KIsame loses to guy either way because...
1. Kisames speed doesnt match up to guys
2. Kisames sword will have no chakra to feed of since guy doesnt use chakra
3. Kisames shark mode with water dome wont work cause guy opening the gates stops the water from touching him jus like it did when he was under water when he beat the kisame clone. That so the water will only make kisame faster when he's in the water, once guy gets close(which since he's not under water it wont be hard) the water will evaporate an kisame loses his only edge.
4. I believe kisames sword can only heal if it has the chakra to(which it cant absorb from guy but i may be wrong)
5. All in all i think kisame's style after using that sword for so long is so based on absorbing his oppenents chakra. That when he's finally faced with an oppenent that wont work on it will throw him off. Besides it's not like kisames base wise is stronger than guy, maybe but that not a fact an guy's a very powerful opponent.
Gai is just a bad match up for Kisame either way. Give it up.
i dont rem about samehada having a hole while fighting bee.
kisame was perfectly fine after the afternoon tiger... even without samehada by his side. Gai suffered more drawbacks
I see your point and I agree with you to a certain extent. Although if Kisame where to go up against a ninjutsu user he could absord all of their attacks as they are all chakra based attacks.
Taijutsu users don't utilise chakra like ninjutsu users so in order for Kisame to drain their chakra, he has actually touch the user with samehada. Even then it hasn't shown to drain chakra as fast when in contact with someone than if the chakra is already outside the body.
Also Neji is actually pretty fast with a 4.5 in speed in the databooks while tsunade has a 3.5 in speed, so he would still have a considerable advantage. Just pointing that out.
+rep for the great observations
Why do people keep sayin that kisames weakness is taijutsu? This is not true.
Kisame weilds samehada like nothing and it probably weighs 300-400 pounds meaning hes super strong and it reduces his actual speed. Gai actually stated that he has superhuman strength and its only his clone.
Kisame easily went toe to toe with killerbee in taijutsu mode and he countered every attack and even dodged the raiton bullet pencil while attacking the giant racoon and others as well. While Sasuke got raped by Bee's taijutsu with his sharingan on.
Gai's tiger afternoon was a surprise to kisame since he thought it was chakra based and so he wasnt really prepared to defend in a proper manner. And he doesnt have samehada which he also uses as his shield. If samehada tanked hachibi v2 form then you already know.
And so with Kisame fighting a taijutsu user like Gai or raikage it doesnt matter if he cant absorb chakra. he doesnt need to since hes already super strong and faster than you think. and use samehada as shield and he has huge jutsus to counter it and he also regenerates.
Gai is not Kisames weakness. It's the same as everyone else. If gai's strongest move hit anyone, they're also fukd. Kisame actually survived his strongest move and he still has more str left than gai. Remember there are only few ninjas that has a lot of stamina; kisame, raikages, naruto, 1st. So if the likes of Kakashi gets hit by Gai goin all out ... he's actually more fukd than Kisame.
kakashi vs kisame
if kakashi touch samehada just eveeennn once since kisame uses it as a shield not just offense and the handle also expands like hidans. then it's all over for kakashi. dont tell me kakashi has more chakra than a 6 tailed beast.
Not so true look at Tsunade, Sakura, Neji, Hinata they expel chakra to create force sameda will absorb that sh*t
Why do people keep sayin that kisames weakness is taijutsu? This is not true.
Kisame weilds samehada like nothing and it probably weighs 300-400 pounds meaning hes super strong and it reduces his actual speed. Gai actually stated that he has superhuman strength and its only his clone.
Kisame easily went toe to toe with killerbee in taijutsu mode and he countered every attack and even dodged the raiton bullet pencil while attacking the giant racoon and others as well. While Sasuke got raped by Bee's taijutsu with his sharingan on.
Gai's tiger afternoon was a surprise to kisame since he thought it was chakra based and so he wasnt really prepared to defend in a proper manner. And he doesnt have samehada which he also uses as his shield. If samehada tanked hachibi v2 form then you already know.
And so with Kisame fighting a taijutsu user like Gai or raikage it doesnt matter if he cant absorb chakra. he doesnt need to since hes already super strong and faster than you think. and use samehada as shield and he has huge jutsus to counter it and he also regenerates.
Gai is not Kisames weakness. It's the same as everyone else. If gai's strongest move hit anyone, they're also fukd. Kisame actually survived his strongest move and he still has more str left than gai. Remember there are only few ninjas that has a lot of stamina; kisame, raikages, naruto, 1st. So if the likes of Kakashi gets hit by Gai goin all out ... he's actually more fukd than Kisame.
kakashi vs kisame
if kakashi touch samehada just eveeennn once since kisame uses it as a shield not just offense and the handle also expands like hidans. then it's all over for kakashi. dont tell me kakashi has more chakra than a 6 tailed beast.
Chakra based taijutsu would be hindered if samehada is close to the strike. Also Tsunade has more raw strength than Sakura who uses her chakra control for power. Neji's taijutsu would be hard pressed to do damage.
Why do people keep sayin that kisames weakness is taijutsu? This is not true.
Kisame weilds samehada like nothing and it probably weighs 300-400 pounds meaning hes super strong and it reduces his actual speed. Gai actually stated that he has superhuman strength and its only his clone.
Kisame easily went toe to toe with killerbee in taijutsu mode and he countered every attack and even dodged the raiton bullet pencil while attacking the giant racoon and others as well. While Sasuke got raped by Bee's taijutsu with his sharingan on.
Gai's tiger afternoon was a surprise to kisame since he thought it was chakra based and so he wasnt really prepared to defend in a proper manner. And he doesnt have samehada which he also uses as his shield. If samehada tanked hachibi v2 form then you already know.
And so with Kisame fighting a taijutsu user like Gai or raikage it doesnt matter if he cant absorb chakra. he doesnt need to since hes already super strong and faster than you think. and use samehada as shield and he has huge jutsus to counter it and he also regenerates.
Gai is not Kisames weakness. It's the same as everyone else. If gai's strongest move hit anyone, they're also fukd. Kisame actually survived his strongest move and he still has more str left than gai. Remember there are only few ninjas that has a lot of stamina; kisame, raikages, naruto, 1st. So if the likes of Kakashi gets hit by Gai goin all out ... he's actually more fukd than Kisame.
kakashi vs kisame
if kakashi touch samehada just eveeennn once since kisame uses it as a shield not just offense and the handle also expands like hidans. then it's all over for kakashi. dont tell me kakashi has more chakra than a 6 tailed beast.
Kisame is teamed up with an Uchiha, I don't think he'll fall for a Sharingan User that quickly.