[Discussion] Kizaru VS Doflamingo Pirates

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There's no pattern.
It was Aokiji who hit the first shot on WB. Again he stopped WB when he was rushing towards the plaza.
That fight was short and brief, not to mention he couldn't put any damage on WB, unlike Kizaru and Akainu. Then the fight progressed to Aokiji vs Jozu, third commander and weaker than the captain and 1st commander.

Now Kizaru's stopping that bisento isn't a big feat as Aokiji himself did that n tried to froze WB before Jozu come to rescue WB.
Lol, freezing bisento doesn't require any physical strength. Pinning it down with one foot against the strongest man on the other hand is a physical strength feat only matched by Akainu. Thus, Kizaru/Akainu > Aokiji in physical strength and also speed.

There's nothing that shows Kizaru has Awakening.
Not showing /=/ doesn't have it. If Doflamingo and Crocodile, whom are fodders to Kizaru have Awakening, then it's no surprise Kizaru has it. It's common sense really.

Again no big feat since Aokiji also stopped that bisento.
Scan of him physically doing that?

His DF is not the weakest. We have all seen what happened to PH where half the island is frozen.
And let's not forget he simply beat guys like Saul n Jozu by freezing them.
Kizaru's Yasakani Magatama was blowing up Aokiji's Ice Age. Akainu's Meteor Volcano was also blowing his Ice Age. Now can you show me instances where Aokiji's DF shows superiority over his colleagues?

Lol if Kizaru is above Aokiji then that means Kizaru = Akainu.
Well, Aokiji nearly stalemated Akainu, and Kizaru has better feats so it's no surprise he can equal or beat Akainu.
 

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That fight was short and brief, not to mention he couldn't put any damage on WB, unlike Kizaru and Akainu. Then the fight progressed to Aokiji vs Jozu, third commander and weaker than the captain and 1st commander.
He still fought WB twice n second time WB wasn't able to do much when he started freezing him.
It doesn't matter if he went to fight other guys after that encounter since Kizaru himself was fighting different guys at different point of time.
Another point is Marco kicked Kizaru n Aokiji and the result was same. Both went flying. Not to forget that Kizaru knew what was coming whereas Aokiji was concentrated on Luffy.

Lol, freezing bisento doesn't require any physical strength. Pinning it down with one foot against the strongest man on the other hand is a physical strength feat only matched by Akainu. Thus, Kizaru/Akainu > Aokiji in physical strength and also speed.
No. WB wasn't able to move when he started freezing him. He can't even pull his bisento back as Aokiji was holding it. This is pretty much similar to Kizaru stopping WB's bisento.

Not showing /=/ doesn't have it. If Doflamingo and Crocodile, whom are fodders to Kizaru have Awakening, then it's no surprise Kizaru has it. It's common sense really.
So you are saying just because Croco n Doffy showed Awakening then we should assume anybody who is above them should also have Awakening.
Very few guys has shown Awakening.
Oda has to restrict few guys or else they will become OP because of there hax DF.
We also didn't saw any Awakening feat from BM(if I m not wrong).

Scan of him physically doing that?
WB unable to move can either means his DF basically stopped WSM or his strength helped him so much that another commander has to jump in to bail WB out of that situation.

Kizaru's Yasakani Magatama was blowing up Aokiji's Ice Age. Akainu's Meteor Volcano was also blowing his Ice Age. Now can you show me instances where Aokiji's DF shows superiority over his colleagues?
Aokiji's ice was broken by Luffy at MF n the same guy almost died when Aokiji froze him(when they met him first time).
The point I m trying to make is Luffy's DF is one if the weakest in OPverse yet he use it in such a way that he beats Yonko commander lvl guys now.
Aokiji has simply killed Saul by freezing him, froze ocean, mutilated Yonko commander and changed climate of an island. What else do u need to see considering the fact it's just ice.

Well, Aokiji nearly stalemated Akainu, and Kizaru has better feats so it's no surprise he can equal or beat Akainu.
Lol Kizaru depends only on his DF n hardly use Haki(something which was already Said by Z) itself proves he isn't at Akainu's lvl.
 

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None of them catch him off guard. I think he’s Observation Haki is going to be the best out of the admirals as it goes well with his fruit. But we’ve seen Kizaru being shot at from a blind spot. He’s never going to be caught off guard
I was gonna say that there was a very very minute chance of him being caught of guard and that Sugar would be the winning decider utilising that chance........... Nope. Kizaru easily takes this. He's an admiral and being off guard is something he won't be caught by.
 

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Doffy's crew is OP. If he makes a plan, he can low diff anyone. Sugar here is the secret. VC and manga said that no one knows about her existence or power.
 
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