Kishi contradicts himself AGAIN!

[blazekev90]

It being a genjutsu would explain Orochimaru's 5 in genjutsu databook. Nonetheless, shouldn't Izanami have cancelled out once Itachi was put under sound genjutsu??? Both sasuke and Itachi were caught, yet used another genjutsu on top of Izanami again.

 

[Winter Savior]

Kishi breaks his rules all the time, he isn't a good writer.

But I do hate the remarks ppl say, that it's his story he can do whatever...

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

since when kabuto seal is considered as a genjutsu ?
you shame the name of the great gin-san

 

[kellzfresh]

I thought when itachi puts you in izanami, you are trapped in the loop alone but standing still in the real world and at the mercy of itachi?
This seems confusing. Is edo tensei a genjutsu or just controlling pple with the kunai seal?

 

[Tazzilla88]

Itachi used two genjutsus on Kabuto at once (Izanami and The Sharingan Genjutsu)
And Itachi was under the effects of KA, which wasn't canceled out by the sound genjutsu but the sound genjutsu was canceled out by Sasuke's Tsukuyomi

 

[These Eyes Are Special]

Itachi shippuden

LOL...nice

 

[ShishaMastah420]

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You quote the wrong shit.. mister troll...

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Itachi can layer multiple Jutsu.

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The Genjutsu, KA, is way stronger than the jutsu Kabuto used for Edo Tensei to control Itachi, which is why Itachi was able to cancel Kabuto's jutsu.

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Itachi used a Generic Genjutsu to get Kabuto to tell him the seal, Kabuto already under the effects of Izanami, did not require a more powerful technique to reveal the Seal to undo Edo Tensei.

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Read again and gain some sense...

Also re-reading your OP, Kishi never stated in the Manga, that "Two genjutsu can't overlap each other."

 

[The Eye]

kishi is an uchiha fan boy. His favorite character is itachi btw. Plot no jutsu saved him. and need i say izanami was pulled out of his ass to save itachi

 

[Dark Artist]

welcome to Itachi shippuden

hate this overhyped overrated homo

 

[ShishaMastah420]

I honestly don't see why its so hard to understand that one of the Greatest Genjutsu users is capable of layering multiple Genjutsu... Specially when he has the Sharingan...

 

[Solo]

Narutopedia bro. "Itachi proceeds to cast another genjutsu to force Kabuto to reveal the hand seals needed to cancel Impure World Reincarnation and then had him execute the release."

1st Narutopedia isn't always right. Almost anyone can edit it.

2nd Kabuto overwrites their mind(The Edo Tensei) with seals not Genjutsu.

3rd Kotoamatsukami cancelled out the effect of the mind control seal placed in Itachi's head.

 

[Never]

1st Narutopedia isn't always right. Almost anyone can edit it.

2nd Kabuto overwrites their mind(The Edo Tensei) with seals not Genjutsu.

3rd Kotoamatsukami cancelled out the effect of the mind control seal placed in Itachi's head.

agreed, almost anyone can update/ edit it...

good points +rep

 

[Sakata Gintoki]

since when kabuto seal is considered as a genjutsu ?
you shame the name of the great gin-san

Low blow sir troll. May I add:

Are You Serious?

 

[Invsblphntm]

Lets get this straight:

Kabuto's control over people is a Genjutsu.

The way KA stopped it was the conflicting Genjutsu.

Itachi explains exactly how he was going to stop Edo Tensei:

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He says he is going to use Tsukuyomi, A GENJUTSU.

He puts him in Izanami, A GENJUTSU.

THEY ARE INDEED CONFLICTING AND KISHI BREAKS HIS OWN RULES JUST TO MAKE ITACHI SEEM OP. Just rename it to Itachi Shippuden why don't you...?

 

[Anorien16]

First of all Kabuto's Edo control is not an genjutsu, they use a talisman called fuda to control the Edo. So when Itachi was put in KA, he was put under 'Protect Konoha' command, and as Itachi himself wanted to protect Konoha there probably was no hindrance to his control.

Also When Itachi put Kabuto in another genjutsu to release , he probably exit Izanami and is currently under the new genjutsu (Seems like Tsukiomy) not Izanami. He might have broken Izanami by placing his hand on his head (Genjutsu does not need physical contact but breaking genjutsu does), just before using Tsukiomy.

 

[Sakata Gintoki]

lets get this straight:

Kabuto's control over people is a genjutsu.

The way ka stopped it was the conflicting genjutsu.

Itachi explains exactly how he was going to stop edo tensei:

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he says he is going to use tsukuyomi, a genjutsu.

He puts him in izanami, a genjutsu.

They are indeed conflicting and kishi breaks his own rules just to make itachi seem op. Just rename it to itachi shippuden why don't you...?

thank you +rep sir!

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Low blow sir troll. May I add:

Are You Serious?

then tell me where it state that kabuto use genjutsu to control the edo tensei
or else it doesn't happen.

 

[Hyperion]

This might've been a time ago, but the only reason Edo Itachi is still alive is because "Two genjutsu can't overlap each other." He was under the effects of Kabuto's will and Kotoamatsukami. In which case, both cancelled each other out and he was henceforth free, so that Kishi could keep up his streak of no one being able to defeat him a.k.a. Naruto breaking his foot off. So, why did it happen to Kabuto? He was under the effects of Izanami, which Itachi says is a genjutsu, yet, straight from Narutopedia,

"Outside Kabuto's mind, after his glasses were removed, Itachi proceeds to cast another genjutsu to force Kabuto to reveal the hand seals needed to cancel Impure World Reincarnation and then had him execute the release."

They should have both either canceled each other out, and Kabuto was from there free just like Itachi, or Itachi would have to cancel Izanami, and due to Kabuto's threat perception, be able to counter Itachi's next genjutsu.

Make no mistake, Kishi breaks the rules so Itachi doesn't get defeated by ANYONE!

Am I the only person that doesn't see any contradiction here?

Since when was Edo Tensei a Genjutsu?

 

[Jonesy161]

This might've been a time ago, but the only reason Edo Itachi is still alive is because "Two genjutsu can't overlap each other." He was under the effects of Kabuto's will and Kotoamatsukami. In which case, both cancelled each other out and he was henceforth free, so that Kishi could keep up his streak of no one being able to defeat him a.k.a. Naruto breaking his foot off. So, why did it happen to Kabuto? He was under the effects of Izanami, which Itachi says is a genjutsu, yet, straight from Narutopedia,

"Outside Kabuto's mind, after his glasses were removed, Itachi proceeds to cast another genjutsu to force Kabuto to reveal the hand seals needed to cancel Impure World Reincarnation and then had him execute the release."

They should have both either canceled each other out, and Kabuto was from there free just like Itachi, or Itachi would have to cancel Izanami, and due to Kabuto's threat perception, be able to counter Itachi's next genjutsu.

Make no mistake, Kishi breaks the rules so Itachi doesn't get defeated by ANYONE!

It's not 2 jutsus as in if you are using 1 and you use a second, they both get nullified or you stop the 1st. What Itachi meant is there can't be 2 commands. Kabuto was forcing the Edo summons to kill alliance members which consisted of Leaf Ninjas. Komoamatsukami gave the command to protect Leaf Members at all cost. Since those 2 commands are complete opposites of each other and Komoamatukami being the most powerful genjutsu, it just ended up that neither commands won. They both lost to each other and canceled out, leaving Itachi with his own free will.

Izanami on the other hand trapped Kabuto in a loop. The genjutsu afterwards wasn't a command that was gonna affect that loop, thus, both genjutsus were capable of being used.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Lets get this straight:

Kabuto's control over people is a Genjutsu.

The way KA stopped it was the conflicting Genjutsu.

Itachi explains exactly how he was going to stop Edo Tensei:

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He says he is going to use Tsukuyomi, A GENJUTSU.

He puts him in Izanami, A GENJUTSU.

THEY ARE INDEED CONFLICTING AND KISHI BREAKS HIS OWN RULES JUST TO MAKE ITACHI SEEM OP. Just rename it to Itachi Shippuden why don't you...?

Le bolded; was his previous plan before he used Izanami...either way, I don't believe Tsukuyomi or the Generic Genjutsu casted by the Sharigan -- which is what is used on Kabuto to get him to reveal the Seal to undo Edo Tensei -- are stronger than Izanami, so there is no way they would cancel out or be affected...Also note that Izanami is a completely different type of Jutsu that largely depends on the castee

For example; To cancel out, there has to be two of the same types of Jutsu, like Kabuto had control over Itachi's will and KA gives the caster control over the castee's will...