Kishimoto seems to bundling up everything now.

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He's wrapping things up. This war has been going on for the longest time.
this battle has been going on for the longest time too, the battle started off as Naruto and Killer Bee fighting Obito and the Reanimated Jinchuriki and it looks like it's going to end with Team 7 and the Reanimated Hokage fighting Kaguya and Black Zetsu.
 

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Kaguya was the one who started this whole thing, she stole the fruit which resulted in the birth of the Ten Tails.

She invented the Infinite Tsukuyomi, she is what Madara wants to become, and like BZ said, Madara was just like Obito in the end, this is the ultimate irony, he used so many others only to learn in the end that he was being used as well, its the perfect way for him to be defeated, beaten by the very same thing he did to so many others.
that's what is actually happening currently. But Madara has no emotions like Obito had. He's pure evil. He'll be back again once Naruto and Sasuke weakens Kaguya.
 

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Also if you use Obito as an example of Madara defeating Kaguya, then I should point out that the only reason Madara "leashed" Obito was because Naruto pulled the Tailed Beasts out of them then BZ grabbed Obito and forced him to help, and Madara doesn't have BZ on his side anymore.

Also Madara knew Obito would betray him, he didn't know BZ would.
 

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That would be pretty cool, actually. Kaguya being the final villain sounds a bit lame to me. I don't mind if Madara takes that role instead.
 

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that's what is actually happening currently. But Madara has no emotions like Obito had. He's pure evil. He'll be back again once Naruto and Sasuke weakens Kaguya.

That isn't Kishi's style, Madara is already being set up for a TNJ, every major villain in the manga is inevitably TNJ, that's why Kishi had to bring in Kaguya who is pure evil.

Also Kishi can't bring closure to Hashirama's story unless they reunite and reconcile, Kaguya was created to give the manga a villain that is pure evil, Madara is about to get humbled.
 

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I had the same thought of madara taking over his body later.
 

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That isn't Kishi's style, Madara is already being set up for a TNJ, every major villain in the manga is inevitably TNJ, that's why Kishi had to bring in Kaguya who is pure evil.

Also Kishi can't bring closure to Hashirama's story unless they reunite and reconcile, Kaguya was created to give the manga a villain that is pure evil, Madara is about to get humbled.

This is Madara we're talking about. Though Kishi is TNJ fan, TNJ is useless against villains. Madara is a villain.
Kaguya will be paid back. And Black Zetsu will be crushed.
 

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This is Madara we're talking about. Though Kishi is TNJ fan, TNJ is useless against villains. Madara is a villain.
Kaguya will be paid back. And Black Zetsu will be crushed.

People said the same thing about Obito, and Kaguya is a God, Madara is a man who wants to be a God.

People said Obito wouldn't be TNJ.

Madara wants to become like Kaguya, wanting and succeeding are two very different things. The Sage openly said that their is no one who matches her, not even him.

Even the Sage described Madara as a Indra reincarnation that just got out of line, Kaguya is the ancient being who started it all, she is the entire reason the IT is possible, she is the reason the Ten Tails exists, she gave birth to the Sage of the 6 paths.

Also Kishi has implied in several interview that Madara wasn't the final villain, when asked he got vague and said that people should keep watching, he also said Naruto would handle the rest of the battles like this Madara, Juubi, and Sasuke in that order. Kaguya is clearly part of the Juubi.
 

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People said the same thing about Obito, and Kaguya is a God, Madara is a man who wants to be a God.

People said Obito wouldn't be TNJ.

Madara wants to become like Kaguya, wanting and succeeding are two very different things. The Sage openly said that their is no one who matches her, not even him.

Even the Sage described Madara as a Indra reincarnation that just got out of line, Kaguya is the ancient being who started it all, she is the entire reason the IT is possible, she is the reason the Ten Tails exists, she gave birth to the Sage of the 6 paths.

Also Kishi has implied in several interview that Madara wasn't the final villain, when asked he got vague and said that people should keep watching, he also said Naruto would handle the rest of the battles like this Madara, Juubi, and Sasuke in that order. Kaguya is clearly part of the Juubi.

@bold Who said that? everyone knew Obito is bound to TnJ because of Rin RIn RIn he was spouting everytime.
 

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@bold Who said that? everyone knew Obito is bound to TnJ because of Rin RIn RIn he was spouting everytime.

A lot of people, a lot of people.

You would have to look it up, but one person after another said it wouldn't happen, even when the TNJ was happening people denied it.
 

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No I disagree with you. Why introduce her only to get rid off? That wouldn't make any sense you know. Madaras time has come. Kaguya is the Real Deal. Face the Truth guys.
 

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No I disagree with you. Why introduce her only to get rid off? That wouldn't make any sense you know. Madaras time has come. Kaguya is the Real Deal. Face the Truth guys.

to show what her main purpose is.
But Madara will get rid of her soon.
 

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You are right bro, he will take over again and kill kaguya once for all.
 

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that's what is actually happening currently. But Madara has no emotions like Obito had. He's pure evil. He'll be back again once Naruto and Sasuke weakens Kaguya.

Lol No. Madara is not pure Evil. He originally was a kind Man & we all know that & currently he thinks he is the Savior of this World. He thinks he saved everyone. This is NOT how a pure Evil being thinks.

Who we can call pure Evil is Kaguya right now. She's the real deal. She is the Alpha & the Omega of this ****ed up cycle of hatred that is going around NV right now. She is the cause, the beginning of that all & No One but She, will also be the End of it. #Believe #It.
 

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Very nice, respect for this thread :) This sounds the most logical out of every "Theory" I've read about this topic.

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Evryone's forgetting something, though: Kaguya was never evil. Her actions erroneously caused the cycle of hatred that Jiraya, Nagato, Minato, and Kakashi all talked about, but she had good intentions. The whole NV is just a manifestation of it all blowing up in her face. She is probably an enemy of the Juubi and the tree as a result of it all, but her real gripe now is with anyone who ruins her second chance to get it right. Her and Sasuke are not too different in what they want. Naruto relates more to Rikudou.
 
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