Kishi made a plot-hole

[mxit]

it's a manga, not a comic.

LOL Comic, Manga, Grapihic novel.... its a comic.... I love naruto but not going to lose sleep about it

 

[Moonlitmidnightmagic]

I...didn't realize that... xd

 

[~Yubel~]

lol its a comic, read the news... more things out there to get upset about

This is Narutobase and the purpose is to talk about naruto so if you want to read the news then be my guest but don´t come here and make us take part in your boring hobby, i rarely read the news and it´s not like there is anything interesting about it, it never says anything positive that´s happening in the world.

 

[zombiejesus]

Let me correct you, NO he can´t ****in do whatever he wants!
WE are the viewers and it is through US that HE earns his godamn money!
If he made a bunch of rules and suddently break them on his own then the manga would lose popularity and the way i see it, he loses his paycheck.

The reason i´m watching/reading even though i don´t like the stuff that´s happening is cuz i´ve been watching/reading for a very long time and i hate to see it go down like this.

calm down and yes he can do what he wants its his universe you just visit it from time to time fella

 

[jayhayallday]

i would like to see other characters play bigger roles....but as far as the rest of it....you mad bro???

 

[TheBattousai]

Shadow clones can do all the techniques of the original except shadow clone jutsu cuz that´s what they are.
A clone making a clone doesn´t sit right with me, especially since kishi never got into it in the past so i say it´s a plot-hole.

Has there been any dialog stating that a clone can't make another clone? If not, i'm not seeing any inconsistency to the physical laws of the Naruto-verse or storyline. Simply saying, it hasn't been done before, should not be good enough logic to call it a plot hole.

Maybe it is just simply a very difficult (near impossible) thing for a clone to balance the chakra correctly to create another clone. I think it's safe to argue that Naruto has probably used more clones than any other character (basically his only form of attack pre-rasengan). As such, he should be able to use them better than anybody else. He's been working on his chakra control as well (tbb training), so maybe that is why it hasn't been shown until now.

Simply put, he is growing as a shinobi, and able to do stuff now that he was unable to do previously. He can also do a couple things that nobody else has been able to do before. Because of this I wouldn't consider his shadow clone creating another shadow clone a plot hole.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Let me correct you, NO he can´t ****in do whatever he wants!
WE are the viewers and it is through US that HE earns his godamn money!
If he made a bunch of rules and suddently break them on his own then the manga would lose popularity and the way i see it, he loses his paycheck.

The reason i´m watching/reading even though i don´t like the stuff that´s happening is cuz i´ve been watching/reading for a very long time and i hate to see it go down like this.

Except he's not making money off of those who read and watch the manga for free unless you're buying the games/product/cards. And a shadow clone can do anything the real Naruto can do because it's a clone meaning a copy. Naruto chakra is split among them and so does his concentration( we find out while he was only able to use a limited amount of shadow clones in sage so he can have clones absorb natural chakra). But as I remember it Naruto's clone did not make a shadow clone at all, he used his chakra arms to make his resangans while in chakra mode. It was the real Naruto who used shadow clone but couldn't sustain another clone so it disappeared but while in chakra mode Naruto have never used a shadow clone for a rasengan. And as for Naruto beating the 3rd hokage, Kishi is showing that Naruto is growing mentally and becoming more of a hero ninja. You saw what happened to Naruto when he fought pain without making a strategy but after Itachi spoke some wisdom then Naruto began using his brain in battles, like against Muu, Raikage. Oh and it was stated more than once that the next generation surpassed the pervious one with was shown when asuma died and shikamaru grew up and became a better/wiser ninja and Naruto after Jiraiya died.

 

[zombiejesus]

Except he's not making money off of those who read and watch the manga for free unless you're buying the games/product/cards. And a shadow clone can do anything the real Naruto can do because it's a clone meaning a copy. Naruto chakra is split among them and so does his concentration( we find out while he was only able to use a limited amount of shadow clones in sage so he can have clones absorb natural chakra). But as I remember it Naruto's clone did not make a shadow clone at all, he used his chakra arms to make his resangans while in chakra mode. It was the real Naruto who used shadow clone but couldn't sustain another clone so it disappeared but while in chakra mode Naruto have never used a shadow clone for a rasengan. And as for Naruto beating the 3rd hokage, Kishi is showing that Naruto is growing mentally and becoming more of a hero ninja. You saw what happened to Naruto when he fought pain without making a strategy but after Itachi spoke some wisdom then Naruto began using his brain in battles, like against Muu, Raikage. Oh and it was stated more than once that the next generation surpassed the pervious one with was shown when asuma died and shikamaru grew up and became a better/wiser ninja and Naruto after Jiraiya died.

its nice to see people make sense once and awhile good for you fella

 

[recknight]

Stop complaining, you're getting this manga for free, it's HIS manga and he can do whatever he wants, heck he can add a pokemon and make it kill everyone if he wants. You have been reading this manga and never had to pay a cent, if you don't like it, then STOP reading it.

you are super right ... lol .. complaining like kids for manga... i thought kishi want to close this book ....

 

[eyerinnegan]

pssst !!! don't let kishi know this thread.... I'am afraid that he will stop drawing manga, what can you do then ???

 

[sandyp]

Stop complaining, you're getting this manga for free, it's HIS manga and he can do whatever he wants, heck he can add a pokemon and make it kill everyone if he wants. You have been reading this manga and never had to pay a cent, if you don't like it, then STOP reading it.

heeellllll yyyyyyaaaaa well said man

 

[Gaarafan1]

The shadow clone has a conscience it is just Naruto's chakra split in half.

 

[thechosen1]

^^this^^, but lol at shadow clone making another shadow clone

shadowcloneception

 

[AI2AM]

Let me correct you, NO he can´t ****in do whatever he wants!
WE are the viewers and it is through US that HE earns his godamn money!
If he made a bunch of rules and suddently break them on his own then the manga would lose popularity and the way i see it, he loses his paycheck.

The reason i´m watching/reading even though i don´t like the stuff that´s happening is cuz i´ve been watching/reading for a very long time and i hate to see it go down like this.

im pretty sure he could live just fine even if he didnt make another cent. hes rich as hell now hes got so many games based off naruto hes got movies and all that shit. he doesnt need anything else so actually whether we all stopped reading it or not he would still be rich.

 

[Sasuke15]

man almost everyone one of u here is a dumbass he has the 9 tailed fox in him meaning his clones are powerful as a normal naruto (if naruto had no demon inside him) which naruto could make 1000 clones when he was just 12 so im pretty sure his clones can make clones i mean hell clones have made clones before that way the real one could escape dumbass

 

[dadada]

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not with bee, not a clone
seems no one reed this

 

[NaruGoku]

ok, once and for all, CLONES CAN MAKE CLONES!! dude, all they are doing is using a jutsu. U think Clones can't make Rasengans without the original naruto around? all they're doing is using Naruto's jutsu, which makes sense, you know, since they ARE Naruto! To say a clone making another clone doesn't make sense... um, wow.

 

[~Yubel~]

ok, once and for all, CLONES CAN MAKE CLONES!! dude, all they are doing is using a jutsu. U think Clones can't make Rasengans without the original naruto around? all they're doing is using Naruto's jutsu, which makes sense, you know, since they ARE Naruto! To say a clone making another clone doesn't make sense... um, wow.

This is the last time i´m gonna repeat myself, why didn´t kishi go into it then?
Why didn´t he show us or give us sometype of evidence that it is possible that narutos clones can make clones.
The way the whole thing was presented makes me think that kishi made a plo-hole more than i think the way u do.

 

[dadada]

just saying this argument i futile sins it didn´t happen this time

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

The naruto fighting raikage was a clone, he went sage-mode and the clone made a clone to form the rasengan...........WTF?!

This is what i hate about this arc, everything is rushed and if he would´ve taken his time then this wouldn´t have happened, he now want us to believe that naruto was just a clone all along then how did he make another clone?

A war in which no one dies from the good side, a war that could be use to bond people romantically, a war that is negleting the characters that rarely get screen-time, a war in which a blonde 16 year old kid takes on shinobi legends and beats them in such a silly way like beating the 3rd raiKAGE by making him penetrate himself.

I don´t like this war and i don´t like the way it has been going, i also don´t want this 6th coffin appearing and suddently kill all the good guys like naruto has been doing to the other side.

Kishi wasted plenty of opportunities with this war and the only thing i can do from this point is hope that it gets better.

I dont think he was a clone when he fought Raikage. He just left a clone with OOnoki. What was fighting was a clone but what came back with Oonoki was a clone.