Minato dont even need to be in the dome. He would just FTG out and wait for Kisame. Brains over brawns, no idiot is going to stay in there to just swim around with someone who is made to swim. He might as well transport the dome into a lava and call it a day if Kisame dont want to come out.
Even His clone can do this, the original don't even need to be there. Its already proven that his clone can do Harashin. Better than worst Minato is a genius, he can use his clone as bait so Kisame can go touch him to steal chakra and just tag him while he at it. Once Kisame is tagged it is over, Minato can teleport to him anytime, or teleport Kisame out anytime. There's a lot of factor, plus if you talking about KCM, that means he have access to Kurama powers, which in this case his rasengan power scale should be around a Bijuu bomb level, easily destroy that water dome.
The bolded are entirely wrong, sometimes baseless.
Let's start with this. Minato's speed is not even capable of being compared to Kisame's or Bee's when underwater. Bee has been shown using the extra tails as a way to propell himself through the Water Dome. Whereas Kisame has proven that both when and when not transformed, he is a speedy bastard in water.
Minato will be swimming, yes. Swimming. Not running. Who's to say he can even swim as fast as he runs? Look what happens here to Bee, a fast shinobi when he is forced to swim[
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Now, from here we can counter the shadow clone plot you have hatched for Minato. While, it is a good idea. Kisame won't be falling for it. You've mentioned the fact that KCM gives him near limitless chakra, apparently? Look how quickly the Hachibi's chakra was absorbed here[
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Returning to the Shadow Clone Argument, nah. Kisamehada is a sensor[
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Anything caught in the current will not be capable of escaping without being ripped apart. Quite the deadly jutsu, no? And, if this counter does you no good. Who's to say Kisame does not form a Mizu Bunshin or two before putting this Water Dome up? With each Mizu Bunshin, they could technically be capable of fusing with Samehada and gaining the same abilities as the original.
Just a few points that I should have mentioned earlier, that you may think are incorrect. I'll take this time to clear up my last two paragraphs. The Five Feeding Sharks is indeed a ninjutsu capable of being used by Kisame. It requires simply a dash of blood and a thrust. [
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And, as for the Mizu Bunshin idea. It's not entirely out there to think such a thing. The Mizu Bunshin have ALL capabilities as the original, just to a lesser extent. The idea of them possessing a fusion form; Something that hasn't even been shown to rely on chakra, and even if it did would be no problem for the clones of Kisame. Is an entirely plausible thing.
If you still do not believe me on the Mizu Bunshin idea, take a look at what the DB has to say on this jutsu.
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So, Kisame could either trap one of the Minato's, once again. Swimming, not foot speed. There is nothing to suggest he is capable of rivaling Kisame or Bee in the water, and he has yet to reveal chakra arms to help push him and increase his speed. Or, he could have Mizu Bunshin, before the Water Dome arises, to track down and capture and drain one of the Minato's.
This might get to the part where you assume that he can't have this sort of prep, the OP has stated no such thing and without knowledge; I doubt Minato would notice the Water Dome Moving swiftly enough to explore the idea of leaving a kunai behind to get washed away. So, I shall assume it's full knowledge.
An added note; to all who are using the Naruto blitzing of Kisame; Stop it. He was incredibly weakened at that point. His movements were lessened, it's obvious at how much of a disadvantage he was. While I am not saying Kisame can react to everything. There's no need to assume that every simple thing that any speedy character does to him will catch him of guard and defeat him.
Ya i forgot about that ..But what happens when he reaches him anyways.. placign seals on him is moot because Merged Kisame absorbs chakra to the touch so the seal would be absorbed instantly, Rasengan is tanked, and he really has nothing else, Meanwhile Kisame has GSB and 1000 sharks up his sleeve
Reaches him? How is he reaching him? he couldn't reach bee without tricking bee. The entire point of this is for minato or his clone to get out of WD. With one moving north and one moving south, one will eventually get out considering the WD can't move in 2 directions at the exact same time. Once out, there's no point of WD.
GSB is useless because of FtG seal.
1000 Sharks can simply be destroyed by rasengans/kunais/summoning toads etc.
EDIT: Guy destroyed 1000 sharks with air friction. He beat them with some air pressure and ignited air, they're not that resiliant...
PS. I'm only trying to counter WD here as it is pretty much the only thing kisame has that can take on even alive minato. The rest of his arsenal can be countered by other means.
Reaches him? How is he reaching him? he couldn't reach bee without tricking bee. The entire point of this is for minato or his clone to get out of WD. With one moving north and one moving south, one will eventually get out considering the WD can't move in 2 directions at the exact same time. Once out, there's no point of WD.
GSB is useless because of FtG seal.
1000 Sharks can simply be destroyed by rasengans/kunais/summoning toads etc.
EDIT: Guy destroyed 1000 sharks with air friction. He beat them with some air pressure and ignited air, they're not that resiliant...
PS. I'm only trying to counter WD here as it is pretty much the only thing kisame has that can take on even alive minato. The rest of his arsenal can be countered by other means.
Exactly :s So how is escape futile? How is kisame moving WD left and right at the same time? Shadow clone moves left, minato moves right. Kisame can go either or, not both. Escape is inevitable :s
Exactly :s So how is escape futile? How is kisame moving WD left and right at the same time? Shadow clone moves left, minato moves right. Kisame can go either or, not both. Escape is inevitable :s
lol well this is starting to run in circles, and like i said, i have no interest in arguing this. I already argued Minato VS kisame against forbidden tech and conceded defeat because i couldn't effectively get out of WD. That was because I had no idea how much chakra minato had, and i only had Kyuubi attack minato feats. Now i have massive chakra reserves, Shadow clone jutsu, apparantly limitless kunai (he pulled 6 kunai out of his ass against zetsu), KCM boosts(speed, power, etc), and remote FTG. Minato can't lose this battle.
Infact, Minato kills these 2 before they prep as naruto was able to utterly shushin speed blitz kisame. Minato would tag kisame and sasuke off the bat and kill them next go before they figured out his abilities. KM minato can't lose this, i just decided to take some time to counter WD since it's the only threat.
lol well this is starting to run in circles, and like i said, i have no interest in arguing this. I already argued Minato VS kisame against forbidden tech and conceded defeat because i couldn't effectively get out of WD. That was because I had no idea how much chakra minato had, and i only had Kyuubi attack minato feats. Now i have massive chakra reserves, Shadow clone jutsu, apparantly limitless kunai (he pulled 6 kunai out of his ass against zetsu), KCM boosts(speed, power, etc), and remote FTG. Minato can't lose this battle.
Infact, Minato kills these 2 before they prep as naruto was able to utterly shushin speed blitz kisame. Minato would tag kisame and sasuke off the bat and kill them next go before they figured out his abilities. KM minato can't lose this, i just decided to take some time to counter WD since it's the only threat.
