Kisame vs Minato

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Concession accepted.

There is no need for this. Concession has already been achieved.
Distance is 35 meters, Kisame will be underwater by then and I don't see why Minato would use V2 FTG right off the bat and not just engage in CQC with shunshin.

Also no guarantee he's going for the decapitation here and not a rasengan or any other pointless attack that Kisame tanks. Due to Minato having no intel on Kisame he's not going to bother marking him either so from there he spawns up the WD.
I'm inclined to believe this battle is out of character. As everyone is implying things would go a certain way without factoring things IC. The way VS threads should be is out of character regardless, especially when nothing of mindset is specified.

You subtlety imply in the underlined that if Minato used V2 he'd be able to hit Kisame. Concession accepted.
 

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So you agree Minato performed SM instantly. The underlined segment implies you do.
That's a fabrication of my statement and you're engaging in a straw man argument.

Minato's explicit statement of his inability to activate Sage Mode was never an inconsistency because it's not inconsistent to what's conveyed in the manga while the opposite applies to Minato activating Sage Mode without a meditative stance because that's contradictory to what was depicted previously in the manga.

Minato's efficiency in kneading Sage Mode was never inconsistent at all as opposed to the lack of meditative stance because that's a blatant inconsistency.
 
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That's a fabrication of my statement and you're engaging in a straw man argument.

Minato's explicit statement of his inability to activate Sage Mode was never an inconsistency because it's not inconsistent to what's shown in the manga while the opposite applies to Minato activating Sage Mode without a meditative stance because that's contradictory to what was depicted previously in the manga.
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I never said Minato's explanation as to why he doesn't use Sage Mode was an inconsistency. What I said was an inconsistency was the same thing you're stating repeatedly: Minato gathering Natural Energy without entering a meditative state.
 

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1. I dont have anything to prove to you, I can turn your rep bar red in seconds if I wanted to.

2. I did not in no way shape or form 'talk mad shit' about you as I dont even know you and again you are not that relevant to talk mad shit about.

3. But I do hate how much of a cocky prick you are so I will debate you.

I am going to use Jiraiya.
 
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1. I dont have anything to prove to you, I can turn your rep bar red in seconds if I wanted to.

2. I did not in no way shape or form 'talk mad shit' about you as I dont even know you and again you are not that relevant to talk mad shit about.

3. But I do hate how much of a cocky prick you are so I will debate you.

I am going to use Jiraiya.
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Turn my rep bar red, still won't save you from taking a big ass L as we like to say on NF.

Danzo - No Kotoamatsukami
Jiraiya - No frog song & frog kata.

Both parties can only use one summoning; Danzo - Baku | Jiraiya - any of the toads.

This match-up is heavily in Jiraiya's favor. Which is why I suggest Tsunade.
 
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