Kishimoto pushed CHIKARA out of a cinema release

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Chikara has the runtime, direction, animation and canon gap-bridging relevance for a feature release.

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What else came out in 2012? Road To Ninja.

A movie idea clearly pushed by Kishimoto. Interestingly, Road to Ninja has very average TV animation and was clearly given to the usual Perriot animators, hence the movie prelude episode they released in the anime. Even the movie poster is a manga illustration- hiding the fact their animation was for the most part poor.

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The two were clearly swapped at a very late stage and the Chikara Arc MUST have been a movie production, unfairly redistributed onto TV. IMO RtN is an unfunny gimmick comedy with a bizarrely fan-fic parallel world concept to stand on whilst Chikara could very easily blend into the events of the manga, resolving interesting dynamics and preluding the War arc. Which one do you prefer?

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[Arian]

that was my initial thought back then:

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

that was my initial thought back then:

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I mean Chikara being movie standard is fairly apparent but the actual dating and low animation quality of RtN makes it all make sense. A little sad actually.

 

[Cfighter]

I'll be honest, I have yet to watch the Chikara arc (only seen the first episode). My initial reaction to the first episode was from what I recall, "wtf am I watching" but it was absolutely obvious that the animation was of a movie-caliber quality (or better). So while I can't speak on behalf of the plot of Chikara I can speak on behalf of both the animation quality of the first episode, as well as Road to Ninja as a whole as I did watch that.

I would rather have watched Chikara as a full, uninterrupted movie as it was clearly intended to be and would rather Road to Ninja have been nothing more than another filler arc in the anime—complete with the animation quality of the anime.

 

[MomoSaka]

That arc was weird TBH....
But....is there any information about kishi's new manga....I heard somewhere that he wanted to reveal it at the end of 2016:|

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I'll be honest, I have yet to watch the Chikara arc (only seen the first episode). My initial reaction to the first episode was from what I recall, "wtf am I watching" but it was absolutely obvious that the animation was of a movie-caliber quality (or better). So while I can't speak on behalf of the plot of Chikara I can speak on behalf of both the animation quality of the first episode, as well as Road to Ninja as a whole as I did watch that.

I would rather have watched Chikara as a full, uninterrupted movie as it was clearly intended to be and would rather Road to Ninja have been nothing more than another filler arc in the anime—complete with the animation quality of the anime.

RtN is MUCH more 'filler' than Chikara. Fully agreed.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

RtN was good. The Chikara plot would have been movie-worthy too. The promo in RtN was kind of a letdown, the Alternate K11 didnt even spring into action. At least in Chikara, we could have gotten more K11 action and some comebacks of familiar faces.
It was an option between which to show as a tease, Edo tensei or Tsukuyomi. Since the manga ended with ending the Tsukuyomi, we should have at least gotten a movie where Edo Tensei was centered upon more.

 

[123fire]

But when does Chikara arc happen?!? Between what and what?

 

[HyuugaHeir]

But when does Chikara arc happen?!? Between what and what?

After Kabuto revealed to Tobi the secrets of Edo Tensei, amidst the preparation for the fourth shinobi war.

 

[Reboryushon]

It is interesting how in the Chikara arc we find some elements that are featured in the new anime. The dark chakra snake comes to mind...

 

[Marin]

Nah, it was an official celebration of the 500 anime episodes. It makes more sense to make it an anime special thing rathen than a movie.

Plus, Road to Ninja was a pretty powerful emotional ride. How the 4th movie should've been done while the animation and art weren't half bad. Also, RtN really wouldn't work with the series' continuum at all considering how it's timeline is an utter mess, while the Chikara arc kinda fits but it too has problems (Naruto awakening the Nine Tails mode before he even learned to control it).

It is interesting how in the Chikara arc we find some elements that are featured in the new anime. The dark chakra snake comes to mind...

Well, we had that in the first Shippuden movie before Chikara so...

 

[Cfighter]

Plus, Road to Ninja was a pretty powerful emotional ride. How the 4th movie should've been done while the animation and art weren't half bad. Also, RtN really wouldn't work with the series' continuum at all considering how it's timeline is an utter mess, while the Chikara arc kinda fits but it too has problems (Naruto awakening the Nine Tails mode before he even learned to control it).

Ehh I dunno about that. Some of the filler arcs were so disjointed in the continuity that eventually they ran out of ideas and started setting them in the Part 1 era for no good reason. I don't think RtN as a filler arc would have been so whacky. Plus let's not forget there was a RtN follow up filler arc abruptly placed in the anime, so if you didn't hear/watch of RtN you were likely extremely lost as it was. For that reason alone I would argue RtN being a filler arc, and then the subsequent follow up arc a little later down the line, it would have been an easier transition in both filler arc "plot" and animation quality.

 

[Marin]

Ehh I dunno about that. Some of the filler arcs were so disjointed in the continuity that eventually they ran out of ideas and started setting them in the Part 1 era for no good reason. I don't think RtN as a filler arc would have been so whacky. Plus let's not forget there was a RtN follow up filler arc abruptly placed in the anime, so if you didn't hear/watch of RtN you were likely extremely lost as it was. For that reason alone I would argue RtN being a filler arc, and then the subsequent follow up arc a little later down the line, it would have been an easier transition in both filler arc "plot" and animation quality.

It would be wacky because it was a timeline disaster. We had Naruto know about his parents before the war (yet he only learned about his mother and stuff that happened during his time with Killer B) which completely messes everything up as the movie literally has no point you could logically place it in the timeline. It's just a "what-if" story that stands on it's own.

Other fillers weren't nearly as disjointed. They had inconsistencies in power levels and such but it never butchered the timeline. (Atleast those that I watched haven't.)

What follow up arc are you refering to?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Nah, it was an official celebration of the 500 anime episodes. It makes more sense to make it an anime special thing rathen than a movie.

Plus, Road to Ninja was a pretty powerful emotional ride. How the 4th movie should've been done while the animation and art weren't half bad. Also, RtN really wouldn't work with the series' continuum at all considering how it's timeline is an utter mess, while the Chikara arc kinda fits but it too has problems (Naruto awakening the Nine Tails mode before he even learned to control it).

The fox mode was a prototype version, too different and untamed to count as the same mode he awakens on Turtle Island. Considering it was also spurred out by Kabuto's tinkerings and Kyuubi clones, it's different enough to count as a prelude or set-up rather than a contradiction.

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[InfiniteMugen]

Do you really like chikara that much? I might have to finish it, I watched the first ep and fell asleep, not cause of the show, it's usually late as f ck when I watch it

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Do you really like chikara that much? I might have to finish it, I watched the first ep and fell asleep, not cause of the show, it's usually late as f ck when I watch it

I know it's not for everyone but you'd be hard-pushed to dislike it. I see it as a huge celebration of the series whilst trying to world-build and have some fantastic batsh*t action. Your fav likely kicks ass in it, because everybody gets their turn.

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It's not say, an arc amazing for character development or villain plot- it's just a bunch of fanservice cameo fun. If Deidara, Hidan, Kabuto or Lee/Guy are your thing, you'll sh*t bricks.

 

[Sauce]

I figured. Regardless, Chikara was entertaining and its a shame that get got switched so late.

 

[startup98]

Hiruzen solos.

 

[Marin]

The fox mode was a prototype version, too different and untamed to count as the same mode he awakens on Turtle Island. Considering it was also spurred out by Kabuto's tinkerings and Kyuubi clones, it's different enough to count as a prelude or set-up rather than a contradiction.

The problem is that Naruto's shenanigans on the island were his first attempt at controling the fox's power - prototype or not. (In fact, his Nine-Tails Chakra Mode could be considered a prototype for his KCM.)

The way he reacted to the suggestion and Kurama's unwillingness to cooperate indicates that it was indeed the first time they tried that.

 

[Cfighter]

What follow up arc are you refering to?

Oop, sorry I guess it wasn't an arc but rather just two randomly placed episodes in Shipuuden. There was "Road to Sakura" and "Prolouge to Road to Ninja" both are pretty self explanatory... could have sworn they were their own arc, but regardless it was bizarre enough seeing these in the anime to begin with.