Kishimoto's Writing...

[Natsu Shazneel]

lol

Years back when I first actively discovered anime FF world it were Beyblade fictions. Some were damn good but few writers kept it the character in character. Most were OOC and AU. And most common were self inserts replacing the original characters even if they still called them Kai and Tyson etc. Kai fans were mad because Tyson had yet again won the championship and the final saw them engaged in a friendly battle but no ending was shown.

I won't be surprised if we see the same here. Naruto/ Sasuke battling it out and camera zooms to Hinata and Sakura laughing in background and then "the end". Though I wouldn't want to imagine member rage after that. Many were still annoyed last time that Kishi never showed if Itachi was better than Nagato or not , for Nagato never really fought himself nor was willing too.

EDit: and oh power ups would be there. Mad power ups mostly. It just would be their favourite character. I can guarantee that.

The biggest issue I see here is that people over react to someone's writing as if they are forced to read it. If they don't understand something they call it asspull. When in the end it is there misconception of understanding the plot or story. It makes them sound very arrogant and know it all's. I guess some people will just never learn till they make a story and realize how hard it really is to please your fans.

 

[Avani]

The biggest issue I see here is that people over react to someone's writing as if they are forced to read it. If they don't understand something they call it asspull. When in the end it is there misconception of understanding the plot or story. It makes them sound very arrogant and know it all's. I guess some people will just never learn till they make a story and realize how hard it really is to please your fans.

It is. And you cannot please everyone so it's better to focus on your story and exactly what your own aim towards the plot was when writing it if any.

Kishi may have ret-conned a few things to fix the plot ( as any long series) but story was always headed in this direction. I am not sure how people missed that.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

It is. And you cannot please everyone so it's better to focus on your story and exactly what your own aim towards the plot was when writing it if any.

Kishi may have ret-conned a few things to fix the plot ( as any long series) but story was always headed in this direction. I am not sure how people missed that.

Me either. Like for example Naruto's character always changed people by his actions. He was acknowledged by them by proving them wrong each time they doubted him. Skip his childhood and go right to the Pein arc. On there we get told he is the "Child of Prophecy". All of a sudden people on the internet react to this as if its something new. Like dude he always had the character to change people's hearts. Kishi just never gave it a label till now. Once he gets that label we get claims that Kishi completely destroyed his character. Like honestly it is a well known fact that Kishi has foreshadowed these things. He is not a perfect writer but he isn't that awful to. Every writer has a flaw, no question about it. There is no reason to complain about it 24/7, on things you clearly do not understand.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Anyway,themes of hard work in the series have definitely turned on it's head though.Only a select few can be among the strongest.

Gai pretty much embodied hard work but he was soon overshadowed by others who were stronger than he could ever be.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Anyway,themes of hard work in the series have definitely turned on it's head though.Only a select few can be among the strongest.

That happens with anything really. The series is near its end.

 

[Avani]

Anyway,themes of hard work in the series have definitely turned on it's head though.Only a select few can be among the strongest.

Gai pretty much embodied hard work but he was soon overshadowed by others who were stronger than he could ever be.

Of course. Isn't that always the case? If I have no aptitude for something then at best I can be an above average at it. If I want to become a painter but have limited creativity then at best I would be be a damn good painter but not good enough to beat Leonardo Da Vinci or Picasso. I would still be enjoying the art and be proud of it and I can still make money from it but it would be silly to fret because I do not have as much talent as them.

I might be better at cooking but may not like it for whatever reasons and thus do not even try - where would it land me?

If Naruto gave up trying would he be able to summon the sage? Hashirama and Madara certainly failed even if on paper they may have been stronger than Naruto and Sasuke and despite having all other requirements to attract the So6P. In the end those two didn't work hard for finding peace but were satisfied with what they had achieved or decided to live in a dream rather than in reality.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Anyway,themes of hard work in the series have definitely turned on it's head though.Only a select few can be among the strongest.

Gai pretty much embodied hard work but he was soon overshadowed by others who were stronger than he could ever be.

Gai is still a legend though. Can't wait till they add 8 Gates Gai in video games.

 

[Nagi]

If half the people wrote the manga here. I guarantee you it would be boring. You would see no power ups. Just same old same old slow fighting.

Lol. After Itachi death, sasuke should just become a wanderer. Then find a 8 years old uchiha kid in a small village and learn that danzo have been trying hunt that kid down for years. As sasuke protect the kid, he started to realize the dark side of the hidden leaf village and learned the truth about his brother. As he battle all danzo best men, he started to go blind due to his MS that he awoken when seeing the 8 yr old kid in danger. In his battle against danzo, he proved to danzo that it take more than a great set of eyes to be a great shinobi. Then hebi group show up with Itachi eyes telling him that a war is coming and that they need to prepare for it. Sasuke take the hebi to an island to train for the war. End result, that 8 yr old kid gives sasuke a reason live and think about the future.

Like my story???? XD

That 8 yr old uchiha turn out to be shisui's son!

 

[paratise]

My beautiful rant says it for the current stage of manga:

I am aware of the fact that there had been countless threads/posts about this week's manga but f@ck it. This chapter and current stage of manga deserves so.

I will give my insight on current stage of manga (partly copied from another post of mine):

Seems like it was made as a field day for certain groups of people Kakashi fanboys and Sasuke haters. Like how the chapter Sasuke said Sakura is useless was a field day for Sakura haters, and the chapter she gave Obito chakra was field day for Sakura/SasuSaku lovers.

Manga is going so much downhill that it is nothing but fanservice for one week after another for certain groups of people. Little development in character, not even a drop of sense and establishments that had been existed in NV, lack of depth in ideals etc. there is near nothing anymore. Chapters do not give anything no matter how many occurances are.

I used to get excited for so little but so nicely portrayted things in this manga; Zabuza and Haku's final moments, Orochimaru's reveal, Lee's fight with Gaara, Sasori's reveal as a puppet, Kisame' death etc. these are things made someone read hundreds of chapter; intruging little things which can make someone surprise, relate, sympathisize, think about themselves not powerscaling that went off charts and throwing logic and development away for the sake of fanservice.

That's it folks. Whatever happened to everything that someone can like, they are burried and getting rotten in Kishi's backyard so he can milk this thing out further with more fanservice. Kakashi was the guy i liked for saying 'he lost in the way of life' when he got late, called copy ninja and had 1000 jutsu, had a good background and resolve at Kakashi gaiden not the guy who spammed MS and pulled out PS.

I am not saying it is wrong to try to please fans. No that's how a story can be read. But there are better ways to make someone pleased for what they read than giving popular characters powerups and nothing more. Like how people grown to like this manga back then.

Inb4 someone says "don't like don't read" just understand that critism and opinions towards something are not always positive and people are allowed to have opinions. Should i leave my country because i do not like the ones currently ruling it? No people think different just deal with it.

For the peeps who say "you take the manga too seriously" yeah i would like to take something i read and watch seriously.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

My beautiful rant says it for the current stage of manga:

Ok in your view what sort of power should each character have right now? How would you have ended this story or made it better?

 

[Nagi]

Ok in your view what sort of power should each character have right now? How would you have ended this story or made it better?

No power up. Rip each tail beast out one by one! Then seal or kill Kaguya! Naruto become hokage. Sasuke launch an open clan police force that watch over all nations and small villages. Neji come back to life but it really black zesty hiding in his body for part 3.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Lol. After Itachi death, sasuke should just become a wanderer. Then find a 8 years old uchiha kid in a small village and learn that danzo have been trying hunt that kid down for years. As sasuke protect the kid, he started to realize the dark side of the hidden leaf village and learned the truth about his brother. As he battle all danzo best men, he started to go blind due to his MS that he awoken when seeing the 8 yr old kid in danger. In his battle against danzo, he proved to danzo that it take more than a great set of eyes to be a great shinobi. Then hebi group show up with Itachi eyes telling him that a war is coming and that they need to prepare for it. Sasuke take the hebi to an island to train for the war. End result, that 8 yr old kid gives sasuke a reason live and think about the future.

Like my story???? XD

That 8 yr old uchiha turn out to be shisui's son!

Wow, what a story bro. You made Sasuke sound like Naruto a bit here. He seems like someone who would care about a 8 year old. Sasuke would probably give him a stare and leave. Also wasn't Shisui like 15 or 16 when he died? You giving him a baby? What is this a asspull? I think I will go on Youtube now and make a video of myself screaming my eyes out! You destroyed the Uchiha! Now everyone would think every 15 to 16 year old Uchiha has a baby now. That is gross!

 

[Nagi]

Wow, what a story bro. You made Sasuke sound like Naruto a bit here. He seems like someone who would care about a 8 year old. Sasuke would probably give him a stare and leave. Also wasn't Shisui like 15 or 16 when he died? You giving him a baby? What is this a asspull? I think I will go on Youtube now and make a video of myself screaming my eyes out! You destroyed the Uchiha! Now everyone would think every 15 to 16 year old Uchiha has a baby now. That is gross!

It been 6 years since the uchiha massacre so that age range is fine. They got Itachi killing the whole clan at the age of 14 so why not. Because that boy is an uchiha is what gonna touch sasuke heart. Only a uchiha can understand another uchiha. Sasuke just need a lil sword of the stranger touch XD

Think about the future, in order to see some shit happen, you gotta flip the character emotions back and forth.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

No power up. Rip each tail beast out one by one! Then seal or kill Kaguya! Naruto become hokage. Sasuke launch an open clan police force that watch over all nations and small villages. Nemo come back to life but it really black zesty hiding in his body for part 3.

So In other words you would make Naruto weaker than Sasuke. I see what you did there.

It been 6 years since the uchiha massacre so that age range is fine. They got Itachi killing the whole clan at the age of 14 so why not. Because that boy is an uchiha is what gonna touch sasuke heart. Only a uchiha can understand another uchiha. Sasuke just need a lil sword of the stranger touch XD

Think about the future, in order to see some shit happen, you gotta flip the character emotions back and forth.

How old was Shishue when he died?

 

[Nagi]

So In other words you would make Naruto weaker than Sasuke. I see what you did there.




How old was Shishue when he died?

Kcm naruto and ems sasuke.....what's wrong with naruto just being kcm? Lol

Shishue was like an older brother to Itachi so I could easily say 16 or 17.

 

[Avani]

My beautiful rant says it for the current stage of manga:

Except that we are not focused on the current stage of manga. A fine example of how the ranters act- without paying attention to ongoing discussion. Only repeat themselves and do not listen to anyone beyond their own voice.^^ PP

They also forget that on one hand they are denouncing the writer for giving in to fan service and market demand and on the other hand they are angry only because the supposed fanservice was targeting some other fan group than their. In short not writing the manga they wanted him to write and not giving in to their demands.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Kcm naruto and ems sasuke.....what's wrong with naruto just being kcm? Lol

Shishue was like an older brother to Itachi so I could easily say 16 or 17.

Well he will lose all of his charms that he is showing right now. The beasts love him and I love him. Why break that bond?

Yeah too young to get a child. I could see fans throwing tomatoes at you for that kinda asspull.

 

[Ansatsuken]

After all the talk in Part 1 about making your own destiny and not letting yourself be controlled by fate, it turns out that Naruto himself is someone automatically “destined for greatness”. What a crock of shit to introduce at this point in the series after driving home the importance of deciding your own fate.
Remember when Naruto fought Neji? But yet Jiraiya said Naruto was the Child of Prophecy?

Now onto Part 2 with the Asura and Indra garbage. You could say Naruto himself is controlled by fate.

Can't tell if Naruto is about creating your own fate or being apart of fate.

Kishi likes to contradict.

It look like you taken the matter to serious/ for granted

Maybe it part of Kishi plan

Thinking if the world is an uncertain place/possibilities, I mean our real world to be exact

Who is Kishi. He is human from our world.

That mean he can translate what is our world/reality look like into his fiction

Anybody can said this person is destiny, his fate is certain, I'm not controlling by fate so on.

But we can't predict the future.

We unable to know what happening around us that we can't see/sense

The fate, destiny or anything that peoples talking/mentioning/blabbering before can change in an instant/step by step even the person unable to control it

They are talking about abstract concept here referring to Naruto peoples. They can't control those thing, and even they don't have any probability/pre cog manipulation power to said anything about controlling fate, predict the prophecy etc.

This thing can/will change through time

That mean that what Kishi put/write in his manga, the Naruto world also full of possibilities, uncertainties, change and other thing that even the powerful/MC unable to control it

Even I can said I will become the saviour of this world from war like Palestin with Israel, USA with North Korea. Or I said that is my fate to save the world.

But in the end it just mouth saying or over confident but between our journey to reach our goal there are uncertainties/changing/unknowing event that will occur

This is also can be applied to Naruto himself

And actually I'm not seeing anything bad regarding this Kishi's matter
Peace

 

[Avani]

Well he will lose all of his charms that he is showing right now. The beasts love him and I love him. Why break that bond?

Yeah too young to get a child. I could see fans throwing tomatoes at you for that kinda asspull.

Actually he will be giving many Uchiha fans what they want.. lol The ones who will scream for such a plot will be labeled Canon Nazies. And there will be a disclaimer saying "Don't like don't read.".

Don't even touch MPreg FFs. You may run out screaming.

 

[Nagi]

Well he will lose all of his charms that he is showing right now. The beasts love him and I love him. Why break that bond?

Yeah too young to get a child. I could see fans throwing tomatoes at you for that kinda asspull.

**** them beasts. Be real here, after the war is over, somebody going to throw a fit talking about naruto got all the tails beasts so the hidden leaf village is too damn powerful. That will birth fear! No one man should have all that power. Unless naruto plan to drop his dream of becoming hokage and be the avatar while sasuke become the hokage like zuko.