kishi fails at developing female characters

The Alchemist

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 8, 2012
Messages
1,773
Reaction score
143
kishi doesnt give any female characters the proper developments

mei - abilities are OP but kishi makes it look way weaker when its actually powerful jutsu

tsunade - she just recent got her development against madara but she still useless/weak (compared to male characters)

sakura- her last development was sasori....nearly 350 chapters since her last development.....beyond horrible job done by kishimoto

hinata - she trained with neji but we still dont know what she is capable of, she got owned in 2 seconds by pain...once again bad development

temari - gets small developments but she just as useless as k11 girls

anko - she disappears and then pop up every 100 chapters when kabuto/oro appears, shes useless too

konan- she had no development, she hurt obito but only because she had prep time to set up her 600 billion paper bombs, shes just nagato's useless teammate...she adds nothing to the story just the obito fight

kurenai- she got pregnant and disappeared ever since (its obvious why but im just sayin)

ino - she has her mind transfer jutsu but its useless without her teammates helping her, once again another useless female character

ten ten - absolutely no development at all, even in part 1, she was just neji's hype-man lol

Their powers will be unveiled. In the mean time don't get your nickers in a twist it's just a manga after all.
 

Drakengard

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
4,371
Reaction score
357
I agree to an extent - Kishimoto admit to the notion that he has a hard time giving female characters good roles. Now this tells me that Kishimoto is using the culture around him as a reference point (hey, he does seem to put a lot of tradition into his work.. so why not?). To be fair, there are some neglected male characters too so perhaps its a coincidence.

Love relationships in particular seem to be a bit neglected. If the SasukexSakura relationship wasn't so one sided, or if Sasuke had shown more reason for Sakura's affection in Part 1, far less people would hate on her. Just change/improve her attempt to murder Sasuke... and done! I believe a load of anti-Sakura members wouldn't despise her so much if this had occured. There's also ObitoxRin to think about. Even though I'm all for the idea of Obito making a new world free of negative aspects, more sympathy between him and Rin wouldn't hurt either.
 

Arian

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 20, 2011
Messages
5,817
Reaction score
756
thats simply how real life is... male > female.. simple as that -.-
kishi doesnt give any female characters the proper developments

mei - abilities are OP but kishi makes it look way weaker when its actually powerful jutsu

tsunade - she just recent got her development against madara but she still useless/weak (compared to male characters)

sakura- her last development was sasori....nearly 350 chapters since her last development.....beyond horrible job done by kishimoto

hinata - she trained with neji but we still dont know what she is capable of, she got owned in 2 seconds by pain...once again bad development

temari - gets small developments but she just as useless as k11 girls

anko - she disappears and then pop up every 100 chapters when kabuto/oro appears, shes useless too

konan- she had no development, she hurt obito but only because she had prep time to set up her 600 billion paper bombs, shes just nagato's useless teammate...she adds nothing to the story just the obito fight

kurenai- she got pregnant and disappeared ever since (its obvious why but im just sayin)

ino - she has her mind transfer jutsu but its useless without her teammates helping her, once again another useless female character

ten ten - absolutely no development at all, even in part 1, she was just neji's hype-man lol
 

MrsJDepp

Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2012
Messages
464
Reaction score
109
I know what you mean. It's true that the the femal characters are not that useful. But it's simply because Naruto is a Shōnen manga It's made by a man for "men". The Boys want to see powerful femal characters but not as powerful as the male characters. Why do you think that the most guys dislike Sakura? Because she's the main femal character who always hits the main male character ..it's just a fact. Why do the most boys love Hinata? Because she's the shy little girl that loves Naruto and protects him no matter what. She represents the perfect girl. The guys think in Narutos shoes they somehow think they're Naruto and that's why they want the best for Naruto or more precisely for "themselves".
 

Huang

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 10, 2012
Messages
1,078
Reaction score
100
What the f*ck?

No seriously, what the f*ck?

How does that disprove ANYTHING?! What the f*ck?! Those are ALL male characters who are FAR stronger than the ones you've just listed! Are you intentionally being this stupid just to get out from the debate?

That's my line,.. but basicly what I'm saying the last hundred times, is that there are enough strong females amongst the strongest, and just because there are more males who are stronger, does NOT automaticly imply that they are considered the weaker *** by the author.
You're just looking to find a form of inequality, of which there is no implication that there is, therefore disproving inequality between sexes.
How can you not get that?

FYI;
I'd change my mind in a second, if it wasn't for the complete lack of inequality, but it doesn't, so I stick to my arguments. That's how a discussion works. No need to use bad language, insults mostly mean you're too stubborn to take part in a discussion, and therefore not worth my time.
 
Last edited:

Uchiha Legacy

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Sep 13, 2012
Messages
1,667
Reaction score
201
Kishi also failed at developing the main character Naruto, what's your point?
 

Champ

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Dec 18, 2011
Messages
11,143
Reaction score
661
Women should be in the kitchen, not fightin
 

killerman82

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
797
Reaction score
47
Agreed, kishi isn't good at developing girl characters.
 

Strata Uchiha

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 29, 2011
Messages
7,753
Reaction score
1,089
Well the manga is almost over so...it's too late for most of the females in this manga.

Still though, I think Mei and Temari are golden! They don't have self-esteem issues and they are powerful.
 

DeathandHealing

Banned
Regular
Joined
Jun 27, 2012
Messages
615
Reaction score
135
Your obviously a child and an idiot.

You talk about female development yet your icon is a half naked chick.

Lastly have you seen Hinata in the show? I'm sure you missed the fact she was in allot of the show since the first episodes. And you think strength is character development? Those are 2 different things. I clearly see the characters for who they are.

Hinata was the one who always admired naruto from the sidelines. She is shy and trys her best to be like Naruto.

Sakura is the Character Naruto always chased after. She had no respect for him and really didn't care.

Tsunade has had more flashbacks than Oro and is one of the strongest of the Kage currently.

The show is called NARUTO... Who again? NARUTO. It's about HIM.
 

-Sky-

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Nov 13, 2011
Messages
5,335
Reaction score
545
I sort of agree. :|
 

Strata Uchiha

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 29, 2011
Messages
7,753
Reaction score
1,089
The series lacks a female Uchiha with strong Sharingan eyes.

Don't everyone say Sasuke at once. >_> He's not girly, otay okay?
 

ChocolateBear

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 15, 2011
Messages
1,010
Reaction score
83
Mei is easily top 30,

Tsunade is top 20.

Sakura.....well, you were right there.

Hinata lost in two seconds against PEIN. PEIN BLEW UP A VILLAGE. She's gotten much better.

Temari is a jonin leavel ninja. She may not be an s-rank ninja, but she's quite powerful.

Anko is weaker than Sakura since the beginning of shippuden. You are right there.

Konan is top 30. She's very powerful.

Kurenai is a jonin level ninja. If she fought her baby would've died.

Ino saved the whole alliance by using her mind transfer jutsu to momentarily stop Madara, Jubi, and Obito. She's gotten better.

Tenten is chunin level. She aint weak, she aint strong.

Really, all of you feminist are just butthurt than there isn't a girl in top 10. If they're in top thirty, they're still very powerful you know.
Lies
 

zesto

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
2,349
Reaction score
130
I STOP READING WHEN I SAW TSUNADE WEAKER THAN MEN CHARACTERS...... IT WAS a PLEASURE ENJOYING YOUR FAILED THREAD. Thank you.
 

Huang

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 10, 2012
Messages
1,078
Reaction score
100
How can you not get, you numbskull, that I've already proven how woefully underdeveloped the females are in terms of combat? You're regurgitating the same bullshit you've been spouting at me time and time again, then you have the nerve to act all high-and-mighty, mister pseudo-intellectual? Have you seen the amount of men I've listed off? The highest rated woman is BARELY top 20 material, how the f*ck are you so blind as to not see that there IS a fundamental inequality here? Ask any sane person and they'll tell you the same thing.

Yeah, no, a discussion works in the way you actually REBUKE the other's point, numbskull. You have not done ANY of that, instead you've been repeating what you've said over and over and have not actually refuted ANY of my points. Then you have this sanctimonious attitude? Can't stand a little foul language? What are you, five? Get the f*ck over yourself.

Really, get over myself? Stop reading things that aren't there, grow up and learn how to take part in a propper discussion.
Stick to the subject instead of someone's grammer, or your bad attempt at projection.

You're like one of those people who would think Kishi is biased toward Sasuke when he gets more face-time, which is stupid.
Same as when you think there is an inequality between sexes, strenght isn't anything.

Making a point on the male characters is as silly as with female characters, that's why, that's what you don't get.
It's only reguritating, when you're unable to get the point after several times.

An inequality in strenght isn't a form being biased against women.
If the guys here on NB happen to be taller than the women, it's not a form inequality out of bias.

I may be a numbskull, but yours is too thick to get any information through.
 

Megan Terumi

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jun 29, 2012
Messages
791
Reaction score
121
I don't get why there's so much debate over something that's true
 
Joined
Aug 30, 2012
Messages
114
Reaction score
4
Completely agree. Especially tenten. Talk about a useless character. Oh tenten? I forgot about her. Just give her a cool ass sage tool to kind of use for like an episode or two...
 
Top