[VS] Kisame vs Tobirama

[Zexion~]

Nitpicking doesn't disprove my point



Nitpicking doesn't disprove my point. Kisame makes it clear how WD works.

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Yes it is since it touching Tobirama and his chakra. Interesting that you mention Kisame being warpped away. Honestly he can do either or. Warp the Dome away or Kisame away from the Dome.

Suirō Sameodori no Jutsu

A chakra eating dance! A giant prison of water amasses on the ground!

"Suiton Dai Bakusuishouha" covers the environment surrounding the enemy in one body of water, a gigantic water prison is created. The oppoent is shut away underwater, where breath is impossible, except for those who possesses the ninja sword Samehada and the ability to fuse with it to become a half-merman. The prey's movements are supplemented and taken away. Samehada is aligned with ones body, than the opponents chakra and life are shaved away, the person is cornered by suffocation. Kisame's strong point is capturing someone alive with this Jutsu.

With Kisame in the middle, the water prison's movement is connected to his. To slip out of the large prison is not possible, liberated from the ground Kisame's movements become faster.

Data book translation which states (2nd Bold) that he clearly has to be touching the opponent, not to mention it clearly states the water dome is a different jutsu in first bold. (if that scan is even official translation) Kisame clearly means himself sucking out the chakra "water prison shark DANCE" If the dome sucked away the chakra he wouldn't have to do anything at all except center himself appropriately.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Data book translation which states (2nd Bold) that he clearly has to be touching the opponent, not to mention it clearly states the water dome is a different jutsu in first bold. (if that scan is even official translation) Kisame clearly means himself sucking out the chakra "water prison shark DANCE" If the dome sucked away the chakra he wouldn't have to do anything at all except center himself appropriately.

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[Zexion~]

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Hmmmmm?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Hmmmmm?

Its viz the ******* is narutoforums

 

[Zexion~]

Its viz the ******* is narutoforums

Whaaat? Lmfao

Bro regardless Kisame is just .... agh forget the word. Summing up all his actions

DB states that the Water Prison Shark Dance Jutsu is both the WD and fused Kisame combimed so what more do you want...

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Whaaat? Lmfao

Bro regardless Kisame is just .... agh forget the word. Summing up all his actions

DB states that the Water Prison Shark Dance Jutsu is both the WD and fused Kisame combimed so what more do you want...

Whatever your interpretation doesn't debunked that the fact that either he or his water would get warped

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Samehada'll get warped before either come out.

 

[Zexion~]

Whatever your interpretation doesn't debunked that the fact that either he or his water would get warped

*Translation and yes it does? Chakra is not in the WD unless he is lazy enough to simply knead the chakra already coming in through absorption back out into the WD however after the first warping of the dome he would no longer do that Lol

Samehada'll get warped before either come out.

Still unsure if this is plausible...shouldn't of brought it into a VS thread >.> All the hype beasts are going to use this now Lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

*Translation and yes it does? Chakra is not in the WD unless he is lazy enough to simply knead the chakra already coming in through absorption back out into the WD however after the first warping of the dome he would no longer do that Lol




Still unsure if this is plausible...shouldn't of brought it into a VS thread >.> All the hype beasts are going to use this now Lol

If Samehada takes T's chakra, it either has to give it to Kisame or keep it. Samehada hasn't shown the ability to just reject chakra at will. It'll be teleported shortly there after. Not sure what you can't accept in that whole scenario, Issac.

 

[Zexion~]

If Samehada takes T's chakra, it either has to give it to Kisame or keep it. Samehada hasn't shown the ability to just reject chakra at will. It'll be teleported shortly there after. Not sure what you can't accept in that whole scenario, Issac.

Once chakra is absorbed what stops it from becoming said persons chakra? Isn't that what absorption is? Taking something in and making it your own.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Once chakra is absorbed what stops it from becoming said persons chakra? Isn't that what absorption is? Taking something in and making it your own.

But Kisame clearly used Bee's chakra to stabilize/form the WD. That's one of the reasons why the Kumo-nin found 'em.

 

[Zexion~]

But Kisame clearly used Bee's chakra to stabilize/form the WD. That's one of the reasons why the Kumo-nin found 'em.

Lol that is what is making me uncertain, however it could just be he immediately kneaded it instead of fully absorbing it. If he could absorb Hachibi chakra and keep its properties still in tact what stops him from forming a cloak? Lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Lol that is what is making me uncertain, however it could just be he immediately kneaded it instead of fully absorbing it. If he could absorb Hachibi chakra and keep its properties still in tact what stops him from forming a cloak? Lol

Dunno, didn't question nor consider that. Could be attributed to the forceful nature of things, striping down the chakra from Bee instead of it being handed off. The Hachibi hasn't shown that capability to share cloaks, anyhow. The chakra seems the same, for some period of time at the very least.

 

[Zexion~]

Dunno, didn't question nor consider that. Could be attributed to the forceful nature of things, striping down the chakra from Bee instead of it being handed off. The Hachibi hasn't shown that capability to share cloaks, anyhow. The chakra seems the same, for some period of time at the very least.

Either way there are too many variables and what have you to just out right say the chakra remains the opponents. Someone would have to go in-depth analysis of his other battles or something Lol

 

[Brother Numpsay]

*Translation and yes it does? Chakra is not in the WD unless he is lazy enough to simply knead the chakra already coming in through absorption back out into the WD however after the first warping of the dome he would no longer do that Lol

Not even going to bother how wrong you are with you misinterpreting this. You want to argue chakra is not touching Tobirama. Thats fine. Still doesn't change the fact that he can warp anything physically touching him.

 

[Zexion~]

Not even going to bother how wrong you are with you misinterpreting this. You want to argue chakra is not touching Tobirama. Thats fine. Still doesn't change the fact that he can warp anything physically touching him.

Lol so why does the ground not go with them when they FTG?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol so why does the ground not go with them when they FTG?

1.Straw man.
2.Never made a no limit fallacy.
3.And Water Dome doesnt = ground

 

[EliteKakashi]

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Lightshot ftw.

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[Zexion~]

1.Straw man.
2.Never made a no limit fallacy.
3.And Water Dome doesnt = ground

:| Water is a physical substance touching the user? Which you say transports everything it touches?

It doesn't matter he's not FTG'ng the whole WD he can maybe teleport a human sized portion but that's it.

 

[Narutp1sasuke2 LetsGo]

Tobirama curve stomps.