you dont need to supply kisame chakra for him to fight. he already has bijuu level chakra. the absorbtion is just a bonus.
rock lee lost to gaara and he never uses taijutsu. what more to kisame. who doesnt just rely on ninjutsu. hes got super strength as well. and a lot of stamina. even if samehada doesnt suck chakra itd still be a deadly weapon.
But Rock has gotten better, and Kisame is good, but against an experienced taijutsu user with good speed, he has a huge glaring weakness, especially if he doesn't have samehada healing him, becuz bee did kill him with that lariat, if bee would've been skilled enough to not have to use the bijuu cloak, he could've got Kisame and he HAD to switch to using ninjutsu, that's what made him so deadly, and why I consider taijutsu to be a major weakness
Kisame's weakness is overpowering him. It isnt speed, taigutsu, or genjutsu!
Its been obv its simply overpowering him.
Example, Bee used V2 lariat to overpower him and samahadra. It worked.. But then he grab sama and healed then merged. If bee would of grabed the sword it could of been over for sama and kisame. Plus bee wasnt fighting at full.
If A wouldn't have shown up to help out Bee I think Bee would've had a really tough time against Kisame. Not saying everytime but in that particular situation Bee would've lost. And also what if Bee grabbed Samehada? It would most probably suck the shit out of his and/or go back to Kisame.
Edit: Some info.
Hoshigaki Kisame
Databook Ninjutsu Taijutsu Genjutsu Intelligence Strength Speed Stamina Hand seals
Third 4.5 4.5 2.5 3.5 5 4 5 3.5
As you can see his weak/low points are genjutsu/ intelligence+Hand seals. He's incredible strong, has a huge (TB-Like) Chakra reserve, is rather quick, and is great at ninjutsu and taijutsu.
*Even without Samehada, Kisame has been shown to absorb chakra while he is in a water source.*
Kisame's weakness is overpowering him. It isnt speed, taigutsu, or genjutsu!
Its been obv its simply overpowering him.
Example, Bee used V2 lariat to overpower him and samahadra. It worked.. But then he grab sama and healed then merged. If bee would of grabed the sword it could of been over for sama and kisame. Plus bee wasnt fighting at full.
it doesnt matter if bee was fighting at full. kisame is the best bijuu hunter besides pain. kisame soloed the 4 tails without a sweat. or idk what tails is it.
Kisame's weakness isnt taijutsu and infact gains an advantage over majority of taijutsu users, only if he wields samahada. With that sword, he has advantage against majority of taijutsu users. He can attack and defend himself with the sword, but also any contact with the sword and his opponents chakra can be drained. If a skilled taijutsu user was to take his weapon away from him and wield it by them self, it attacks then goes back to its rightful owner. ALso note that due to his immense strength he further gains an advantage.
With samahada he didnt do to bad in a close range fight against asuma or killbee, both who arent too bad at taijutsu either. Anyway the reason why kisame weakness is speed and not taijutsu itself has been repeated several times in the manga and this is how;
Gai;
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A and B. Wasnt even able to finish his jutsu;
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Km naruto;
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Anyway all taijutsu users have to be fast, but what im saying is that its not necessarily taijutsu that is his weakness but speed and you noted tsunade youself. He would beat people like tsunade, neji who are taijutsu users but dont have the speed to trouble him
kisame went toe to toe with killer bee using his taijutsu and dodged raiton bullet pencil. and sasuke couldnt keep up with bee wth sharingan on. i just said this
Kisame's weakness isnt taijutsu and infact gains an advantage over majority of taijutsu users, only if he wields samahada. With that sword, he has advantage against majority of taijutsu users. He can attack and defend himself with the sword, but also any contact with the sword and his opponents chakra can be drained. If a skilled taijutsu user was to take his weapon away from him and wield it by them self, it attacks then goes back to its rightful owner. ALso note that due to his immense strength he further gains an advantage.
With samahada he didnt do to bad in a close range fight against asuma or killbee, both who arent too bad at taijutsu either. Anyway the reason why kisame weakness is speed and not taijutsu itself has been repeated several times in the manga and this is how;
Gai;
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A and B. Wasnt even able to finish his jutsu;
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Km naruto;
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Anyway all taijutsu users have to be fast, but what im saying is that its not necessarily taijutsu that is his weakness but speed and you noted tsunade youself. He would beat people like tsunade, neji who are taijutsu users but dont have the speed to trouble him
Fail post is fail.
Tsunade would snap samehada in half - just as she shattered susano's ribs (edo-madara's susano).
Gai is too fast to get hit by samehada (And the fight occured and gai won).. so shut it.
Neji has byakugan... he can see the chakra flow... he wouldn't be stupid enough to let his own chakra get absorbed when he can see his enemy coming CLEARLY.
Kisame's weakness isnt taijutsu and infact gains an advantage over majority of taijutsu users, only if he wields samahada. With that sword, he has advantage against majority of taijutsu users. He can attack and defend himself with the sword, but also any contact with the sword and his opponents chakra can be drained. If a skilled taijutsu user was to take his weapon away from him and wield it by them self, it attacks then goes back to its rightful owner. ALso note that due to his immense strength he further gains an advantage.
With samahada he didnt do to bad in a close range fight against asuma or killbee, both who arent too bad at taijutsu either. Anyway the reason why kisame weakness is speed and not taijutsu itself has been repeated several times in the manga and this is how;
Gai;
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A and B. Wasnt even able to finish his jutsu;
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Km naruto;
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Anyway all taijutsu users have to be fast, but what im saying is that its not necessarily taijutsu that is his weakness but speed and you noted tsunade youself. He would beat people like tsunade, neji who are taijutsu users but dont have the speed to trouble him
1st pic: thats not kisame. thats a diff body with 30% of his chakra.
2nd pic: thats white zetsu clone. and we all know how weak that mofo is.
3rd pic: hes inside samehada therefore it;s not him moving. and kisame was in his weakest state in there ... he was skinny as fuk. in order to fit inside samehada.
Kisame's weakness isnt taijutsu and infact gains an advantage over majority of taijutsu users, only if he wields samahada. With that sword, he has advantage against majority of taijutsu users. He can attack and defend himself with the sword, but also any contact with the sword and his opponents chakra can be drained. If a skilled taijutsu user was to take his weapon away from him and wield it by themselves, it attacks then goes back to its rightful owner. ALso note that due to his immense strength he further gains an advantage.
With samahada he didnt do to bad in a close range fight against asuma or killbee, both who arent too bad at taijutsu either. Anyway the reason why kisame weakness is speed and not taijutsu itself has been repeated several times in the manga and this is how;
Gai;
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A and B. Wasnt even able to finish his jutsu;
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Km naruto;
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Anyway all taijutsu users have to be fast, but what im saying is that its not necessarily taijutsu that is his weakness but speed and you noted tsunade youself. He would beat people like tsunade, neji who are tsunade users but dont have the speed to trouble him
I see your point and I agree with you to a certain extent. Although if Kisame where to go up against a ninjutsu user he could absord all of their attacks as they are all chakra based attacks.
Taijutsu users don't utilise chakra like ninjutsu users so in order for Kisame to drain their chakra, he has actually touch the user with samehada. Even then it hasn't shown to drain chakra as fast when in contact with someone than if the chakra is already outside the body.
Also Neji is actually pretty fast with a 4.5 in speed in the databooks while tsunade has a 3.5 in speed, so he would still have a considerable advantage. Just pointing that out.
what im talkin about is kisame is quick enough to react and defend himself against killerbees weird style attacks when sasuke with the sharingan could not... get it..... and bee would fuk gai
what im talkin about is kisame is quick enough to react and defend himself against killerbees weird style attacks when sasuke with the sharingan could not... get it..... and bee would fuk gai
Fail post is fail.
Tsunade would snap samehada in half - just as she shattered susano's ribs (edo-madara's susano).
Gai is too fast to get hit by samehada (And the fight occured and gai won).. so shut it.
Neji has byakugan... he can see the chakra flow... he wouldn't be stupid enough to let his own chakra get absorbed when he can see his enemy coming CLEARLY.
1st pic: thats not kisame. thats a diff body with 30% of his chakra.
2nd pic: thats white zetsu clone. and we all know how weak that mofo is.
3rd pic: hes inside samehada therefore it;s not him moving. and kisame was in his weakest state in there ... he was skinny as fuk. in order to fit inside samehada.
I see you point and I agree with you to a certain extent. Although if Kisame where to go up against a ninjutsu user he could absord all of their attacks as they are all chakra based attacks.
Taijutsu users don't utilise chakra like ninjutsu users so in order for Kisame to drain their chakra, he has actually touch the user with samehada. Even then it hasn't shown to drain chakra as fast when in contact with someone than if the chakra is already outside the body.
Also Neji is actually pretty fast with a 4.5 in speed in the databooks while tsunade has a 3.5 in speed, so he would still have a considerable advantage. Just pointing that out.
At the highlighted part. Bee didnt have any chakra shroud and samahada absorbed his chakra within a matter of seconds, so much so that he went down;
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Neji might have a 4.5 for speed in the db, but this hasnt gotten backed by the manga, regardless such speed wouldnt trouble kisame. When i say speed im talking people who are actually noted for their speed and neji isnt one of them, so no i dont believe neji would be able to accomplish some of the feats that, gai, km naruto and A were able to
Why do people keep sayin that kisames weakness is taijutsu? This is not true.
Kisame weilds samehada like nothing and it probably weighs 300-400 pounds meaning hes super strong and it reduces his actual speed. Gai actually stated that he has superhuman strength and its only his clone.
Kisame easily went toe to toe with killerbee in taijutsu mode and he countered every attack and even dodged the raiton bullet pencil while attacking the giant racoon and others as well. While Sasuke got raped by Bee's taijutsu with his sharingan on.
Gai's tiger afternoon was a surprise to kisame since he thought it was chakra based and so he wasnt really prepared to defend in a proper manner. And he doesnt have samehada which he also uses as his shield. If samehada tanked hachibi v2 form then you already know.
And so with Kisame fighting a taijutsu user like Gai or raikage it doesnt matter if he cant absorb chakra. he doesnt need to since hes already super strong and faster than you think. and use samehada as shield and he has huge jutsus to counter it and he also regenerates.
Gai is not Kisames weakness. It's the same as everyone else. If gai's strongest move hit anyone, they're also fukd. Kisame actually survived his strongest move and he still has more str left than gai. Remember there are only few ninjas that has a lot of stamina; kisame, raikages, naruto, 1st. So if the likes of Kakashi gets hit by Gai goin all out ... he's actually more fukd than Kisame.
kakashi vs kisame
if kakashi touch samehada just eveeennn once since kisame uses it as a shield not just offense and the handle also expands like hidans. then it's all over for kakashi. dont tell me kakashi has more chakra than a 6 tailed beast.
So we're just making up weights now for swords? Yes the sword will reduce speed, but it all depends on much it weighs, how much of a hindrance it is. How do you prepare for Afternoon Tiger except avoiding it.
He is weak to taijutsu specialist. InCQC if Tsunade hit him, he's beyond screwed. Against A he would never be able to keep up with A he'd just get hit over and over again.If Neji was engaging in CQC he would be screwed.
It's failure because you assume that speed is the key to winning this.
Let me rip apart your post even more:
You need speed (to a certain extent) and POWER (to a greater extent) to be able to deal some heavy blows to kisame.
Now, as for speed, Tsunade has been shown to instantly move from two spots (as shown in her fight against kabuto).
THAT'S ALL SHE NEEDS to be able to WIN against kisame. Why?
Because her taijutsu is the STRONGEST out of all the shinobi in the naruto world. One of her punches would break samehada, and kisame in half - and I'm willing to bet my kumi that she would win if they had a fight.
So we're just making up weights now for swords? Yes the sword will reduce speed, but it all depends on much it weighs, how much of a hindrance it is. How do you prepare for Afternoon Tiger except avoiding it.
He is weak to taijutsu specialist. InCQC if Tsunade hit him, he's beyond screwed. Against A he would never be able to keep up with A he'd just get hit over and over again.If Neji was engaging in CQC he would be screwed.
It's failure because you assume that speed is the key to winning this.
Let me rip apart your post even more:
You need speed (to a certain extent) and POWER (to a greater extent) to be able to deal some heavy blows to kisame.
Now, as for speed, Tsunade has been shown to instantly move from two spots (as shown in her fight against kabuto).
THAT'S ALL SHE NEEDS to be able to WIN against kisame. Why?
Because her taijutsu is the STRONGEST out of all the shinobi in the naruto world. One of her punches would break samehada, and kisame in half - and I'm willing to bet my kumi that she would win if they had a fight.
At the highlighted part, i read only that and lost interest. Either you cannot read or they is something wrong with you. Never did i say speed is the key to winning. I said kisame's weakness is speedy opponents there is a massive difference
