Kishi Has Done Well To Balance Naruto and Sasuke.

[Ghostofthewind]

What the fck is wrong with you?! I just showed you manga pages that prove he does have it!




@Bold is the same response for your edit.

None of those prove Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. This one does:

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And none of those prove that Sasuke has used Tsukuyomi. If they did (which they don't) then Sasuke's Tsukuyomi<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Itachi's Tsukuyomi

 

[Seraphiel]

None of those prove Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. This one does:

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And none of those prove that Sasuke has used Tsukuyomi. If they did (which they don't) then Sasuke's Tsukuyomi<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Itachi's Tsukuyomi

Yeah... because Tobi was there when he transferred "all" of his techniques. Just stfu. You're just an idiot trying to correct his mistakes.

 

[Scooby Doo]

None of those prove Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. This one does:

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And none of those prove that Sasuke has used Tsukuyomi. If they did (which they don't) then Sasuke's Tsukuyomi<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Itachi's Tsukuyomi

This guy is right, what he linked now really has more proof than what you have linked. But i think that transferring all eye techniques can mean that he has awakened the mangekyou in both eyes, but it doesnt mean that Sasuke's mangekyou's abilities are the same as Itachi's Note that when Sasuke met edo itachi, Itachi was surprised that Sasuke has susanoo, why is that?

I don't write the manga. Ask Kishimoto. U_U

And Sasuke does have Tsukuyomi.

Bad reasoning.
Sasuke used normal genjutsu against B, fodders, C. The user decides what the genjutsu should be like, but Sasuke has never shown he could manipulate space and time inside his genjutsu.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

Yeah... because Tobi was there when he transferred "all" of his techniques. Just stfu. You're just an idiot trying to correct his mistakes.

It isn't my fault the manga says Sasuke's Tsukuyomi sucks compared to Itachi's. It isn't my fault that the manga never specifically says Sasuke used Tsukuyomi.

You mad Bro? I don't take offense when people call me an idiot because I know they don't know what it means. I won't report you.

 

[Seraphiel]

This guy is right, what he linked now really has more proof than what you have linked. But i think that transferring all eye techniques can mean that he has awakened the mangekyou in both eyes, but it doesnt mean that Sasuke's mangekyou's abilities are the same as Itachi's Note that when Sasuke met edo itachi, Itachi was surprised that Sasuke has susanoo, why is that?



Bad reasoning.

It isn't my fault the manga says Sasuke's Tsukuyomi sucks compared to Itachi's. It isn't my fault that the manga never specifically says Sasuke used Tsukuyomi.

You mad Bro?

Whatever. Tobi knows nothing. I had valid points.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Whatever. Tobi knows nothing. I had valid points.

You have good points, but those points can be refuted. Sasuke used normal genjutsu on B,C, fodders. The user decides what the genjutsu will be like, so it can be similar to Itachi's but Sasuke has never shown that he could manipulate space and time inside his genjutsu.
Also note that when Sasuke met edo itachi, Itachi was surprised that Sasuke has susanoo, why is that if Itachi transferred all of his eyetechniques?

 

[Ghostofthewind]

Whatever. Tobi knows nothing. I had valid points.

Yes, you have very good evidence and you are probably correct. However, evidence isn't proof.

 

[Pavoneo]

That manga page nowhere says its tsukoyomi, its a normal genjutsu.

I don't know if it's that specific manga page but this is from narutopedia.

"Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye, though his illusion is considered inferior to Itachi's Tsukuyomi since it does not alter the opponent's perception of time indicating he has yet to master it. "

 

[Seraphiel]

You have good points, but those points can be refuted. Sasuke used normal genjutsu on B,C, fodders. The user decides what the genjutsu will be like, so it can be similar to Itachi's but Sasuke has never shown that he could manipulate space and time inside his genjutsu.
Also note that when Sasuke met edo itachi, Itachi was surprised that Sasuke has susanoo, why is that if Itachi transferred all of his eyetechniques?

When Kishimoto draws Tsukuyomi, he gives it a white on black art(very solid colors). That should be more than enough poof.

Yes, you have very good evidence and you are probably correct. However, evidence isn't proof.

Proof: Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

Evidence: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

 

[Scooby Doo]

I don't know if it's that specific manga page but this is from narutopedia.

"Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye, though his illusion is considered inferior to Itachi's Tsukuyomi since it does not alter the opponent's perception of time indicating he has yet to master it. "

Narutopedia < manga :

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And it says susanoo only needs control over the double mangekyou, it doesnt say it has to be tsukoyomi and amaterasu.

When Kishimoto draws Tsukuyomi, he gives it a white on black art(very solid colors). That should be more than enough poof.


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Sorry but all the manga is drawn in black and white so I dont understand what you mean. Link please. (Dont call me stupid I just dont see it)

 

[Seraphiel]

Sorry but all the manga is drawn in black and white so I dont understand what you mean. Link please. (Dont call me stupid I just dont see it)

Top is regular manga art, bottom is Tsukuyomi art.

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[Scooby Doo]

Top is regular manga art, bottom is Tsukuyomi art.

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Ok I see what you meant, and now link wher sasuke uses the same tsukoyomi pls.

 

[Pavoneo]

Narutopedia < manga :

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And it says susanoo only needs control over the double mangekyou, it doesnt say it has to be tsukoyomi and amaterasu.



Sorry but all the manga is drawn in black and white so I dont understand what you mean. Link please. (Dont call me stupid I just dont see it)

To get control over the double mangekyo I'm pretty sure you need to be able to use Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi, DOUBLE Mangekyo, 2 powers. It somewhat makes sense. >.> Of course, again it's stated in Narutopedia but apparently that's not a valid source for you.

 

[Seraphiel]

Ok I see what you meant, and now link wher sasuke uses the same tsukoyomi pls.

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[Ghostofthewind]

When Kishimoto draws Tsukuyomi, he gives it a white on black art(very solid colors). That should be more than enough poof.



Proof: Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

Evidence: The available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

proof establishes, evidence suggests. You've heard cases being over-turned despite strong evidence. Have you ever heard of a case being over-turned despite strong proof?

 

[Scooby Doo]

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But here when Sasuke uses genjutsu on Danzo its not like that.

To get control over the double mangekyo I'm pretty sure you need to be able to use Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi, DOUBLE Mangekyo, 2 powers. It somewhat makes sense. >.> Of course, again it's stated in Narutopedia but apparently that's not a valid source for you.

It used to be, but I was convinced for example that I used to think that Hiruzen couldnt master all 5 elements, and on narutopedia only fire and earth are on his profile, but it was said in the manga that he did, so he had all 5 elements though its not shown on Narutopedia. Besides, some say that izanagi needs senju dna but narutopedia say it doesnt, and here i think narutopedia is right but not because its a valid source just because I think the same about it.

 

[Pavoneo]

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As I've quoted earlier from Narutopedia. "Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye"

Notice how after that happened, Sasuke's holding his right eye.

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But here when Sasuke uses genjutsu on Danzo its not like that.

Notice in the next page he uses Amaterasu.

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Note how Itachi uses it in his right eye in this scene. Yet (More quoting from Narutopedia ;D)

"Due to the complexity of the illusion and the quickness with which it is executed, an enormous amount of chakra is necessary and an added amount of stress is placed on the left eye, leaving Itachi's vision more blurred."

Itachi uses Tsukiyomi in his left eye.

 

[Seraphiel]

proof establishes, evidence suggests. You've heard cases being over-turned despite strong evidence. Have you ever heard of a case being over-turned despite strong proof?

U_U Seriously...?

As I've quoted earlier from Narutopedia. "Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye"

Notice how after that happened, Sasuke's holding his right eye.

They are either stupid or trying to make me look stupid, but they are making themselves look stupid by doing that.

 

[saw2097]

Naruto is not at his peak yet. If you look back you will see that there is a jutsu that his father was working on that he never completed. He left it for Naruto to complete. We also haven't seen Naruto face the 10 tails. I doubt that Naruto will be like this when he fights Sasuke. I suspect he well awaken some power he had the whole time or something. Sasuke will also probably gain more power.

 

[Scooby Doo]

As I've quoted earlier from Narutopedia. "Sasuke can also perform Tsukuyomi with his right eye"

Notice how after that happened, Sasuke's holding his right eye.

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Notice in the next page he uses Amaterasu.

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Note how Itachi uses it in his right eye in this scene. Yet (More quoting from Narutopedia ;D)

"Due to the complexity of the illusion and the quickness with which it is executed, an enormous amount of chakra is necessary and an added amount of stress is placed on the left eye, leaving Itachi's vision more blurred."

Itachi uses Tsukiyomi in his left eye.

1) Good proof, But still, casting a genjutsu with his sharingan in mangekyou state doesnt mean its tsukoyomi.
2)And what's with Itachi using amaterasu?

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Tobi says here that sasuke used a normal genjutsu