Kitsuchi and Roshi vs. Darui and Utakata

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Kitsuchi and Roshi vs. Darui and Utakata​

Location: Large forest with a small lake nearby
Distance: 50m
Restrictions: None
Knowledge: Full
Intent: To kill

Breakdown of Teams:

Team 1 (Kitsuchi and Roshi):

Kitsuchi is a large, strong, and highly skilled iwa shinobi, specializing in earth release. His skills allowed him to go so far as being the commander of the shinobi alliance’s second division. His skills include:​
1. Earth release: Rock shelter - this technique creates a dome of earth that can shelter and protect a number of ninjas and vary in size depending on the amount chakra put into the technique.
2. Earth release: Sandwich technique - his self-proclaimed strongest technique, Katsuchi creates two very large slabs of earth (about twice the height of Gedo Mazou) and smashes them together against the opponent.
3. Earth release: Fist rock technique - Katsuchi is able to encompass his fist with earth increasing the strength of his punches.
4. Katsuchi has shown to be proficient in taijutsu, able to defeat multiple zetsu clones in a short amount of time due to his strength and prowess. He is strong enough to punch and move a six-tailed Kinkaku and fast enough to save Darui from a point blank stomp of the Gedo Mazou.​
Roshi was the jinchuriki of Son Goku for 40 years and was from Iwagakure. He left Iwa in order to hone his skills as a junchuriki. His skills include:​
Being the Jinchuriki of the four-tails he Roshi possesses the ability to use Lava Release such as:
1. Lava release: Lava Geyser - this technique shoots a stream of lava from the ground and can be manipulated accordingly.
2. Lava release: Flower-Fruit Mountain - After creating a large amount of lava in an area, Roshi can jump up from it and attack the user from below.
3. Lava release: Scorching Stream Rock technique - Roshi shoots multiple large molten rocks at his opponent with quite an amount of speed.
4. Lava release Armour - Lava envelops Roshi and protects him from many attacks, especially close physical ones.​

Possible Offensive Combos:
1. Super massive lava sandwich technique: Roshi can create a large amount of lava that Katsuchi can manipulate like his sandwich technique to make it even more devastating.
2. Lava fist technique: Again Roshi can create lava that Katsuchi can manipulate around his fist or vice versa to increase their taijutsu prowess.​
a. Possible counters by Team 2: A double black panther technique could penetrate these, or a strong lightning and water combo technique.​

Defensive Combos:
1. Lava rock shelter/wall: Again, Katsuchi/Roshi could create an even stronger defense by implementing lava into the rock shelter technique that would be an even greater deterrent to attacking.​

Team 2 (Darui and Utakata):

Darui is a powerful Kumo shinobi with the storm release kekkei genkai. He is revered enough in Kumogakure to be one of A’s bodyguards and amongst the shinobi alliance to be the commander of the first division. His skills include:​
1. Water release: Water Encampment Wall - A very good defensive water technique that creates a large wall of water.
2. Lightning release: Wave of Inspiration - Darui creates a large amount of lightning from his hands that shoots out towards his opponents.
3. Lightning release: Black Panther - Darui is able to manipulate a special form of lightning, black lightning, into a panther and attack foes.
4. Shadow clone technique - Creates clones of equivalent chakra amounts per clone.
5. Double Black Panther - With a clone, Darui can use two Black Panther’s simultaneously.
6. Storm release: Storm Circus - Darui manipulates lightning and water to create multiple lasers that can attack the foe with the utmost precision towards multiple foes in any direction.
7. Kenjutsu - Darui has a cleaver sword that he is very proficient with and can imbue it with lightning, increasing its power.​
Utakata was the jinchuriki of Saiken and was a missing-nin from Kirigakure. His skills include:​
1. Being the six-tails junchuriki, Utakata takes on Saiken’s ability to manipulate alkaline, or corrosive, substances (Leech Gap and Corrosive Gas). Although not a perfect jinchurki, he can transform all the way into the six-tails form.
2. Soap Bubble Ninjutsu - Utakata uses a bubble blower in combination with water release to manipulate bubbles in a variety of ways:​
a. Water release: bubbles technique - This sends out a large amount of bubbles into the air that Utakata can control and manipulate. He has been shown to float inside them, explode them upon contact or will, fill them with acid, smoke, ink, water, slime, and light. These can drown foes, blind them, disintegrate them if trapped in the bubbles immobilize them, etc. He can also use it defensively by creating a dome to protect himself and others from certain attacks.
b. Bubble clone technique - Utakata can create clones out of bubbles that pop like a bubble when defeated.​

Offensive Combos:
1. Water release: bubble technique + Lightning release: wave of inspiration - creates electrified bubbles that could do significantly greater damage to foes.
2. Bubble technique + Laser Circus - utilizing a large amount of bubbles on the battlefield, Darui could use his beams to hit each bubble causing them to explode with increased power.
3. Utakata could also use his bubbles as a distraction while Darui could use an offensive technique.​
a. Possible counters by Team 1: Katsuchi could create a large earth wall that would make it not possible for all of the bubbles to reach them. Roshi could counter with many mini molten rocks to dispel the bubbles.​

Defensive Combos:
1. Lightning imbued bubble dome - imbuing the bubble dome would further deter and protect from attacks.
2. Alkaline water encampment wall - a corrosive wall of water that makes it even more difficult for attacks to break through.​
a. Possible counters by team 1: Katsuchi using an A-S ranked earth technique could physically overpower the above.​

So that's an overview of their abilities and possible combinations and counters to each others tactics.

Who do you think would win and Why? I would love to get feedback etc etc.
I personally think that Darui and Utakata would win this one, and at least one reason for this is because Darui's Storm release is > Roshi's Lava release and I think that they have higher stamina overall.​

(P.S. Under control of Obito, both Saiken and Son Goku were shown to use Tailed Beast Ball etc, and since it is unsure whether Utakata and Roshi are perfect jinchuriki's, whether they could use such techniques is unsure. In my opinion if one of them can because of this, then both of them could and vice versa so I think they offset either way.)
 

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Utakata is the worst ninja ever. He got pwned and humiliated, I'm glad his girlfriend didn't see it.

Darui is great, but Kitsuchi needed to rescue him twice.

This is easily Kitsuchi and Roshi.
 

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Kitsuchi and Roshi. reasonings? Combo between Kitsuchi being more experienced and Utakata holding Darui back. xd
 

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utakata from manga feats can melt anything on par with mei with his bijuu if he goes bijuu mode. roshi was said in databook to have extensively trained to get control over his biju. so he should at least be able to go cloaked or V2.
flower fruit mountain may kill utakata before utakata goes 6 tailed though. so i say kitsuchi is fried by storm release then melted by corrosive acid from the 6 tailed slug. roshi goes lava armour and burns up daruis sword before going bijuu mode himself and engaging in a titanic bijuu duel. since roshi should be more perfected and in control he wins
 

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..Do people really believe that Ukataka is so shitty just because of his filler episodes?

Heads up people, thoes episodes took place 10 episodes before Naruto fought Pain and they made Naruto look like just as much of a useless *****. Base this off Manga feats. though they be few and far between.
 

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offscreen. without apparently going to his bijuu power, being the 4th strongest of them all.

..Do people really believe that Ukataka is so shitty just because of his filler episodes?

Heads up people, thoes episodes took place 10 episodes before Naruto fought Pain and they made Naruto look like just as much of a useless *****. Base this off Manga feats. though they be few and far between.

So true. Utakata was abducted and killed by the six paths of pain, its not like he was taken down by a fodder ninja.
 

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Kitsuchi and Roshi Extremely High diff, the fact that team 2 has a stronger tailed beast advatntage makes the fight difficult to win, no matter how weak Ukataka is.
 

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So true. Utakata was abducted and killed by the six paths of pain, its not like he was taken down by a fodder ninja.

Well from the looks of it, he got taken down by a few missiles by only one of the paths(forgot his name).
 

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Well from the looks of it, he got taken down by a few missiles by only one of the paths(forgot his name).

you can't really say "by the looks of it" because his acctual defeat was off-screen... and was also the same filler arc that made both he and Naruto look worthless before the Pain fight

Also, think of the fact that Pain went personally to capture him, this is while Kisame, Konan, (and Itachi?) were still available members of akatsuki
 

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Well from the looks of it, he got taken down by a few missiles by only one of the paths(forgot his name).

The asura path creates rockets and other mechanized/robotic weapons and armor. In a ninja, non-technology, world. That is pretty powerful in its own right if you ask me. The asura path's rocket created a very large crater in the middle of the forest and Utakata was still alive, albeit covered in a pile of rubble.

With that he also transformed into the six-tails and was able to suppress the forbidden jutsu Fury that had the ability to destroy whole villages. I believe that is a descent feat in of itself.
 

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Kitsuchi and Roshi would be able to create some insane combination attacks which could include an Earth Prison covered in Lava Release to melt the person inside due to the humidity and the pure heat inside it. Both of them also have better defenses than Team 2 with Kitsuchi's Earth Defensive Walls and Roshi's highly regarded Lava Release armour.

However Darui and Utakata can also combine his corrosion style with lightning based techniques to further the destructive power of the technique as well as give it a second offensive use rather than just melting the opponent.

One thing that bothers me is if the both got into their Jinchuriki V2 Modes then Darui and Kitsuchi would become non-factors in the fight effectively making it a 1 vs 1, Lava vs Corrosion.

Its hard to judge who would win out of Saiken and Son Goku but i would give the 4-tails the edge simply because of his super strength, lava release which would evaporate the acid as well as its intense heat making it share the same corrosive-like ability with his acid based attacks. His mobility is also a factor considering the 6-tails is a slug like creature (natural weakness of speed).
 

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you can't really say "by the looks of it" because his acctual defeat was off-screen... and was also the same filler arc that made both he and Naruto look worthless before the Pain fight

Also, think of the fact that Pain went personally to capture him, this is while Kisame, Konan, (and Itachi?) were still available members of akatsuki

I think I just underestimate Utakata because he shoots freaking bubbles as his attack lol.
 

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Kitsuchi and Roshi would be able to create some insane combination attacks which could include an Earth Prison covered in Lava Release to melt the person inside due to the humidity and the pure heat inside it. Both of them also have better defenses than Team 2 with Kitsuchi's Earth Defensive Walls and Roshi's highly regarded Lava Release armour.

However Darui and Utakata can also combine his corrosion style with lightning based techniques to further the destructive power of the technique as well as give it a second offensive use rather than just melting the opponent.

One thing that bothers me is if the both got into their Jinchuriki V2 Modes then Darui and Kitsuchi would become non-factors in the fight effectively making it a 1 vs 1, Lava vs Corrosion.

Its hard to judge who would win out of Saiken and Son Goku but i would give the 4-tails the edge simply because of his super strength, lava release which would evaporate the acid as well as its intense heat making it share the same corrosive-like ability with his acid based attacks. His mobility is also a factor considering the 6-tails is a slug like creature (natural weakness of speed).

And that is really the kicker, we just don't know the extent of their abilities as a jinchuriki. I just thought that even jounin level fights can be interesting and fun.

Do you think that Darui's Storm release and chakra level is high enough to overcome Roshi's Lava release? I think yes because Water is greater than fire and lightning is greater than earth so the combination's of both should mean elemental wise, storm is greater than lava, so then it just comes down to efficiency of Darui and his stamina.
 

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Yeah Ukataka can fight in a variety of ways with his bubbles as they have multiple effects. He also has leech acid.
 

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And that is really the kicker, we just don't know the extent of their abilities as a jinchuriki. I just thought that even jounin level fights can be interesting and fun.

Do you think that Darui's Storm release and chakra level is high enough to overcome Roshi's Lava release? I think yes because Water is greater than fire and lightning is greater than earth so the combination's of both should mean elemental wise, storm is greater than lava, so then it just comes down to efficiency of Darui and his stamina.

Hmm you raise a really interesting point there. Darui's Storm/Gale Release is in the form of lightning but its infused with water so it loses its ability to take out fire. However the lava might be able to conduct the lightning (Lightning > Earth) and break down the armour accordingly. Then again the resistance of the conduction may prove to be high due to the intense heat of the lava.

Overall i would say the heat of the Lava is far too high for electricity to be conducted along it efficiently.
 
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