Kisame Vs the 5 Kage (Individually)

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Kisame Vs

Onoki
Gaara
A
Tsunade
Mei

Starting Distance: 40 Meters
Location: 5 Kage Vs Madara
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Call me a fanboy, but I think he defeats them all. A is a tough one though.​
 

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He defeats all of them but Oonki and possibly Ei. However, I have reason to believe he can beat the 4th Raikage.
 

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He defeats all of them but Oonki and possibly Ei. However, I have reason to believe he can beat the 4th Raikage.

How doesn't he defeat Onoki when GSB > Jinton? As well as water clone spam and the ability to go airborne as well. This will most likely be a drawn out battle and Kisame is a stamina king.

yeah sure buddy enjoy it all while your high

Explain to me why I'm high. This is just a dumb comment.

Looses to the men

Explain to me how he looses to Onoki, A, and especially Gaara.
 
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He wins against Mei, possibly against Tsunade. Loses to the rest.
 
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...Smh
None of them....
Maybe, Just maybe Gaara but other than that, it wouldn't make sense he be able to beat the others....
Ay has lightning release 1 & Excels in Taihjutsu - this is a huge hindrance for Kisame, It was said repeatively that kisame is best suitable for capturing ninja predominantly biju because of his stamina and ability to absorb chakra, most of the fight we seen kisame invovled in he has the upperhand.

Mei - I think Lava and boil release is severely underrated...but she has 2 kekkei genkai, and is obviously incredibly skilled at using the water release she and kisame are 50%-50%

Tsunade - lose too kisame? what?

Oonoki - particle style ninjutsu, weighted boulder jutsu...

Gaara vs kisame is a large rock paper scisors match.. both have ninjutsu that cannot be countered by the other...
 

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Kisame Vs

Onoki
Gaara
A
Tsunade
Mei

Starting Distance: 40 Meters
Location: 5 Kage Vs Madara
Restrictions: None
Knowledge: Manga

Call me a fanboy, but I think he defeats them all. A is a tough one though.​

honestly you might be right. Oonoki(flying) really is his biggest threat. He was able to effortlessly take on bee, so ay isn't a problem. low diff
Tsunade has nothing really to hit him with. mid diff
Gaara's going to get overwhelmed with his gourd sand. Since kisame can flood the area, gaara won't be using area sand. low diff
Mei will be a bit challenging considering she's shown superb water jutsu. She may actually have a chance to beat him depending on how good her suiton is - she's the 3rd person in the entire manga to use water jutsu without a water source. high diff
Oonoki can and should keep in the air. If he does, kisame shouldn't be able to hit him at all. Kisame's best bet is to lure him close to the ground and then spring a water dome on him, from there oonoki is done. But, really, oonoki should be him mid diff. if anything, kisame can win high diff.
 

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Gaara can fly.

Kisame can beat Tsunade and Mei. Maybe Onoki if he plays his cards right.

A blitz-kills him though.
...Smh
None of them....
Maybe, Just maybe Gaara but other than that, it wouldn't make sense he be able to beat the others....
Ay has lightning release 1 & Excels in Taihjutsu - this is a huge hindrance for Kisame, It was said repeatively that kisame is best suitable for capturing ninja predominantly biju because of his stamina and ability to absorb chakra, most of the fight we seen kisame invovled in he has the upperhand.

Mei - I think Lava and boil release is severely underrated...but she has 2 kekkei genkai, and is obviously incredibly skilled at using the water release she and kisame are 50%-50%

Tsunade - lose too kisame? what?

Oonoki - particle style ninjutsu, weighted boulder jutsu...

Gaara vs kisame is a large rock paper scisors match.. both have ninjutsu that cannot be countered by the other...
Bee couldn't blitz him and bee is as fast as v2 ay, hence why he's suitable for lariat and ladida. Ay gets his v2 sucked off and destroyed like bee. Taijutsu ain't gonna cut it.

It doesn't matter if gaara can fly. He won't be beating kisame with only gourd sand. Kisame flooded an entire area on 30% chakra. All he needs to do is flood the area and sit under water, all gaara's jutsu are now useless.

Tsunade can't beat him. Katsuya isn't going to be help against water, and she isn't fighting kisame in water. All he needs to do is sit under water and ccreate water clones and sharks. He's going to outlast tsunade considering the fact that he absorbs chakra. For that matter, he does water dome and sucks up all of her chakra while she's using byakugo. She's eventually going to die from chakra loss - even bee was drained.

mei and oonoki are the only problems here tbh...
 

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I'm honestly baffled with some of these comments here. Kisame can't defeat Mei or Tsunade? Incredible.

Kisame defeats Mei, mid-difficulty. Kisame already defeated Roshi, the 4 tails jin, who also possesses lava release with, what it seems, not much difficulty. Her Boil Release is a non-factor in the water dome, which she has no way of avoiding. And her suiton techniques are simply not on the same level as Kisames, GSB counters them all.

Kisame defeats Tsunade, low-mid difficulty. She has no way of even getting close to Kisame. With no way of avoiding or getting out of Water Dome, it cuts of her oxygen supply as well as drains her chakra. She's finished in there.

Kisame defeats Gaara, mid difficulty. With the ability to create an entire lake, it limits Gaara to only be able to use the sand in his guard while Kisame has the field advantage as he does in all his fights. Gaara then has no way of harming Kisame, his sand will be clashing with water the entire fight, making it heavier and harder to control. The only struggle Kisame will have is hitting Gaara, but Kisames stamina is almost limitless and eventually Gaara will get hit.

A and Onoki are his toughest fights.

People forget it only takes a clap of Kisames hands to create an entire lake or water dome, A isn't first activating his lightning armor then blitzing Kisame over 40 meters before Kisame accomplishes this. Not to mention, A's only means of attack are CQC, where Kisame and Samahada will be draining a large portion of his chakra every time he lands a hit, like here when he forced V2 Bee back into his cloak form. Given Kisames healing abilities granted by Samehada, no one hit by A is defeating Kisame. Kisame wins, high-difficulty.

Perhaps i'm underrating Onoki while overrating Kisame, but I see Kisame defeating him as well. Jinton is nothing in the face of GSB. With constant water clone spamming and pressuring old Onoki with numerous amounts of attacks, I don't see Onoki defeating him. Kisame is a chakra beast and easily outlasts him. Kisame, high-difficulty.


Gaara can fly.

So can Kisame.

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IMO he beats:
Mei low-mid diff
Tsunade high-diff
A mid-diff.
About the other two, i think Onoki beats him mid-high diff, he's got more than just Jinton and flying and Gaara wins high-diff. He was able to overpower Gold Dust which not even Shukaku could handle so manipulate sand while its wet shouldn't be a problem; not to mention he already used his sand with Mei's water jutsu in it.
 

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People on nb are underrating Kisame immensely.The main reason why you should debate on NF instead of here.
 

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IMO he beats:
Mei low-mid diff
Tsunade high-diff
A mid-diff.
About the other two, i think Onoki beats him mid-high diff, he's got more than just Jinton and flying and Gaara wins high-diff. He was able to overpower Gold Dust which not even Shukaku could handle so manipulate sand while its wet shouldn't be a problem; not to mention he already used his sand with Mei's water jutsu in it.

Onoki has more then Jinton, yes, but what else other then jinton does he have that can harm Kisame?

Gaara only used an miniscule amount of sand with Meis suiton.


People on nb are underrating Kisame immensely.The main reason why you should debate on NF instead of here.

Precisely, smh.

He is not underrated. He is just not that strong.

And you just proved his point. Since you want to neg rep me because you disagree with my points, counter them then. You're original post stating he can possibly defeat Tsunade says it all for me.
 
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Onoki has more then Jinton, yes, but what else other then jinton does he have that can harm Kisame?

Gaara only used an miniscule amount of sand with Meis suiton.

About Onoki: he has Rock Golems to fend off Kisame and can attack from above with Earth Release: Fist Rock Technique + Earth Release: Super Added-Weight Rock Technique, the latter is unlikely to succed because of his back ~~ but it's just a possibility. Anyway, it's not guaranteed that Onoki gets caught inside Water Dome (Flight) and this: may just one-shot Kisame.
Would the Shukaku be subdued with water? No. Gold is heavier than water oviously. About the Mei-Gaara combo there was actually much more water initially: but then more sand started to appear until Madara was totally covered: . Water isn't Gaara's weakness, he can manipulate it quite well under water. Also, just like Onoki he can fly (using his sand) so he may just not get caught by Water Dome.

I take back what i said before, he beats Tsunade mid-high diff, not high-diff.
 
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About Onoki: he has Rock Golems to fend off Kisame and can attack from above with Earth Release: Fist Rock Technique + Earth Release: Super Added-Weight Rock Technique, the latter is unlikely to succed because of his back ~~ but it's just a possibility. Anyway, it's not guaranteed that Onoki gets caught inside Water Dome (Flight) and this: may just one-shot Kisame.

Onoki needs to touch the ground to form his rock golems. That is a impossible task when the earth and him are separated by Kisames deep lake.
As far as him using Rock Fist technique, that is exactly what Kisame would want him to do. Onoki would only be punching the surface of water in which Kisame could easily counter with water prison. I doubt Onoki would be that stupid in doing so anyways. I already established that GSB absorbs his jinton.

I'm not counting on Kisame capturing Onoki in water dome, he doesn't need to, and it's not very likely to happen.

Would the Shukaku be subdued with water? No. Gold is heavier than water oviously. About the Mei-Gaara combo there was actually much more water initially: but then more sand started to appear until Madara was totally covered: . Water isn't Gaara's weakness, he can manipulate it quite well under water. Also, just like Onoki he can fly (using his sand) so he may just not get caught by Water Dome.

I take back what i said before, he beats Tsunade mid-high diff, not high-diff.

Well considering that Kisame said himself that nobody in the akatsuki is better then capturing people then himself and the goal of the akatsuki was to capture all the biju, as well as him capturing the 4 tails with not much difficulty, I bet he could subdue the Shukaku with water.

Did you notice the miniscule amount of sand he used? That's nothing compared to the amount he is normally able to control. Also, his sand is manipulated by chakra, Kisame, as well as Samahada, eat chakra. How does sand even harm Kisame when his and Samehadas chakra absorption ability will disrupt Gaaras sand control when the sand comes in contact with them?
 

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Tsunade - High chakra reserves used solely to augment Taijutsu and heal wounds she may aquire in battle. Samehada hits her once if she goes all out (with Yin Seal: Release), and it's done for because her body automatically sends chakra to the wound where Samehada eats it up. Both of them are proficient in close-combat, but when Kisame get's enough chakra, Tsunade becomes an old granny who can barely move anymore. Considering she has no ranged attacks except ground-destruction techniques (which Kisame can counter with water), she's screwed.

A - Kisame can take him the same way he took out Bee. If A is determined to kill Kisame, without regard to his own life, A would electify the water dome when Kisame goes Shark-Mode, killing the both of them (assuming Kisame can't absorb that lightning before he gets electicuted). If A wants to take care of his own life before killing Kisame, he's screwed.

Gaara - Gaara's sand isn't nessicarily weak to water, however, it will be slowed down by great amounts of water, just like human movement is. It's only truly weak to 2nd Mizukage's Oily Water. However, if Kisame gets serious and uses Shark-Mode against Gaara, he'll be in the Water Dome. Gaara's sand will be slowed, and Kisame will be able to move incredably fast, hit Gaara once, steal his chakra, and Gaara will drown. Gaara is an ex-jinchuriki, and Kisame was an expert in taking Jinchuriki alive, which is harder than taking them dead.

Mei - Steam style essentially renders a great deal of Suiton useless. But then again, Samehada absorbs chakra from anything by touching it. This is a difficult battle, and unlike the other's, I don't think Kisame has the option to go Shark-Mode (because Mei can evaporate all of the water, or even use it to her advantage). Using Lava release when Kisame sends water towards her creates stone walls for defense from further water techniques, and overall she's a tough opponent for Kisame. This is a hard one... However, as I see it, this fight will come down to who can hold out the longest with chakra reserves, which is something Kisame can do better than Mei (unless there's proof otherwise).

Oonoki - Dust Release is the hardest part of this fight, so I'll leave it for last. Kisame can counter the flight by creating a lakes-worth of water and then creating large collums to stand on, raising himself higher and higher into the sky; if Oonoki spends all of his time running, it'll eventually end bad for him (though he'd be able to solely run for a while). After that, all we have is Oonoki's Jinton versus Kisame's skill. He has three very useful chakra-absorbing, but only one which could be of use here, IMO: Great Shark Bomb (in case you're wondering, Samehada, the general Chakra Absorbtion technique which he can use without Samehada, and GSB). Sending this massive shark outwards, which Kisame was confident enough to be able to absorb the chakra from Gai's "most powerful technique", should be able to eat up the chakra from Jinton; even if it gets destroyed while eating up the chakra, Kisame could use that oppertunity to attack as his hands and chakra reserves are free, while Oonoki's are busy until the technique is made useless. Ultimately, if Kisame has a chance here, it's high difficulty. But he also has great enough intellegence to be able to come up with a plan to get around Jinton (assuming the Shark Bomb isn't enough).

Really, Oonoki and Mei are his two toughest opponents.
 

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He is indeed strong and people are indeed underrating him, people think he barely beats Mei and Tsunade smh.

he'd have a harder time against mei than ay and gaara imo :|... especially ay.
 
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