Kisame VS Orochimaru and Kimimaro

[AGoodBoy]

Didn't an Edo Hanzo summon his salamander..? I don't believe Edos are able to draw blood.

But anyways, I don't see how any of Orochimaru's snake summons will pose as a problem for Kisame. As snakes tend to swallow their prey whole, which was also confirmed to be the case in the manga as well [

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] They then depend upon their digestive system to break down their food [

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] So even if Kisame were to be swallowed by Manda, Manda II, Aoda, or any other boss snake summon; it would only put Kisame in a better position to rid them from this battle. Given his monstrosity, Kisame can very well break out of the snake by the very same means as Naruto did in the scan I have already provided. Instead of Kage Bunshins, Kisame can utilize his

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to bust out of the snake as Naruto did

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. And if that's not enough, Kisame can implement his shark summons to start devouring the snakes from the inside. All in all, Kisame is triumphing in this match-up with high difficulty.

I'm just wondering if you realised that you equated a snake the size of naruto to that of manda. Manda, in retrospect, which makes naruto look like a pea.

I'm not sure how kisame's snake summons are going to eat manda out from the inside when:
1) They're Swimming in Battery acid
2) They're swimming in diluted battery acid (if kisame has made a water source)

 

[Zexion~]

Wasn't manda 2 just a modified version of Manda ...

 

[Prince Charles]

I'm just wondering if you realised that you equated a snake the size of naruto to that of manda. Manda, in retrospect, which makes naruto look like a pea.

I'm not sure how kisame's snake summons are going to eat manda out from the inside when:
1) They're Swimming in Battery acid
2) They're swimming in diluted battery acid (if kisame has made a water source)

Just wondering how did you come to the conclusion that their swimming in battery acid ? Im on your side btw.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Just wondering how did you come to the conclusion that their swimming in battery acid ? Im on your side btw.

Stomach acid is essentially battery acid.

In the sense that it's strong acid that slowly dissolves food, that's how snakes dissolve massive prey. I'm not sure, if like humans, Snakes stomach acid is on the level of battery acid, but it should be really low - Ph 2-4 at best. But i'd need to google to confirm.

EDIT: Quick google actually says it's stronger than humans, but i didn't dig deep.

Q.Whats the ph of a snakes stomach acid and is it stronger that humans?
A.Snake stomach acid pH can to drop to 1.5 after eating, while human gastric acid has a pH of 2 to 3. Snake stomach acid is stronger and stays for longer.

EDIT 2: My years of knowledge is failing me. Gastric acid is 10x weaker than batter acid at Ph2. Battery acid is about Ph1. Anyway, seeing as snake acid can reach around 1.5, it's just a few degrees weaker than battery acid. How embarrasing

 

[Zexion~]

Didn't i just win this debate ...as Kisame >: ( Against a skilled debater .. come on

Also Manda did not tank C0 he barely got caught in the blast and he got ****ed up lml

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Those larger snakes do not have the durability as Manda. We've seen those larger snakes damaged by simple offensives, unlike Manda. While i wouldn't advise Manda to swallow a fully healthy Kisame, a weakened Kisame isn't breaking through its skin. Snakes swallow thier prey alive (sometimes) sharks would vanish due the pressure of its digestive system (As shown against Naurto)

I understand that those lesser snakes aren't comparable to Manda.. But at the same time, neither is Naruto's Kage Bunshin in comparison to an entire lake. A weakened Kisame really doesn't make a difference, Kisame at 30% is more then capable of all this. The Suiton: Bakusui Shōha would without a doubt expand Mandas body from the inside.. creating room for the sharks. In any case, it's doubtful that Manda would even be able to hold such a large mass of water within him; resulting in him having to open his mouth and release it all, which'll give Kisame the opportunity to swim out.

I'm just wondering if you realised that you equated a snake the size of naruto to that of manda. Manda, in retrospect, which makes naruto look like a pea.

I'm not sure how kisame's snake summons are going to eat manda out from the inside when:
1) They're Swimming in Battery acid
2) They're swimming in diluted battery acid (if kisame has made a water source)

I compared a snake the size of Naruto to that of Manda? I'm fairly positive that snake was several times larger then Naruto. It really makes no difference because a part one Naruto is no comparison to Kisame either. If the shark summons aren't capable of functioning within the highly diluted acid, then Kisames other shark suiton variants can do the job.

 

[Nattana]

That's unlikely since the body holding kusanagi was sealed into sasuke, then sealed into totsuka. I actually think current oro no longer has kusanagi.

Wrong. Parts of his soul remained in cursed seals and a part of his body survived the sealing (3 little snakes escaped the Totsuka sword piercing, 2 of them got killed later by Amaterasu, but 1 still survived).
Oro still has his Kusanagi sword.

 

[AGoodBoy]

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Only 1 snake survived totsuka

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It later died to amaterasu

None of oro survived that battle. His kusanagi is most likely with him in totsuka. His soul remained in the cursed seal along with his will, but kusanagi is not part of his soul, nor his will. It's just an item.

 

[Nattana]

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Only 1 snake survived totsuka

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It later died to amaterasu

None of oro survived that battle. His kusanagi is most likely with him in totsuka. His soul remained in the cursed seal along with his will, but kusanagi is not part of his soul, nor his will. It's just an item.

Sorry but I can't see the third one die. What is more, both Kusanagi and Totsuka are ethereal weapons, so a human body is not needed for it to exist as long as the users chakra is still there.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sorry but I can't see the third one die. What is more, both Kusanagi and Totsuka are ethereal weapons, so a human body is not needed for it to exist as long as the users chakra is still there.

um there was no third. It was one snake all the time. Hence why only 1 snake went under the rock to hide, and only 1 snake

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How would kusanagi exist when it's sealed inside a pot? How would it even exist with orochimaru for that matter?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Orochimaru solos.

 

[Nattana]

um there was no third. It was one snake all the time. Hence why only 1 snake went under the rock to hide, and only 1 snake

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How would kusanagi exist when it's sealed inside a pot? How would it even exist with orochimaru for that matter?

Lol, look at the 2nd pic you posted (with Sasuke kneeling)... There are 3 snakes escaping...

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I mean 2nd pic in your previous post.

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Kusanagi would exist the same way Itachi's Totsuka existed when ONLY HIS SOUL was brought back from the pure world and he fought as Edo.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lol, look at the 2nd pic you posted (with Sasuke kneeling)... There are 3 snakes escaping...

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I mean 2nd pic in your previous post.

I've seen it. But based on the fact that not only did we see nothing from those 2 snakes after, and only 1 snake did anything afterwards, i'm led to believe kishi was simply showing how that one snake fell to the floor.

 

[odise6]

orochimaru is on par with Jiraiya, and kisame has feared, and sannin jiraiya, kisame has no sealing techniques to kill orochimaru, orochimaru with commands is very fast snake escapes from kisame, orochimaru also has genjutsu paralysis, and is skilled on stamps

 

[Nattana]

I've seen it. But based on the fact that not only did we see nothing from those 2 snakes after, and only 1 snake did anything afterwards, i'm led to believe kishi was simply showing how that one snake fell to the floor.

Kishi spent like 5 or 6 panels showing little snakes escaping. I don't think these panels were just there to fill some space. He showed 3 snakes, 2 of which died. One survived. It really suggests that Oro survived not only with his soul but also with a little part of his body.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Kishi spent like 5 or 6 panels showing little snakes escaping. I don't think these panels were just there to fill some space. ,He showed 3 snakes 2 of which died. One survived. It really suggests that Oro survived not only with his soul but also with a little part of his body.

2 snakes never died.... That's the whole point. one went under a rock. One came out. One died from amaterasu. He used one panel of what seemed to be 3 snakes, so it makes sense it was 1 all along.

-Amaterasu caught on a

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-That leaf flew away and hit and ignited a tree
-Which ended up igniting the

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in that previous scan.
Center right is the snake catching on fire and writhing in pain. The center left is the snake collapsing and dying.
-Then, center right, we see this one snake

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with residual amterasu burning on the little ash left.

Therefore, we can assume it was one snake all along seeing as those other two were never hinted at post that one panel. They weren't even shown slithering anywhere.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Restricting Oro's most powerful jutsu. That's just like restricting Sasuke of his Sharingan.

Without edo's, Kisame takes this high diff. I can't see how Oro and Mimi can counter the WD.

 

[Kaede]

Kisame can win this.

 

[Nattana]

2 snakes never died.... That's the whole point. one went under a rock. One came out. One died from amaterasu. He used one panel of what seemed to be 3 snakes, so it makes sense it was 1 all along.

-Amaterasu caught on a

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-That leaf flew away and hit and ignited a tree
-Which ended up igniting the

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in that previous scan.
Center right is the snake catching on fire and writhing in pain. The center left is the snake collapsing and dying.
-Then, center right, we see this one snake

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with residual amterasu burning on the little ash left.

Therefore, we can assume it was one snake all along seeing as those other two were never hinted at post that one panel. They weren't even shown slithering anywhere.

Okay, I'm not gonna argue with you because the case of Oro's BODY surviving the sealing or not is questionable.
But even if the body was sealed completely it doesn't mean Oro got his Kusanagi taken away from him. I explained it in my previous post.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Okay, I'm not gonna argue with you because the case of Oro's BODY surviving the sealing or not is questionable.
But even if the body was sealed completely it doesn't mean Oro got his Kusanagi taken away from him. I explained it in my previous post.

@bold, Yes i read that. I'm 50-50. What your said is plausible, and i understand where you were coming from but i just don't see how he would have still had the sword when his entire body(Which possesed the sword) was now in a pot. If he still has it, then hell, that's fantastic!