Sasuke's silhouette being visible doesn't mean he wasn't intangible.
Dude that's exactly what it means, jinton has a collision as demonstrated by
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, meaning if intangibility is active then sasuke would be overlapping the jinton, which isn't possible if his silhouette is there.
But that wasn't my point anyways, point is that we only see one person in the jinton, therefore obito had to have appeared behind sasuke after that scan took place since he was literally the only person there at the time. I was addressing the fact that you said we don't know if he teleported/phased after jinton activated, which he did.
And it definitely doesn't indicate that Sasuke's sillhouette was inside the cube for jinton's entire duration.
Where did I imply this? Sasuke being there but obito not being there proves that obito saved sasuke after that panel, that was the point.
Sensors have been shown to not pick up things in the heat of the moment, and if Karin can't sense Obito warping in and out of a jinton cube why do you think she'd be able to sense Obito's hand becoming tangible just for a moment in order to touch Sasuke?
1. Karin was in the heat of battle, yet she was still primarily focusing on sasuke's chakra, she focused on danzo when she wanted to find his location but as shown
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when sasuke is in a tough situation karin is
still keeping tabs on his chakra. She's infatuated w/ him, why would she lose focus on the main reason why she's even fighting when she was keeping up just fine before?
2. Karin is an extremely perceptive sensor, she was able to
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before a SA hit danzo. She also managed to
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&
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the moment it did. Someone w/ that kind of perceptions wouldn't miss another form of chakra appearing right behind the person she's focusing on, sounds too farfetched unless said chakra was simply too fast for her to sense.
3. Obito has never in the history of NV made only parts of his body intangible, he's only ever maintained a chakra connection while intangible. [hand turns into chakra
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, if
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is what you were referring to when you brought this up]. If what you said was true then obito wouldn't have
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when kakashi/gai came even though his hand was touching him, or when he
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.
That's Obito warping himself away. A lot faster than Obito warping himself into a jinton cube, then warping both Sasuke and himself out of there.
Ok, well I was just giving you feats demonstrating that his warp is fast. He forced minato to use FTG when his footspeed is leagues ahead of his & that was a delayed one. Minato himself commented how their fight would be a battle of speed, don't think he'd say that if the attack obito was using on him was slow.
What do you mean with the bold?
Kamui's speed isn't fixed, it can be slower or faster depending on the user but it obviously has a full speed. So you can't say that because we've never seen obito warp that fast it means he can't, it's a fallacy. I'm not saying that kamui is faster than every jutsu bar FTG, I'm saying that you can't use absence of evidence to try & disprove it being able to move that fast.
That was Fuu actively kneading chakra and focusing on locating Obito. Karin's
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after barely avoiding rocks crashing down on her head.
This is false.
1. As I showed above, karin was actively focusing on sasuke even during battle, & she's also able to notice small discrepancies.
2. Karin is literally staring at sasuke as jinton is "vaporizing" him. Also notice above her head, you see that same diamond symbol that only appears when someone notices something. [
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] She was focusing on sasuke at that moment, you can clearly see it.
Sensors can overlook things in the heat of the moment if distracted (
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)(
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Look above, no diamond, means he didn't notice.
Again I don't understand how Karin can't sense Obito literally warping his whole body inside a cube, then warping himself and Sasuke away...but she'd be able to sense Obito just materializing a hand in order to touch Sasuke?
Covered this above.
That scan you showed me doesn't necessarily constitute as proof Naruto wouldn't have been able to sense a kamui warp. It just shows Kakashi noticed it first.
It proves that he can at least warp in before he could notice, sensory abilities aren't impaired & obito's head was already out, meaning nothing was stopping naruto from sensing him. Kakashi saw him because of his precog, other people were
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yet only he spoke up.
And that's also just a scan of Obito warping above Naruto. Not warping above Naruto, completely materializing, and warping away again.
I know, but it just reinforces the fact that what I said is true.
Onoki was swinging the jinton around very fast indicated by the panel time.
Never said it wasn't. Doesn't prove it's faster than obito warping though.
