Kishi didn't return Hiruzen to his prime bc he would be stronger than madara and hash

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1. Edos get revived to the state of their death. Madara was an exception, stated by Kabuto
2. It's already been stated the 1st and 2nd weren't anywhere NEAR full power. Hiruzen basically fought their fodder copies while Orochimaru laughed at him and he died.
3. Hiruzen hasn't been doing sh*t at all, he didn't even make a clone :|

What do we know about Hashiramas death? How do you know he died young?

Stated by who? They where in full power with limitless chackra and got out classed and sealed away by a 69 year old Hiruzen.

I'm really starting to think most of you judge the out comes of these battles on appearance and "legend status"
 

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It's no a joke if you have something to prove then prove it.
 

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Yet he was the strongest in his village in his teen years?
 

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We are talking about the Hokage who was about to have a heart attack when Hashirama cracked the room?

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Deal with it, Prime could possibly beat Hashirama. It's been stated many times he is a God and was the strongest Hokage. The old man also beat 2 damn edos with massive handicaps, they had there personalites removed thats right, but that just made them into killing machines, Hiruzen can destroy Hashis wood and can counter bringer of drakness. They may infact of had been weaker versions but it never states how much more weak they were. Also his stats are almost perfect in the databook.
 

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What do we know about Hashiramas death? How do you know he died young?

Stated by who? They where in full power with limitless chackra and got out classed and sealed away by a 69 year old Hiruzen.

I'm really starting to think most of you judge the out comes of these battles on appearance and "legend status"

If we were going by legend status Hiruzen would be buddies with Rikudo while Hashirama ventures off into neverland
 

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So new we know who will defeat current Obito XD
 

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ya i agree hashi and tobirama have all that exp but hiruzen is a strategist niggas cray smart and technical
 
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Let me think Prime 3rd Hokage he is a joke when he fought the Nine-Tails..... Minato saved him
 

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If we were going by legend status Hiruzen would be buddies with Rikudo while Hashirama ventures off into neverland

OH PLEASE HASHIRAMA ISTHE MOST OVER RATED GUY IN THE SERIES THEY CALL HIM GOD WHILE THEY CALL HIRUZEN A FREAKING PROFESSER LOOLOL AND HIRUZEN WHOPPED HASHI'S ASS ALONG WITH HIS BROTHER AND WHATS WORSE IS HE'S 69 THEY ARE ZOMBIES THT CANT DIE WITH LIMIT LESS CHACKRA AND THEY TOUGHT HIM BUT STILL CANT BEAT HIM LMAO!:yay:=D
 

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What do we know about Hashiramas death? How do you know he died young?

Stated by who? They where in full power with limitless chackra and got out classed and sealed away by a 69 year old Hiruzen.

I'm really starting to think most of you judge the out comes of these battles on appearance and "legend status"
He was brought back the first time young, the databook says he died in war. Why do you think he died old, Tobirama wouldn't have been the Hokage so soon if that was the case.

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Tobirama mentions that this time him and Hashirama were revived at near full power. Meaning as opposed to last time, they were not near full power.

Tell me what makes Hiruzen so strong and how he can beat Edo Madara and Hashirama. I would LOVE to hear it
 

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Let me think Prime 3rd Hokage he is a joke when he fought the Nine-Tails..... Minato saved him

Yet he whipped the floor with two of his teachers bought back in young form at the age of 70. Do you remember which fight we are talking about?
 

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I refuse to feed you troll.
You obviously don't understand the manga or better yet choose not to understand them.
The kages power has been retconned.
Stop sticking in the past.
 

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People need to understand that other characters>their favorite characters, in Hiruzen's case it's a possiblity, and I believe that KingHashirama person said that EDO Hashirama>SO6P and that EDO Hashirama>EDO Madara, which is Hashirama with Sharingan and Rinnegan....
 
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Let me think Prime 3rd hokage is a joke he didnt stand a chance against the Nine Tails Minato saved him. Nice try though Madara overkills him
 

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Its a shame all the irrational threads get the most attention
 
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