Konan v Sound 4

[Apêx1]

Distance: 20 meters
Location: Sasuke vs #DosuSquad
Intel: Full
Restrictions: Paper Ocean

S2: Konan vs Sound 5 same conditions.

 

[Haizaki]

- Sound 4 shits alone. Adding a more powerful member makes it a joke.

 

[Beans2]

Konan negs both scenarios honestly. Nobody can counter her swarming them with papers then getting blown to smithereens.

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

Sound 4 win.

 

[Apêx1]

- Sound 4 shits alone. Adding a more powerful member makes it a joke.

How do they shit when nothing they do can affect her in paper form?

 

[LuckyMan]

How do they shit when nothing they do can affect her in paper form?

Demonic Flute?

 

[Silent Hero]

Portrayal wise Konan dumps.

Feat wise I'll go with S4.

 

[Haizaki]

How do they shit when nothing they do can affect her in paper form?

She has no counter to demonic flute. Add that and the fact that the curse mark enhances one's durability, here paper bombs may not be as effective.

Plus the fact that Tayuya has that demonic flute followed by Kidomaru's webs which would be ended by Jirobi's Doton: Doryō Dango

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. What can Konan really do? Not bringing in Kimmi yet.

 

[Silent Hero]

She can still hear in her paper form yes?

She can be affected in her paper form.

 

[Apêx1]

Demonic Flute?

She has no counter to demonic flute. Add that and the fact that the curse mark enhances one's durability, here paper bombs may not be as effective.

Plus the fact that Tayuya has that demonic flute followed by Kidomaru's webs which would be ended by Jirobi's Doton: Doryō Dango

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. What can Konan really do? Not bringing in Kimmi yet.

You need a brain for Genjutsu to work. In paper form she has no organs as shown and stated on several occasions.

Kidomaru's webs would only attack to a couple of papers while th rest of her body leaves those few papers behind and travels away, Jirobo's Doton would have pretty much no effect since she can dodge it while airborne or just be unaffected since she's made of paper. What can Konan do? For one, her papers are far too fast for them to dodge, so she can suffocate them or cut them up terribly. Paper bombs can blast off limbs as well, given she could destroy Obito's arm despite his arm having tanked Suigetsu's sword attack no diff [

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[LuckyMan]

You need a brain for Genjutsu to work. In paper form she has no organs as shown and stated on several occasions.

Kidomaru's webs would only attack to a couple of papers while th rest of her body leaves those few papers behind and travels away, Jirobo's Doton would have pretty much no effect since she can dodge it while airborne or just be unaffected since she's made of paper. What can Konan do? For one, her papers are far too fast for them to dodge, so she can suffocate them or cut them up terribly. Paper bombs can blast off limbs as well, given she could destroy Obito's arm despite his arm having tanked Suigetsu's sword attack no diff [

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So Tsukuyomi would be useless on Konan?

 

[Haizaki]

You need a brain for Genjutsu to work. In paper form she has no organs as shown and stated on several occasions.

Not that this really matters since Konan has shown she can still hear like when she was listening to Obito's talk about the Akatuski in her paper state...The main point of Genjutsu is to aim at the senses...It frames the senses.

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Not to mention, Edo's don't have organs and yet Itachi was trapped in Tayuya's Genjutsu.

Kidomaru's webs would only attack to a couple of papers while th rest of her body leaves those few papers behind and travels away, Jirobo's Doton would have pretty much no effect since she can dodge it while airborne or just be unaffected since she's made of paper. What can Konan do? For one, her papers are far too fast for them to dodge, so she can suffocate them or cut them up terribly. Paper bombs can blast off limbs as well, given she could destroy Obito's arm despite his arm having tanked Suigetsu's sword attack no diff [

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Nope...Kidomaru traps her main body whether or not in her paper form. Unless you're suggesting she'll completely spread which would be useless. Once she's distracted, she's left vulnerable for attacks like this. There's no way in hell's world she's dodging that while having the attention of others.

Obito didn't tank but stopped the sword attack, unless you're suggesting his own hand has more physical prowess than that sword as he ripped his arm off

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..Not that really has a meaning to why her paper bombs would destroy these people with enhanced CM2 durability. Plus the fact that Kido with enhanced CM2 durability can add his gold armor to increase the chances of it being useless. Plus the fact that Sakon/Ukon could slip in Kisei Kikai no Jutsu if she tries coming close to them with paper surrounding him. Jirobo can also use hiding like a mole to wait for a counter and use Doton Kekkai: Dorō Dōmu (allowing Kimmimaro to use his bones inside the dome if he's part) or Kido just webs the weakest section and other parts of the dome making it bad if she tries to escape from there as she runs into it. Not to mention she'll be losing chakra while inside it.

There's also the fact that Tayua can use summonings that can release this

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.Konan would have a hand full with other opponents and their various techniques. Adding Kimmi makes it terrible fight...Most of these aren't needed when Genjutsu ends the fight.

 

[Apêx1]

Not that this really matters since Konan has shown she can still hear like when she was listening to Obito's talk about the Akatuski in her paper state...The main point of Genjutsu is to aim at the senses...It frames the senses.

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Not to mention, Edo's don't have organs and yet Itachi was trapped in Tayuya's Genjutsu.

Wot? This is a manga. HOW she hears is irrelevant. That's like saying Sasori hearing=he's prone to Sound Genjutsu even though we know he only has a heart as stated by the manga. Same with Kakuzu, he ONLY has hearts, so same applies to him. Here's an actual explanation of how Genjutsu works. CLEARLY stated that it works on the cranial nerves ie on the brain [

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Nope...Kidomaru traps her main body whether or not in her paper form. Unless you're suggesting she'll completely spread which would be useless. Once she's distracted, she's left vulnerable for attacks like this. There's no way in hell's world she's dodging that while having the attention of others.

Makes no sense since she's made of tonnes of individual papers. The webs stick to a single paper on the external shell, anything internal of that is unaffected by the web's stickiness. That much should be logical.

Obito didn't tank but stopped the sword attack, unless you're suggesting his own hand has more physical prowess than that sword as he ripped his arm off

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..Not that really has a meaning to why her paper bombs would destroy these people with enhanced CM2 durability. Plus the fact that Kido with enhanced CM2 durability can add his gold armor to increase the chances of it being useless. Plus the fact that Sakon/Ukon could slip in Kisei Kikai no Jutsu if she tries coming close to them with paper surrounding him. Jirobo can also use hiding like a mole to wait for a counter and use Doton Kekkai: Dorō Dōmu (allowing Kimmimaro to use his bones inside the dome if he's part) or Kido just webs the weakest section and other parts of the dome making it bad if she tries to escape from there as she runs into it. Not to mention she'll be losing chakra while inside it.

Stopping the sword attack with his hand is no longer a feat then? So are you telling me if I put Tayuya's CM2 hand there instead of Obito's, she could've stopped the sword too? I agree Kido can tank it since he's extremely durable, but that doesn't change that he'll lose this since she doesn't need to damage him externally. She simply needs to suffocate him and enclose him paper as to blind him. Once that's done she can blow off his limbs without him knowing that she's using paper bombs. Why would Konan try to come close to them? Lol. She's manipulating the paper, not her own body. And even then, they can't use that jutsu on her since she's not an actual body. And if they did then they'd die the moment she dismantles the paper. When did Jirobo use hiding like a mole, scans please? And anyways, Dome is a ground attack. Konan flies so it's irrelevant.

There's also the fact that Tayua can use summonings that can release this

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.Konan would have a hand full with other opponents and their various techniques. Adding Kimmi makes it terrible fight...Most of these aren't needed when Genjutsu ends the fight.

They're far too slow to hit Konan. And anyways, this is simply assuming Konan doesn't just one shot her with a barrage of paper shurikens which she's too slow to dodge. Same applies to Jirobo. Same applies to Sakon/Ukon.

 

[Beans2]

Konan being immune to genjutsu because she doesn't have a brain is ridiculous. Zetsu doesn't have a brain, but he got caught in genjutsu. Obviously there is some unexplained intelligence system in people like Konan, Kakuzu, Suigetsu, and Sasori that allows them to interpret sounds and images despite their lack of a brain.

 

[super yang]

Konan wins by feats

the only threat on paper is kidomaru, but her mobility & stealth sh1ts on his range game.

the 2nd scene is more of the same, with kimimaro getting hard countered, & the unnamed trio getting blitzed

 

[Haizaki]

Gonna make sure I treat this joke you're speaking of when I get back Apex.

 

[Apêx1]

Konan being immune to genjutsu because she doesn't have a brain is ridiculous. Zetsu doesn't have a brain, but he got caught in genjutsu. Obviously there is some unexplained intelligence system in people like Konan, Kakuzu, Suigetsu, and Sasori that allows them to interpret sounds and images despite their lack of a brain.

Oh damn, I never thought about Zetsu. Well fuk, you're right. Seems pretty weird though, that Kishi specified the part of the brain which Genjutsu works on yet they can be caught without a brain in the first place. But since Tayuya's Genjutsu is only movement binding, wouldn't that mean Konan can still move in her paper form since she doesn't actually move muscles? She's merely controlling the paper with her mind.

Gonna make sure I treat this joke you're speaking of when I get back Apex.

Don't bother on the Genjutsu part, I concede on that. Tell me how she can survive long enough to use her Genjutsu before Konan demolishes her with a swarm of papers.

So Tsukuyomi would be useless on Konan?

I thought it would before.

 

[Haizaki]

Don't bother on the Genjutsu part, I concede on that. Tell me how she can survive long enough to use her Genjutsu before Konan demolishes her with a swarm of papers.

Loool...? How she can survive long enough? Despite having her teammates around? 4-5 members? Not sure if serious.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

can't she blitz the crap outta them?

 

[Troi]

Sound 4/5 easy solo and I like Konan but she wouldn't be able to keep up with so many unique attacks... It would be almost impossible for anyone, really. You have spears, arrows and harpoons hard as rocks mixed with sticky silk traps, Jirobo's strength and growth plus his CM which makes him stronger and if we're talking edo, you can forget any little percentage of a win. Tayuya's summons are ridiculous plus that adds three (?) more teammates basically with brute strength, Sakon and Ukon so add two more members instead of one... And then Kimimaro? Maybe edo? Let's not go there... And they all have CM regardless so yeah... This isn't really a fair MU. Konan won't win. Period.

Sound 4/5 med diff.