Kisame VS Prime Sasuke and *WHY KISAME WINS*

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(facepalm) so if you were a water user and i'm a lightning user and you have a string of water leading to me i use chidori stream you would die -_- plus sasuke can absorb lightning and if he creates a field of lightning around him and kisame attack he would die depending on how many volts he send out, & amaterasu owns.

look man the water and lightning thing is debatable, but u seem to think amaterasu has some type of penetrating ability and it doesnt kisame could use any water tech to block it although it won't be put out and it still will be burning it won't hit kisame
 
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kirin is a tech that requires thunder clouds by heating up the atmosphere sasuke was able to do that when he fought itachi he did this when he shot those fire techs in the air, kisame would put those techs out, and like yamato told naruto when naruto was making the rasenshuriken he explain the chakra affinities and the strengths and weaknesses to their counterparts although yamato said that no tech that is of the same level can beat out its stronger counterpart element as when he was explaining to naruto how sasuke's fire tech is strong against wind

Then explain to me what sasuke was about to do here :)
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kirin is a tech that requires thunder clouds by heating up the atmosphere sasuke was able to do that when he fought itachi he did this when he shot those fire techs in the air, kisame would put those techs out, and like yamato told naruto when naruto was making the rasenshuriken he explain the chakra affinities and the strengths and weaknesses to their counterparts although yamato said that no tech that is of the same level can beat out its stronger counterpart element as when he was explaining to naruto how sasuke's fire tech is strong against wind
Wait you again.. Hurhur so you're telling me... the field where Sasuke and Kisame are fighting has no clouds what so ever.. Cute story there bro.. Tell another one.. Anyways if we are going how the world works and how Sasuke's Tech works.. Kirin doesn't need a rape cloud like he did for Itachi.. He can just use a baby cloud and string it down o3o .b okay hur hur
 
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look man the water and lightning thing is debatable, but u seem to think amaterasu has some type of penetrating ability and it doesnt kisame could use any water tech to block it although it won't be put out and it still will be burning it won't hit kisame

fail, fail, & fail. amaterasu owns.
 

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Depending on whether Kisame has samehada genjutsu could be out the window as well. Samehada feeds on kisame's chakra which would disrupt it - thus cancelling genjutsu.


if you can prove that losing chakra disrupts the chakra balance then i will accept this as a counter argument.
 

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sasuke will win by these option
Genjutsu since Kisame is not a tailbeast host
Amaterasu since it cannot by extinquish
Lightning release since it stronger than kisame water nature.Kirin will take down kisame giant shark release jutsu
Sasuke's genjutsu is weak.Samehada can disrupt kisame's chakra to break him free and kirin requires a lot of prep time and heat.It's pointless trying to use fire techs cuz kisame is apparently the best water user.Sasuke can only use lightning techs but if kisame has samehada it'll simply absorb chidori.
Finally susanoo and amaterasu might be useful against kisame but if he gets that water dome thing done,sasuke is dead meat.
 
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Sasuke's genjutsu is weak.Samehada can disrupt kisame's chakra to break him free and kirin requires a lot of prep time and heat.It's pointless trying to use fire techs cuz kisame is apparently the best water user.Sasuke can only use lightning techs but if kisame has samehada it'll simply absord chidori.This will be a hard fight but based on stamina,experience and chakra levels i'll go with kisame.
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now i don't wanna hear no time prep or w/e. :3
water = fire
and he doesn't have that shark skin so fail & fail.
 

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well it doesnt matter because kisame can absorb chakra without samehada
Wait what.. So you are telling me O_O Kisame.. From Dbz.. Cause maybe you must be thinking of Android Kisame from Dbz.. Idk.. Absorbing Chakra ... Seems like a far fetched idea.. Stop using imagination bro.. K thanks
 

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Wait you again.. Hurhur so you're telling me... the field where Sasuke and Kisame are fighting has no clouds what so ever.. Cute story there bro.. Tell another one.. Anyways if we are going how the world works and how Sasuke's Tech works.. Kirin doesn't need a rape cloud like he did for Itachi.. He can just use a baby cloud and string it down o3o .b okay hur hur

u make it seem like he can use kirin any time he wants and he cant like i said he has to heat up the clouds thats why he shot those fire techs into the clouds to make the clouds into thunder clouds, he would have to do the same as he did against itachi, whether he uses a smaller cloud or not he still will have to heat the cloud up with a fire tech...and i would think that if he uses a smaller cloud then kirin would be smaller and weaker...and i didnt say the field had no clouds where they would be fighting and it might be cute story to u but its a true story already explain by sasuke and understood by itachi so whether u believe or not idc
 

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Samehada absorbs Amaterasu. It's a yum yum for it. If Kisame gets hit with Amaterasu he just sweeps it away with Samehada :)
There's absolutely no way Sasuke can win this fight (unless he has his Taka team with him, lol). Kisame is a chakra beast, Sasuke has poor charka pool. That's it.
 

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Wait what.. So you are telling me O_O Kisame.. From Dbz.. Cause maybe you must be thinking of Android Kisame from Dbz.. Idk.. Absorbing Chakra ... Seems like a far fetched idea.. Stop using imagination bro.. K thanks

chapter 506 pg 6.... Aoba Yamashiro discovered it when he used his Secret Technique Stone Needles in an attempt to paralyse Kisame, who instead just sucked the chakra through the threads and exhausted him.

get your facts together and u should really should pay more attention...i just gave u proof through the manga(chapter 506 pg.6) and wiki and if u stilldnt believe i will find the episode
 
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First of all, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and Blaze Release are what Sasuke has to take down Kisame.

I don't understand why Kirin can be used though. It clearly requires preparation to execute it. Fire Release: Great Dragon Technique is needed to create thunder clouds for Sasuke to create Kirin. The Fire technique needed for Kirin is something that Kisame can counter with water release.
 

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Samehada absorbs Amaterasu. It's a yum yum for it. If Kisame gets hit with Amaterasu he just sweeps it away with Samehada :)
There's absolutely no way Sasuke can win this fight (unless he has his Taka team with him, lol). Kisame is a chakra beast, Sasuke has poor charka pool. That's it.
LMFAO another one of you people.. you guys are coming out of the wood works today aren't yah ? Anyway.. Sammy chan doesn't like fire specially black fire that can't be absorbed or even put out.. So nom nom nom sammy = fried fish and Kissy = fried shark :3 So staph please..
 
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Samehada absorbs Amaterasu. It's a yum yum for it. If Kisame gets hit with Amaterasu he just sweeps it away with Samehada :)
There's absolutely no way Sasuke can win this fight (unless he has his Taka team with him, lol). Kisame is a chakra beast, Sasuke has poor charka pool. That's it.

Try scrolling back & look at all the comments then say this ridiculous result.
 

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(facepalm) so if you were a water user and i'm a lightning user and you have a string of water leading to me i use chidori stream you would die -_- plus sasuke can absorb lightning and if he creates a field of lightning around him and kisame attack he would die depending on how many volts he send out, & amaterasu owns.

If we want to get all technical then water itself isnt a very good conductor, at least with "normal" voltages. Anything will conduct electricity if the potential difference is high enough. What does conduct electricity are SOLUTIONS, solutions which contain ions, which come from substances that dissolve in the water and dissociate into ions. So pure water not a good conductor water with stuff dissolved in it, good conductor.

Since this is a manga we can't tell it suiton is 'pure' water, so really the debate can't be solved. On the other hand it really comes down to which technique is stronger. This fits well with Narutoverse since this is the basic rule which applies to techniques that don't have a direct elemental relationship (such as water and lightning elements).

At the end of the day it come down to what is stronger and what techniques are used. If Kisame uses water dome jutsu then Sasuke would have to discharge a sh!t load of raiton chakra since water doesn't conduct it very well. Don't forget that Killer Bee is also a raiton user but he didn't use lightning in the dome.

On the other hand most of Kisame's techniques such as shark bullet don't actually physically connect to Kisame so a direct stream between sasuke and kisame is impossible anyway.
 
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First of all, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and Blaze Release are what Sasuke has to take down Kisame.

I don't understand why Kirin can be used though. It clearly requires preparation to execute it. Fire Release: Great Dragon Technique is needed to create thunder clouds for Sasuke to create Kirin. The Fire technique needed for Kirin is something that Kisame can counter with water release.

oh i'm sorry no it doesn't

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killer bee is faster so sasuke would do better or equal his swordsmen skills.
water dome is useless because of lightning.
so those are the only thing & they still fail hard because sasuke can fly.

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-Sasuke's swordmenship is nothing compared to kisames. as a legendary swords men of the mist he has more experience wielding swords when it comes to technique. sasuke is faster but thats not gonna save him in a swordfight with kisame for very long... sasuke's chakra would only get absorbed if tries to fight with swords and will be his downfall. Water dome does not become useless if sasuke is in it...if he is then lightning actually becomes useless because he will hurt himself if he uses a raiton jutsu. BUT: Sasuke can fly like you said, but he would already have to be in the air before the waterdome jutsu is casted. so yes I admit he does have a counter for the water dome.
 
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