[VS] Konan VS Tsunade

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Asuma has a 4.5 in speed in the Databook while Tsunade has a 3.5. But Asuma still got hit by Hidan... Also if there is no intel, I don't really think Tsunade would care that much about the scythe. She doesn't know what could possibly happen to her if hidan took her blood and os she wouldn't care that much for a little cut. Especially since she got healing juts.
Asuma wasn't even moving or attempting to dodge the scythe (IIRC). And you can say that Tsunade wouldn't care about the scythe then why would Hidan (Without intel) care about Tsunade summoning Katsuyu. If this is IC then Hidan wouldn't go for his heart first which still means heaven kick of pain gg.
 

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Uhm yes he did? I didn't say he would or wouldn't care about katsuyu but why would tsunade even bring her up in battle? There is no sense in summoning katsuyu, at all. And he wouldn't do it thew first time but once he figures out that she can heal. He'll go go for either the heart or the head... Game overt.
 

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Uhm yes he did? I didn't say he would or wouldn't care about katsuyu but why would tsunade even bring her up in battle? There is no sense in summoning katsuyu, at all. And he wouldn't do it thew first time but once he figures out that she can heal. He'll go go for either the heart or the head... Game overt.
Lol he basically stepped back. Tsunade can fodderize that scythe with a punch or grab it. And there is a lot of sense to summon Katsuyu. She can go into Katsuyu who is resistant to Taijutsu. And once he figures out that she can heal, Tsunade will figure out the ritual. So punch to the ground and the ritual is over.
 

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Lol he basically stepped back. Tsunade can fodderize that scythe with a punch or grab it. And there is a lot of sense to summon Katsuyu. She can go into Katsuyu who is resistant to Taijutsu. And once he figures out that she can heal, Tsunade will figure out the ritual. So punch to the ground and the ritual is over.
Still got caught. And you can see in the picture that he was off the ground. Once you're off the ground you can't move. (Unless you use Kage Bunshin like Naruto). Tsunade doesn't need to rely on Katsuyu for that. Or else Naruto would be using Bunta all the time in battle because his taijutsu is not that great... but it doesn't work like that. No she won't O.O Figuring out that a person has healing jutsu (especially since tsunade is well known for that) would take Hidan less time then it would take Tsunade to figure out his Ritual. The only reason why Shikamaru figured it out was because he is one of the smartest persons in NV. While Tsunade has no feats when it comes to intellect.
 

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Still got caught. And you can see in the picture that he was off the ground. Once you're off the ground you can't move. (Unless you use Kage Bunshin like Naruto). Tsunade doesn't to rely on Katsuyu for that. Or else Naruto would be using Bunta all the time in battle because his taijutsu is not that great... but it doesn't work like that. No she won't O.O Figuring out that a person has healing jutsu (especially since tsunade is well known for that) would take Hidan less time then it would take Tsunade to figure out his Ritual. The only reason why Shikamaru figured it out was because he is one of the smartest persons in NV. While Tsunade has no feats when it comes to intellect.
Tsunade doesn't need to go into air. She can either summon Katsuyu or like i said grab or punch the scythe to break/fodderize it. And why are you comparing Katsuyu and Gamabunta. They play two different roles. Gamabunta isn't resistant to taijutsu while Katsuyu is. She'll have a much bigger factor in this match than Bunta. And besides Tsunade doesn't need to immediately heal after Hidan stabs her. She lived being split in half without the seal. Sure she can still attack while she's injured.

Are you kidding me? Tsunade has intellectual feats. She was able to effortlessly undo the damage to Kakashi and Sasuke's minds by Itachi's Tsukiyomi. That's an intellectual feat on Human psyche. Don't underestimate her intellectual level. It's above Hidans.
 

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Still got caught. And you can see in the picture that he was off the ground. Once you're off the ground you can't move. (Unless you use Kage Bunshin like Naruto). Tsunade doesn't need to rely on Katsuyu for that. Or else Naruto would be using Bunta all the time in battle because his taijutsu is not that great... but it doesn't work like that. No she won't O.O Figuring out that a person has healing jutsu (especially since tsunade is well known for that) would take Hidan less time then it would take Tsunade to figure out his Ritual. The only reason why Shikamaru figured it out was because he is one of the smartest persons in NV. While Tsunade has no feats when it comes to intellect.
Backing this wayy wayy back to the part where one of you guys in hidans favor said Tsunade is not smart enough to tell what would be happening without intel. Be that as it may, from the first time he would afflict her with pain someone with a 5 intelligence would know that he is doing that via said circle after they watched them draw that and then started feeling what they feel.

Nice to assume you think Hidan who was outsmarted on many occasions can deduce things faster than Tsunade can.

Tsunade doesn't need katsuya to destroy the circle. A simple finger crater can split that apart Tsunade is not dying from the first stab he gives himself. And before you say it, he won't stab his brain because you guys said no intel, besides it would not work, manga facts all organs are healed.

Tsunade will solo him even if he gets her blood because his trick is fairly simple to analyse. After she breaks the circle and he moves away she can either separate him with CES or melt him with katsuya since that girl said a scenario where she uses that. Or BPD + CES either would work out IMO.
 
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Backing this wayy wayy back to the part where one of you guys in hidans favor said Tsunade is not smart enough to tell what would be happening without intel. Be that as it may, from the first time he would afflict her with pain someone with a 5 intelligence would know that he is doing that via said circle after they watched them draw that and then started feeling what they feel.

Nice to assume you think Hidan who was outsmarted on many occasions can deduce things faster than Tsunade can.

Tsunade doesn't need katsuya to destroy the circle. A simple finger crater can split that apart Tsunade is not dying from the first stab he gives himself. And before you say it, he won't stab his brain because you guys said no intel, besides it would not work, manga facts all organs are healed.

Tsunade will solo him even if he gets her blood because his trick is fairly simple to analyse. After she breaks the circle and he moves away she can either separate him with CES or melt him with katsuya since that girl said a scenario where she uses that. Or BPD + CES either would work out IMO.
I will reply to both of you guys tomorrow. I'm way too tired and I have to get up early.
 

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This is ridiculous how underrated Konan is. How the hell is Katsuyu saving Tsunade when Konan can tear through her easily? Have you guys also forgot Paper Chakram and her paper coffin?
Tsunade can go into Katsuyu and Konan has shown no feat to be able to wrap Katsuyu and if she does than Katsuyu can just split herself. Paper Chakram won't kill Tsunade. Acid is enough to deal with Konan.
 

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Konan won't defeat Tsunade.

Paper coffin will be countered by Chakra scapel.
Susanoo sword> Paper Shurikens. Which Tsunade tanked
Paper chakram will be evaded or tanked.
Dance of the shikigami gives her a disadvantage because she's vulnerable for Acid.

And if Konan decides to go into the air Tsunade will just get into Katsuyu and keep healing and keep getting chakra from Katsuyu.

If konan tries her whole arsenal (if she's not killed before that) She will waste too much chakra and therefor get tired and leave herself open for an attack.
 

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You say she doesn't land heaven kick of pain but who says he can land an attack on Tsunade. They both share the same speed stat but Tsunade has better speed feats. Besides Hidan said he was the slowest attacker out of the Akatsuki. While he does have great avoiding abilities he needs to use his Scythe to even get blood from Tsunade. The Scythe can be dodged or grabbed. The scythe can be broken by Tsunade. Although you make some solid points so without intel i think both have a fair chance.
I hope you're trolling, Hidan would run circles around her.
 

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Konan won't defeat Tsunade.

Paper coffin will be countered by Chakra scapel.
Susanoo sword> Paper Shurikens. Which Tsunade tanked
Paper chakram will be evaded or tanked.
Dance of the shikigami gives her a disadvantage because she's vulnerable for Acid.

And if Konan decides to go into the air Tsunade will just get into Katsuyu and keep healing and keep getting chakra from Katsuyu.

If konan tries her whole arsenal (if she's not killed before that) She will waste too much chakra and therefor get tired and leave herself open for an attack.
Since when has she shown to be able to use Chakra Scalpal in combat? Even if she has it I doubt she would resort to it. When she is in Paper Coffin she can't get out because her arms will be binded. Konan can mix in paper bombs and deal some deadly damage

Sure the first wave of paper shurikens, but what about the other waves she will throw?

I doubt that

Not if she stays in long range and dodges it

Katsuyu gets destroyed by either Paper Chakram Or paper bomb barrage

Most of her jutsus (Ex: Paper Shuriken, Multi Paper Bombs) don't take that much chakra. I don't think Tsunade will be able to keep up with all of the damage.
 
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Since when has she shown to be able to use Chakra Scalpal in combat? Even if she has it I doubt she would resort to it. When she is in Paper Coffin she can't get out because her arms will be binded. Konan can mix in paper bombs and deal some deadly damage

Sure the first wave of paper shurikens, but what about the other waves she will throw?

I doubt that

Not if she dodges it

Katsuyu gets destroyed by either Paper Chakram Or paper bomb barrage

Most of her jutsus (Ex: Paper Shuriken, Multi Paper Bombs) don't take that much chakra. I don't think Tsunade will be able to keep up with all of the damage.
She doesn't need to dodge everything. She will instantly heal. And while she's getting chakra from Katsuyu so she won't just run out of chakra. Katsuyu can divide herself to dodge an attack like paper chakram or counter it with acid. Katsuyu won't just stand there and let paper chakram hit her. Katsuyu is just as resistant or even more resistant than Tsunade. Paper chakram or paper bomb barrage won't kill Katsuyu. Tsunade can tank Konans attacks longer than Konan can tank Tsunade or until she runs out of chakra. Acid is just the biggest issue for Konan because i don't see her avoiding it.
 

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Since when has she shown to be able to use Chakra Scalpal in combat? Even if she has it I doubt she would resort to it. When she is in Paper Coffin she can't get out because her arms will be binded. Konan can mix in paper bombs and deal some deadly damage


Katsuyu gets destroyed by either Paper Chakram Or paper bomb barrage

Most of her jutsus (Ex: Paper Shuriken, Multi Paper Bombs) don't take that much chakra. I don't think Tsunade will be able to keep up with all of the damage.
Tsunade used chakra scapel over her arms to help knock away the fire attack Madara threw at the gokage. If it is not chakra scapel it's just chakra cloaked arms. She will rip out of it not to mention she would have to let herself get wraped up in the first place.

Do you think paper coffin will bind a woman easily who has the power to lift gamabunta's sword? And make craters with her finger?

How can you assume she would not use chakra scapel just because it's not convenient for you, how biased. She will do anything it takes to get out.



Katsuya cannot die by bombs, homegirl tanked shinra tensei and all physical attacks. Katsuya has only ever died by having chakra absorbed out of her.

Byakugou > explosions. Everyone thinks because she has byakugou she will allow herself to take damage she does not need to, lets not forget using byakugou in itself is going to harm her in the end and the less damage she takes the longer byakugou could potentially last for her so she would still dodge.

Even though Tsunade getting damaged continuously in Madara fight was able to last hours.

Also Tsunade can use great division and have katsuya situated on different areas of the battlefield to provide Acid support and even provide defensive support.
 
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