[VS] Kisame Vs Killer Bee

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Why wouldn't Kisame notice the Hachibi firing off a TBB...? It has been shown many times in the manga that ninja can feel chakra being charged up [

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I'll get back to the TBB further down my post

Because bee can fire them off extremely quickly, you posted a scan of naruto molding his chakra, if bee is already in bijuu mode then it takes no more than a few seconds to mold the chakra for a tbb.

Ahh, okay, I suppose I can see that happening.. Not sure if Bee would opt in doing so without knowledge on technique as he likes to just use his body to block attacks.

Okay fair enough but I'm sort of basing thins off the cqc encounter they had. [

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] I know bee was told that his chakra was getting absorbed but judging by his reaction there he would've most likely figured it out before the battle went to the next level.

If he does then I see this being a viable option, if he doesnt figure it out then I would agree that he wouldnt opt for such a strategy.

Takes no time at all for Kisame to regurgitate lake worth of water out of his mouth [

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tbb? I don't think so.

I always look at it like this if two techniques are adequately fast, kisame has to go through a two step process [regurgitate water, then cast GSB] while bee just has to go through the one step [cast the tbb]. In this situation bee would be victorious because he only has to do one thing where kisame has more setup, he will be caught off guard before he gets the chance to finalize his attack.

This is all assuming bee goes bijuu mode to clear up some space first, & in that case the whirlwind would've already blown any initial water away.

Not necessarily, Kisame can travel quite fast underground (As fast as he can swim) if Bee doesn't KO him right away, his chances of hitting Kisame underground dwindle rapidly as Bee would have no idea how deep he'd be or what direction he will be moving in. So blindly firing off rounds of TBB's will only deplete Bee's chakra faster; which is ultimately Kisames goal. Also, it's worth mentioning, Kisames extreme durability, pain resistancy, and healing capabilities. The only way I see Bee killing Kisame with a TBB is with a direct hit... not from taking damage from an indirect hit from the blast radius underground.

If kisame is gone then bee can revert back to V2 mode & keep awareness of his surroundings. Assuming the whirlwind has already gone off, a clearing large enough for bee to notice kisame will be created. & well this scenario just depends on reaction time, if you think kisame can attack bee from underground before he notices then it could be possible however I tend to believe otherwise.

Multi tbbs can possibly be used for taking care of kisame, & if he gets hit he'll be taking major damage, he might not die but he isnt lasting long after such a blast.

Keep in mind the explosions shown was from a total of 9 TBB's from both the Hachibi and Kyuubi. Bee said

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that the single TBB from your first scan was a full powered attack, so I'm still under the impression that the Multi-TBB splits the power of a single one.

But you can see the radius of most of the tbbs that exploded, they arent completely combined into one. If you compare the juubi laser to the explosions & then to gyuki & kurama then you'll see that the multi tbbs are approximately the same size as the one that hit gyuki.

They're similar in explosion size, the "full-powered" tbb may be slightly stronger but they both produce a similar radius without a doubt [at least in my honest opinion].

 

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Because bee can fire them off extremely quickly, you posted a scan of naruto molding his chakra, if bee is already in bijuu mode then it takes no more than a few seconds to mold the chakra for a tbb.

Right, I'm not disputing how fast Bee can fire off a TBB... Simply, how wouldn't Kisame not notice his only opponent, whom is that large, fire a TBB? He has been sent on a mission to retrieve the Kyubi, he solo'd the four tails Jin, he was sent to retrieve the Hachibi and even acknowledged him to be the second strongest Biju... I think Kisame has extensive knowledge and experience with combating/capturing Biju. Kisame should be aware and alerted that all this much chakra is being compressed and fired at him.

Okay fair enough but I'm sort of basing thins off the cqc encounter they had. [

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] I know bee was told that his chakra was getting absorbed but judging by his reaction there he would've most likely figured it out before the battle went to the next level.

If he does then I see this being a viable option, if he doesnt figure it out then I would agree that he wouldnt opt for such a strategy.

So what does Bee's understanding that Samehada absorbs chakra have to do with GSB..? I mean he may or may not use this tactic, but even if he does avoid the GSB in this scenario, it doesn't really put a major hamper on Kisames chances of coming out victorious.

As fast as It takes for killerbee to use his

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tbb? I don't think so.

I always look at it like this if two techniques are adequately fast, kisame has to go through a two step process [regurgitate water, then cast GSB] while bee just has to go through the one step [cast the tbb]. In this situation bee would be victorious because he only has to do one thing where kisame has more setup, he will be caught off guard before he gets the chance to finalize his attack.

This is all assuming bee goes bijuu mode to clear up some space first, & in that case the whirlwind would've already blown any initial water away.

I'm assuming you're under the impression that Kisame has to first supply the water source then use to the GSB. What I was implying, is that Kisame can use this technique in one fell swoop. Much like: [

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And as I mentioned before, Bee using whirlwind will undoubtedly blow Kisame quite a considerable distance away, which gives him more time to fire off the GSB.

If kisame is gone then bee can revert back to V2 mode & keep awareness of his surroundings. Assuming the whirlwind has already gone off, a clearing large enough for bee to notice kisame will be created. & well this scenario just depends on reaction time, if you think kisame can attack bee from underground before he notices then it could be possible however I tend to believe otherwise.

Multi tbbs can possibly be used for taking care of kisame, & if he gets hit he'll be taking major damage, he might not die but he isnt lasting long after such a blast.

If Bee stays in his full Biju transformation, I can see Kisame surfacing under/behind Bee and successfully landing a hit with the GSB or shaving off chakra with Samehada/fusion mode. If Bee reverts back to V2 like in your scenario (Probably more likely so he can have a much easier time locating Kisame) then yes, I can see Bee reacting and avoiding Kisame's ambush. However, just reacting/avoiding Kisame and Samehada from making contact isn't good enough. A simple swing, regardless if it makes contact or not, will result in Bee's V2 chakra being stripped away from him. Which ultimately nears Bee to complete chakra depletion. He would then need to go back to full transformation state and restart the process all over again, because it was canonically shown that neither chakra cloak and V2 is enough to defeat Kisame.

Yes, if he gets hit directly... I'm saying that wouldn't happen if he were to escape underground successfully before the TBB's hit; Kisame should be able to withstand the damage from a not so precise and weakened blast and heal from it.

But you can see the radius of most of the tbbs that exploded, they arent completely combined into one. If you compare the juubi laser to the explosions & then to gyuki & kurama then you'll see that the multi tbbs are approximately the same size as the one that hit gyuki.

They're similar in explosion size, the "full-powered" tbb may be slightly stronger but they both produce a similar radius without a doubt [at least in my honest opinion].

That is still essentially 6 different blasts from a total of 9 TBB's; 5 of which is from the Kyubi, who'd I assume would produce stronger TBB's then the Hachibi... And I'm not even sure if a blast radius is a direct indication to how strong the blast really is.