Kishi ruined the manga

[sindi1997]

Kishi created the manga, its his manga and it will be done the way he wants it whenever you like it or not

 

[Thane]

I don't think it sucks. However, I dislike the war arc intensely, and loathe the current power levels/differences.

As for dead characters - many of the supporting characters (and villains) have had honorable deaths that were handled extremely well. Even if I liked Jiraiya and Asuma, their deaths brought drama to the series, and that's a good thing.

Although I admit, the villains now are pretty lame. We have Sasuke with 0 depth, Madara who can apparently solo five of the strongest shinobi in the world with ease and Tobi who is insecure about his appearance.

 

[Lucidus]

I don't think it sucks. However, I dislike the war arc intensely, and loathe the current power levels/differences.

As for dead characters - many of the supporting characters (and villains) have had honorable deaths that were handled extremely well. Even if I liked Jiraiya and Asuma, their deaths brought drama to the series, and that's a good thing.

Although I admit, the villains now are pretty lame. We have Sasuke with 0 depth, Madara who can apparently solo five of the strongest shinobi in the world with ease and Tobi who is insecure about his appearance.

LOL orochimaru for best villain award xD

 

[Blunt]

People saying "if you don't like it don't watch it" please shut up, I can also send that back to you. Don't like this thread, don't waste your time posting.

Forums are for discussion, if you can't handle that you're at the wrong place.

Also whoever thinks this series will end with a draw between Naruto and Sasuke... please stop being so naïve. Look at what happened between Madara and Hashirama. History is repeating itself, is this not enough proof alone?

To bad Sasuke is going to beat Naruto.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

hmmm as that may be its not the point im trying to make... not sure about others but atleast it took skills and strategy to defeat there opponent there were ninja like aspects to part 1 naruto series which alot of people enjoyed and watched/read it for ... again part 2 is still good just i feel it was let down a bit by going bit over the top

I don't get why people are complaining it is not ninja like. Like i said before ninjas don't have powerful demons inside them that have the power to destroy the world.

Ever since the bijuu were introduced all these massive power levels were bound to appear. Also you guys saying that there is no strategy in part 2. Look at the pein arc, kage arc, the flashback of minato, deidara vs sasuke, rescue gaara arc.

You guys need to go back and reread every part 2 arc.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't think it sucks. However, I dislike the war arc intensely, and loathe the current power levels/differences.

As for dead characters - many of the supporting characters (and villains) have had honorable deaths that were handled extremely well. Even if I liked Jiraiya and Asuma, their deaths brought drama to the series, and that's a good thing.

Although I admit, the villains now are pretty lame. We have Sasuke with 0 depth, Madara who can apparently solo five of the strongest shinobi in the world with ease and Tobi who is insecure about his appearance.

sasuke has depth, quite possibly the most of the series

if the villain if op, it just brings excitement to the story. if the villain can be beat easily, it just wont be fun

tobi is give the series the suspense it needs.

these things together equal epic

 

[Armathyx]

Also you guys saying that there is no strategy in part 2. Look at the pein arc, kage arc, the flashback of minato, deidara vs sasuke, rescue gaara arc.

Pain arc : Naruto VS Pain mass DBZ bashing until Kishi got bored and killed Pain with a simple rasengan.

Kage arc : I will admit Sasuke vs Danzo was an impressive fight, but the other fights were just ninjutsu bashing

Minato : OP space-time jutsu, then backstabs to kill. That's it.

Deidara vs Sasuke : Again good fight but mostly due to Sasuke.

Save Gaara arc : again, Sasori dying was a plot kill, & the battles with Deidara were just boring to watch, 10 episodes of kakashi charging up mangekyu sharingan...

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Pain arc : Naruto VS Pain mass DBZ bashing until Kishi got bored and killed Pain with a simple rasengan.

Kage arc : I will admit Sasuke vs Danzo was an impressive fight, but the other fights were just ninjutsu bashing

Minato : OP space-time jutsu, then backstabs to kill. That's it.

Deidara vs Sasuke : Again good fight but mostly due to Sasuke.

Save Gaara arc : again, Sasori dying was a plot kill, & the battles with Deidara were just boring to watch, 10 episodes of kakashi charging up mangekyu sharingan...

Reread those arcs.
Minato had to time himself and figure out how to hit Tobi without phasing through him.

Naruto was using strategy that whole time. He knew his sage mode chakra would run out so he tricked pein sometimes.

I don't see how the sasori fight was a DBZ battles considering that sakura and chiyo were losing and that had to think of a way to defeat the third kazekage. Deidara was trying to get rid of Kakashi so that he could have naruto to himself.

 

[Hawker Fury]

At the ending of a story it's very difficult to appease all the fans of that story; there is no wrong side or right side to this discussion it’s up to the individual to decide.

To those who post "don't like don't watch" I can only say you are being very rude and intolerant; you see we live in something called a democracy (at least most of us do) and in a democracy there is normally something called freedom of speech (which also applies to writing I believe)

There is no need for such a nasty stance on the matter; simply say you disagree and then explain why if you want to. Such a behavior is something I would expect from the followers of a dogma such as militant atheism and fundamental desert dogma but not from fans of Naruto.

My personal opinion is that Naruto's story has been a bit shaky since Itachi died, not because he died but because of what happened after his death. The story was still great after that point and it still is but the shinobi war has been rather disappointing to me.

I think Naruto part 2 should be separated into two parts so we can talk about the more controversial events without including the good things which have been evident in part 2.


I do have problems with the story and how it was told but I realize that the story is not about making me happy so I accept it. I do not like the mass revival of just about every one who ever died in Naruto, I do not like what has been done with Kabuto, I do not like the lack of character development of most of the characters in a story which is mainly a character story, I do not like Sasuke's sudden change in personality (which seems like its been saved in the recent episodes so this may no be too much of a problem now) I do not like the quick rise of Naruto's power, I do not like the recent battles, I do not like the new Itachi, I do not like the war etc……. {{Personal note: shut up you are ranting}}

However in my experience most stories do not have an ending that satisfies all of the audience, the only Manga/anime that did manage to end the story well for me was full metal alchemist brotherhood but I do know vof people who didn't like it..

I don't think Naruto's ending will be obvious; so far the Manga has done a good job of not doing what was expected for example; Until recent episodes most believed Tobi was Madara (excluding the Obito conspiracy theorists and if I may give myself the credit myself who has claimed for a long time that Tobi is Tobi)

Hopefully the ending of Naruto will be a surprise on the same scale, and who knows maybe Tobi is actually Madara some how; we won't know for sure until his new mask fashion is ripped off (if it is)

I personally get the impression that Tobi has a personality disorder because the shifts from funny Tobi to business Tobi are very extreme.

On another note how does some one end something like Naruto other then an epic show down? I mean this story has been going for as long as some of us have been literate. If the story ended after a battle like one of the previous battle styles the series once had the story would feel incomplete; the ending needs to be epic but I would agree that there are problems with the way this is being accomplished.

At least Naruto hasn't reached the level of error as is apparent in the Star Wars prequels.

Please people do not go down to the level of insulting each others intelligence because he doesn’t agree with you. This thread is starting to show the symptoms of that disease.

 

[Thane]

sasuke has depth, quite possibly the most of the series

if the villain if op, it just brings excitement to the story. if the villain can be beat easily, it just wont be fun

tobi is give the series the suspense it needs.

these things together equal epic

Sasuke has absolutely no depth at all, no matter how you choose to intepret it. He is nothing more than Tobi's own psycho lap dog.

No. An OP villain does not bring excitment. A good villain does, like Haku and Zabuza. And while Tobi is mysterious and all, I personally do not like him being the catalyst of so many events. But that might just be me.

 

[WillToWin]

Sasuke has absolutely no depth at all, no matter how you choose to intepret it. He is nothing more than Tobi's own psycho lap dog.

No. An OP villain does not bring excitment. A good villain does, like Haku and Zabuza. And while Tobi is mysterious and all, I personally do not like him being the catalyst of so many events. But that might just be me.

Tobi sucks as a villain

 

[Powermill]

Ya I'm kinda losing interest, my fav character had died (kisame) and I don't even watch the show anymore. As long as sasuke dies in the end I'll be happy.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Sasuke has absolutely no depth at all, no matter how you choose to intepret it. He is nothing more than Tobi's own psycho lap dog.

No. An OP villain does not bring excitment. A good villain does, like Haku and Zabuza. And while Tobi is mysterious and all, I personally do not like him being the catalyst of so many events. But that might just be me.

But Zabuza would not be who is now if it was not for Tobi.
Tobi manapulated the Fourth Muzikage. Tobi was the true Muzikage, who was creating the rules which created the monster zabuza.

 

[Hawker Fury]

hmm Tobi is written as my fave on my profile... I will have to change it now

I liked him when he was Tobi but now he is no fun any more, the only intrest i have in him is who he is because right now he is no body! XD

 

[Thane]

Tobi sucks as a villain

I don't really like him either. Sure, I want to know who he is...but that's about it.

But Zabuza would not be who is now if it was not for Tobi.
Tobi manapulated the Fourth Muzikage. Tobi was the true Muzikage, who was creating the rules which created the monster zabuza.

1 - While that is true, I doubt Kishimoto had even come up with Tobi at that point

2 - That doesn't change the fact that Zabuza and Haku were good villains. Not overpowered, just darn strong and with some motives.

3 - Tobi manipulating the fourth Mizukage is one of the things I don't like about him. He is seemingly behind everything and it bothers me. The fact that he was behind the Nine-tailed Fox attack as well was just ridiculous.

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

I don't really like him either. Sure, I want to know who he is...but that's about it.



1 - While that is true, I doubt Kishimoto had even come up with Tobi at that point

2 - That doesn't change the fact that Zabuza and Haku were good villains. Not overpowered, just darn strong and with some motives.

3 - Tobi manipulating the fourth Mizukage is one of the things I don't like about him. He is seemingly behind everything and it bothers me. The fact that he was behind the Nine-tailed Fox attack as well was just ridiculous.

xd, a great villian is like Tobi. A great uses people to achieve his goals but still has the power to fight for himself. Also Talk No Jutsu doesn't work on Tobi.

 

[moody2times]

Am I the only one who, by now, only reads the manga because it would be too bad to quit after going through all of it?

And for this precise reason : all the great characters have died. Most of the shinobi left alive for the war are boring, except for a few.

I mean ok, Madara + Tobi, Naruto, Kabuto and the Kages, they may have cool jutsu. But what do they fight for, besides "peace" and "world domination"?

Jiraya, Itachi, Nagato, Konan, the Akatsuki, Orochimaru, Hiruzen, and who else.. most of which died because the plot required them to. They had their individual beliefs and were much less generic than the remaining ones.

We all know that Madara and Tobi will be done by a main-character no jutsu even though they're completely overpowered by now. And we also all know the plot between Naruto and Sasuke will end exactly like Goku and Vegeta in Dragonball Z. This isn't Sasuke Shippuden.

I am guessing you're the only one who thinks this way. Nice manga any time of day. xd

 

[ChrisWolf]

Awwwww poor you naruto sucks now. STFU if you dont like it dont read it, who cares if you liked it before, if its that bad dont read it.

:rofl:

 

[Rexoniel]

The series revolving around the destined grudge match of the Uchiha and Senjus ruined it for me. I went many years saying "meh" to Naruto because it looked like a wannabe DBZ except the characters were teenagers in jumpsuits despite the fact they're suppose to be ninjas. What caught my interest though, is seeing how bad ass Neji and Tsunade were. Neji's fighting style appeals to me for the way he can mess you up with the slightest touch and how intimidating he looks while byakugan his activated. I was impressed with Tsunade being so strong for a woman and kicking Orochimaru all over the place. So I checked it out to see what the series was like, and the one thing I appreciated it over DBZ was how the other characters got some developement. The peak in the entire series for me is the Sasuke retrieval arc.

But now its all about Uchiha hype left and right, Naruto being the reincarnation of some all powerful being who wasn't even mentioned in part one and leaving the rest of the cast in the dust just like in DBZ. Though I loved DBZ for its fight scenes, the one thing I hated was everyone being left behind and beaten up for Goku to take all the glory. If not for wanting to see Tobi's true identity and wanting to know how it'll all end, I'd probably quit reading too. It's clear my favorites (Hinata and Neji) aren't going to get any more chances to shine at this point anyway.

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

Am I the only one who, by now, only reads the manga because it would be too bad to quit after going through all of it?

And for this precise reason : all the great characters have died. Most of the shinobi left alive for the war are boring, except for a few.

I mean ok, Madara + Tobi, Naruto, Kabuto and the Kages, they may have cool jutsu. But what do they fight for, besides "peace" and "world domination"?

Jiraya, Itachi, Nagato, Konan, the Akatsuki, Orochimaru, Hiruzen, and who else.. most of which died because the plot required them to. They had their individual beliefs and were much less generic than the remaining ones.

We all know that Madara and Tobi will be done by a main-character no jutsu even though they're completely overpowered by now. And we also all know the plot between Naruto and Sasuke will end exactly like Goku and Vegeta in Dragonball Z. This isn't Sasuke Shippuden.

Thats how every story ends dumbass :nexus:

How stupid would if be if Naruto died? Those characters u named off are called Supporting Characters. They help the plot get better, and they help the Main character get better. Nub :sy:

Go cry somewhere else :flaw: