Kishi is a tree hugger

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Honestly, the last chapter really bummed me out. i thought it was really bad. the whole "uchiha's love too much" was terrible plot wise. I mean seriously, obito and madara are doing what they do because they love too much? love too much??

if you look back at the series story, everything always ends with the happiest (no matter how absurd) ending. Its like damn ninja care bears.

1. Everyone killed by Pain got revived
2. Villans "love too much"
3. Most characters got revived for the war and kept their personalities so they can provide closure.
4. itachi's actions were ultimately for good intentions. he even joined akatsuki to be a spy.
5. How many main characters have died in this war, ONE? Neji?

I really wish this story was more grown up and wasn't so afraid to tackle the bad stuff. take shows like the walking dead for example. they kill of major characters almost every episode and its still one of the most successful tv shows right now.
 

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gotta say i'm with you on this.i didnlt even wanna mke a threat about how retarded the whole love to much crap is,but this is narutobase here people don't care.kishi can bring the actual care bears in this show and you'll still have dr proof making threads on how it makes sense for them to be here.its sad realy
 

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gotta say i'm with you on this.i didnlt even wanna mke a threat about how retarded the whole love to much crap is,but this is narutobase here people don't care.kishi can bring the actual care bears in this show and you'll still have dr proof making threads on how it makes sense for them to be here.its sad realy
Another idiot.
 

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Do you know how many bad things happen in the world because someone lost a loved one?

Don't you think the stronger the love for a person, the more devistated the person would be??

So now do you see why the strongest love (uchiha) turns to the greatest hate???

If you see this as a reason to say Kishi is a tree hugger, you clearly have a bad understanding of what love and the loss of loved ones can do to people, and even worse what the people who lose loved one(s) are capable of.... (of course unless they are like itachi and have an have a kage level understanding)
 

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Kishi is writing a deep story full of interesting twists. When you dislike it so much, why do you bother reading it?
 

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Isn't this a forum where we can voice our opinions on the show, be it positive thoughts or maybe what we think could be improved? This is why I joined NB in the first place. People need to stop acting like all we're allowed to say about Kishi and his manga are positive things.

I'm not saying that people should go all out bashing his work (that IS pointless on a Naruto forum), but what's wrong with just saying what you find slightly bad about the story? After all, every story has its pros and cons. There are times when those who say "stop complaining!" or "stop reading the manga then!" can actually be worse than those who do the complaining in the first place.
 

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I can understand your point but this can´t really be helped. Since the beginning, almost everything has spinned around the theme of love.

It does offer some great twists, in my opinion. But I still respect your idea.
 

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Honestly, the last chapter really bummed me out. i thought it was really bad. the whole "uchiha's love too much" was terrible plot wise. I mean seriously, obito and madara are doing what they do because they love too much? love too much??

if you look back at the series story, everything always ends with the happiest (no matter how absurd) ending. Its like damn ninja care bears.

As you point out it has always been this way and is not going to change. If you want less lovey-dovey stuff and more grit and hardcore violence then Naruto is not the manga for you.

1. Everyone killed by Pain got revived
2. Villans "love too much"
3. Most characters got revived for the war and kept their personalities so they can provide closure.
4. itachi's actions were ultimately for good intentions. he even joined akatsuki to be a spy.
5. How many main characters have died in this war, ONE? Neji?

I really wish this story was more grown up and wasn't so afraid to tackle the bad stuff. take shows like the walking dead for example. they kill of major characters almost every episode and its still one of the most successful tv shows right now.
So you think a shounen manga (pg-13) should resemble an R-rated adult tv show?
 

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Isn't this a forum where we can voice our opinions on the show, be it positive thoughts or maybe what we think could be improved? This is why I joined NB in the first place. People need to stop acting like all we're allowed to say about Kishi and his manga are positive things.

I'm not saying that people should go all out bashing his work (that IS pointless on a Naruto forum), but what's wrong with just saying what you find slightly bad about the story? After all, every story has its pros and cons. There are times when those who say "stop complaining!" or "stop reading the manga then!" can actually be worse than those who do the complaining in the first place.
Everyone has a right to voice their opinion. But there is a difference between constructive criticism and criticism that has little value. The op is essentially complaining about an aspect of the manga that has existed since chapter 1. The op might as well complain about Naruto's blonde hair. Where is the value in that?
 

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I am sorry, but most of the people who posted here are fanboys. I am not just randomly hating on Kishi. Im providing a criticism that I feel is a valid one. This story revolves around a world about ninjas. death, hardships, and sacrifice are things that inevitably come with it. I am simply stating that it would be nice if the story was more realistic and played more to the hardships of being a ninja, rather than everything working out fine.

And yes, love is a driving factor in life, but it is no where near the only one. People are also driven by envy, greed, jealousy, and sometimes even pure malice. Frankly, I feel like Kishi is doing to ninjas what Twilight did to vampires and werewolves.
 
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