Kishimoto's biggest mistake

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Nah its Kubo who has lost his mind. His manga doesn't even rank in the top ten anymore even in Shounen jump. Lmao :leaf:
While Naruto was ranked first again just recently. :rolleyes:
Naruto > Bleach in Rankings, Ratings, Popularity, sales, story, fights...i.e. everything.....so get over it. :rolleyes:
that does not mean the story is better... it was better when it started and it picked up a lot of fans...

right now they are clinging on to see the conclusions so obviously fans will come in masses to see the end...
 

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Sasuke is my fav && I will defensively protect his character. But I love narutos character as well this manga wouldn't be the same without him. I love this manga, I'm a fan of the whole manga not just one character.
 

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Kishi made a few mistakes, but nobody is perfect. To write a manga for 10+ years and continuesly come up with new ideas and ways to conclude it is no easy task. I respect kishi for his work, and naruto will without a doubt be remembered as one of the greatest mangas of its time. With that being said, things could have been done a bit different.

If I were to ever produce a manga, I would start with the ending and work my way towards the middle, before starting from the beginning. This solves a few problems with inconsistencies. I would also make sure I have my final antagonist in mind from the start to ensure that some hints/references could be made later on.

I don't think kishi did this with some aspecfs of Naruto. There were some definitive inconsistencies throughout the manga. Obito was not a well thought out character, his reveal really broke the pace the manga was following up to that point, and everything felt forced after that. The juubi was rushed, and taken away/dealt with too fast and too easily. The "progenator" of the naruto universe being a gigantic chakra monster with sinister emotion, should not have been controlled so easily.

Madaras defeat was rushed, I wanted to see what he was capable of with double rinnegan and the third juubi sharingan. Being stabbed in the back by black zetsu was completely ridiculous, and in no way should have brought him down.

This brings me to Kaguya. In my opinion Kishis greatest mistake. Kaguya had "potential" as a final antagonist. I say this because, if she had been mentioned earlier on in the manga, it would have made her coming back all that more terrifying. For such a "god" like character, she lacked any real strength or intelligence that made her anymore divine or deserving of that title. Her character was never really fully explained, nor were her actions or reasons for bringing about the infinite tsukynomi. Why did she exist to be a final villain? What was her purpose? Her story? Why should she have been feared more than Masada or obito? You see there was nothing that made her special or unique.

She lacked character development, and a reason for "being" black zetsu was wasted as intelligence, and did nothing but order around this "god". Had she been revived earlier, or talked about more. Given the opportunity to understand her character, or her true motives might have put her in the deserving spot of "final antagonist". I wanted someone who pushed the boundaries of the alliance. Deaths, depair, torture or sadness! Something that made the characters doubt the possibility of handling such a "god" but instead she was sucker punched by a naked clone.

End of rant. Sorry for the wall.
 
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I like Naruto and I still like it. I like both Naruto and Sasuke so I don't really have a horse in that race. Some of my favorites are not those two characters. While there are arcs I have not been too crazy about, Kaguya being one of them, overall I like the manga and am sorry to see it ending.

That being said, I'm sure there are almost as many opinions about the manga as there are fans. I think Kishi is laughing all the way to the bank and is not overly concerned what people are saying in forums, many of whom read it for free, are saying about his manga. I think he is more concerned about his Japanese fans. Long after the series is over he will still be making money from movies, games. books, etc.

If he was as concerned about the rest of the fan-base the movie would be released in other countries too and not just Japan. I don't think separating his fans was the point of the manga and while I would have changed some things if I were writing it, it is his life's work and he will write what he wishes to convey. There's only a few weeks left you can either pack it in now or see it through to the end.
 

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On the contrary, i like Kishi's work as a whole. It's not even his fault if the fanbase is existed, divided, fought with others, etc.
As Naruto fans, you should know originally Kishi is more interested on making seinen genre manga, before an editor whom he respected so much suggested him to make a shounen one because the former believed his potential. At least Kishi tried it out and managed to gather a lot of fans through the story.

His art style is unique and seems like more people prefer Naruto. I mean, including business-wise. In my country, there's so much of Naruto merchandise than other shounen series, which tbh i find it frustrating at some part (you can guess which one is my other fav series :heh: ) but well, it's a good sign. We as the elders may feel disappoint with the recent arc and lots of mistakes/loopholes occurred in the manga, still we have to remember how excited we are about Naruto in the past, when we were younger. Kids' and adults' viewpoints are different, so if we're still a child as of now, we might not even care or understand what was wrong with it.

For me, Kishi has been doing his best. Not by splitting the fanbase but by attempting to balance with his own way of ending things and fans' wishes. The division happens because of fans' stupid mistake or acting like some kinda colloseum forumers, which is very funny to me. Narutard, Sauce, Nardo, Sexsuke, Obitard, Kishit etc... These people whom keep using such names over and over in their posts while bashing are the one building up the hatred + splitting the fanbase. Then, they act like a so-called boss by replying "Oh looked like someone was butt hurt~" to any person protests about it. Lame. :)
 
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