intel or no Intel?
It really doesn't matter, she's a Sannin who's portrayed to have incredible intelligence. Hidan's jutsu isn't that hard to figure out.

Without Intel: Tsunade doesn't have byakugo activated after a simple scratch. She has no idea about the circle and Hidan stabs himself game over.
Except she can activate it after taking multiple deadly blows.

With Intel: Tsunade has byakugo activated so she will recover from his attacks, BUT Hidan also now has intel so he will stab right through his head on the get go,
What's this supposed to do?

or constantly stab himself to the point where it is irrecoverable.
Yeah, show me an instance of Tsunade not recovering from a stabbing wound. They're literally nothing to her.

Smashing the ground will disrupt the circle but amidst the rubble Hidan can easily create another one,
And she destroys it again.

he can take advantage of the dust and rubble blinding Tsunade.
It's blinding him too. Plus their won't even be that much rubble, quit exaggerating.

With intel Tsunade might be able to pull this off if she tags him with body pathway, then its game over for Hidan, but that's the thing she will have to tag him, while he knows full well what she is capable of so he will try to avoid being hit which he is capable of.
Then he can run around like a frightened bunny all day for all I care. He's not doing jack to Tsunade.

Either way he can win in both scenarios.

You choose.
No he can't.
 
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